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Echoing smear emails, Halperin falsely suggested video shows Obama during "pledge of allegiance"

In an October 14 entryon his Time.com website, The Page, Timemagazine's editor-at-large Mark Halperin falsely suggested that aphotograph of Sen. Barack Obama in an anti-Obama television ad shows Obama withouthis hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance. Halperin wrote thatthe ad, by the Our Country Deserves Better PAC, "hammers the Democraticpresidential nominee with the kitchen sink and more: pledge of allegiancepicture, Cuban flags, Palestinians, Hamas, and -- of course -- Reverend[Jeremiah] Wright." In fact, the ad --which itself makes misleadingclaims -- doesnot show Obama during the "pledge of allegiance." A photo from the event, footage of which was included in thead, appeared in Timewith a caption indicating it was taken during the national anthem, not thePledge of Allegiance.
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Posted by DAWUSS

You all might need some of this during tonight's debate:

http://www.monnik-dranken.nl/downloads/flessen/jagermeister.jpg

Have one for each piece of misinformation coming out of each candidate tonight.

Posted by thomp.steve9098 in reply to DAWUSS

http://www.drudgereport.com/flashotp.htm

At least this email from the Obama campaign informs how the msm, particulary the hacks at msnbc, will be covering the debate. Sounds exactly like Countdown.

Posted by Craig in reply to thomp.steve9098

Has McCain put out his ad saying he won tonight's debate yet?

Posted by djasper2761 in reply to Craig

Isn't inshannity going around telling evetybody mickey c. won? I know o'really will say mickey.c. won after the debate.

Posted by shaggles

I actually just heard this weekend that the pledge of allegance is nothing more than a marketing ploy dreamed up by some company to sell more flags.  What a scam.

Posted by wzwriter

It's rather humorous to see and hear all these conservatives getting all bent out of shape over a Pledge that was written by an avowed socialist........

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to wzwriter

Maybe the pledge was 'ghost-written' by Bill Ayers?

Posted by halfaworldaway in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

yes i think there is video of mr ayers and obama reciting it in arabic whlist blowing up abortion surviving babies and sodomising kittens

Posted by pete592 in reply to wzwriter

But it was still "good enough for the founding fathers."

:-D

Posted by worrierking in reply to pete592

She'll fight to keep "under god" in the Pledge but ignores the other lines, like "indivisible".

If she really believed in the whole thing, she would not have promoted the Alaska Independence Party's convention.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to worrierking

"indivisible"

Nice one, King. And completely ignored by the librul media.

Posted by princeofwheels

WAY OFF TOPIC BUT VERY INTERESTING...News Flash Pittsburgh Pa...

Today at 2:05pm, management at KDKA Radio 1020AM, with the blessing of CBS the Parent Company, informed the host, Kevin Miller, that due to the tremendous amount of complaints concerning his childlike and totally biased antics on his show (not his opinions), that KDKA has offered Sen. Obama the three(3) hour show whenever he desires. The host will not be permitted to comment or even talk during the show.

Rigth away, the loyalists called in to his defense stating that this is the beginning of taking away Talk Radio. BUT, management did not censure Miller concerning his opinions, but mainly playing the Jeffersons theme song and other childlike voice overs. I have news for the loyalists, Sen. Obama will disapprove of this so-called Silencing and not even consider taking the microphone...too much class and too high of a road has been travelled. Mr. Miller has many contacts with Fox and CNN so look for him to be in-demand on the Hannity show etc....Mr. Miller has just been given a GOLDEN Parachute because he will be in demand.

Personally, I disagree with managements' decision because it only pours fuel on the fire...P.S. KDKA is very conservative..Can Rove be this smart?  It will make National News..

Posted by jeff79 in reply to princeofwheels

I don't care if it is off-topic. I live and work in the 'Burgh, and I didn't know anything about that. I admit that I don't tune in much to KDKA radio much, or at all. I generally find any local radio DJs' attempts at humor to be lacking, except for the occasional bit from the DVE morning show.

Alas, even if Obama were to accept the invitation, I still probably wouldn't bother to tune in. And people like Miller do not deserve to be treated as martyrs.

Posted by Tobimaro in reply to jeff79

I do not live anywhere near Pittsburgh, but I have listened to KDKA in the past, and I stopped after John McIntyre (hope I spelled his name right) was let go.  In my opinion, he was a true progressive and a class act.  Funny that the big talk-radio stations cannot fathom any progressive talkers

Posted by DorisRussell

They are going to attempt to throw the kitchen sink at Obama the next 3 weeks, the Republicans wheels have come off they are desperate.

Posted by ajzito

I'm not sure how many votes Obama could ever have hoped to get from the kind of individual who gets riled up over flag etiquette.  Any 'undecideds' out there who want to weigh in with their outrage, or lack of it, over Obama standing with his hands folded at his waist during the national anthem? 

(Sometimes my wife has to club me on the shoulder to remind me to even stand up.  I guess I have qualms about adopting prescribed postures while reciting oaths, except when I am praying to God.  When I get the feeling that I am surrounded by 40,000 baseball fans praying to the flag, that definitely turns me off.  Am I the only one who finds all this flag worshipping pagan?)

Posted by nerzog in reply to ajzito

I'm not a Christian, but I had the same thought back when they were getting all frothed up about flag burning.  Doesn't the Bible forbid such idolatry?

Of course, many Conservatives only know about the parts of the Bible that support their own prejudices.

Posted by tommy in reply to nerzog

Nerzog,

"Praying to the flag" is ajzito's term, and it's ridiculous.  Nobody prays to the flag, what people are doing is showing respect, for all the reasons one does so to our flag. 

That being said, this is a non-issue where Obama is concerned, again.  I have no doubt he respects the flag and what it stands for as much as anybody.  More rightwing distractions.

Posted by worrierking

I wish those on the right would get as weepy and defensive about the Constitution as they do about symbols like the flag and jingoistic anthems and pledges.

Posted by wolf kotenberg

Trotting out stuff that didn't work in the past. I think we are at a stage where the american electorate is well informed these pundits exercise their right to express opinions above their job to report news ( the contemporary news ). We still have only one president, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, John McLoosecannon and his barbie doll, Cheney probably making deals with foreign gobvernments that are not in the national interest.

Posted by snoopy

This came off of the GOP sacramento website:

waterboard2.jpg

Nice to see right wing christianity at it's finest...

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to snoopy

I'm not sure I understand "BS" being the difference between the two. Is it saying that they're exactly the same? Is one of them a BSer?

Of course, John McCain says the remarks of Rep. Lewis mentioning Wallace are the worst thing he's ever seen in American politics, so I guess this stuff is just "humor".

Posted by snoopy in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

OT, but what happened to the real solon? Whoever is using his name is no way the real solon.

Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to snoopy

science101 has also disappeared

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to wolf kotenberg

Wolf, I think Science, as impervious as he seemed to be to reality , finally realized he jumped the shark when he proposed that aborted babies should be re-animated to sentence the parents who killed them to prison.If you missed the Zombie-feus justice squad post, you missed a humdinger.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to snoopy

This came off of the GOP sacramento website:

From what I've seen, it would be nearly impossible to find a similar graphic attacking McCain in the same way on any of the Democratic web sites out there.  I've been to quite a few, and have never seen anything like that on ANY web site affiliated with any part of the Democratic Party.

Posted by mrhebert74 in reply to snoopy

As a Sacramentan, I am saddened, but not surprised, to see that our local morons have infiltrated the Sacramento GOP.

Posted by thomp.steve9098

Let's hope the Maverick probes the issues that matter tonight. Heretofore Obama's has completely been given a pass by the msm regarding his unsavory associates.  The only respected journalist to examine the issue, in depth, has been Sean Hannity.

It's now 3 weeks before the election and Obama still hasn't revealed himself.  The question that must be answered tonight is, who is the real Barack Obama?  Thus far Maverick's campaign has been playing it down the middle, but hopefully tonight Maverick will return to his Straight-Talk ways which we all know and love, and address head-on Obama's past.  Let's cross our fingers . . .  

Posted by princeofwheels in reply to thomp.steve9098

Steve, Obama has answered the same questions hundreds of times..LOOK, if you don't believe him or trust him, that is fine..DO NOT VOTE FOR HIM.

As for your post, you must get a kick out of writing your opinions or attempts to draw someone into a conversation...You lost me at "respected journalist"...Seannie the Sissy. And Maverick, now that is funny.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to princeofwheels

Prince, you've gotta cut Hannity some slack, considerinf the difficult job he does. Can you imagine being the conductor of the Stop Radical Obama Express for several hours a day, and then having to completely wipe your mind clean of that, in just a few hours, to give Fair & Baanced analysis on Fox? That's a lot for one man to tackle.

I heard him doing some post-debate analysis after the last one, and Sean said to his co-loaf, as he prepared to comment, "I'm going to take off  my partisan hat now..."

And I thought to myself, for most men, that would leave some hat hair. Not a trace with Hannity.

Posted by princeofwheels in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Once again Colonel, I apologize for saying something that may be considered unkind about Seanni the Sis...I won't say it. Now that I recall, he was also the Engineer for the Stop the Hilary Express. I think his hair stays in place because he wears his Engineer hat over his ears. Maybe he pulls his stop-chain a little too often which wears him out.                                                                            By the way, his 7 year old daughter supports McCain and he never told her to say that. She sounded cute and will probably be the only kid in her class to have a total knowledge of the Weather Underground without prompting from her parents. Wonder what the little darling will be like when she gets older?

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to princeofwheels

Wonder what the little darling will be like when she gets older?

 + 

If you missed the post-debate analysis on Fox, it was hilarious. Hannity and Mitt trying to convince each other that Grampy isn't insane.

Posted by peebs755 in reply to thomp.steve9098

OBAMA HASN"T REVEALED HIMSELF!!! Give me a break. He's done over 20 primary debates. He's written two books. He's been a State and Federal Senator. He's done dozens of interviews on TV, for newspapers, and on line. His background has been poured over witha a fine tooth comb, and the best they can come up with is a tenous connection to Ayers. He's had a website up for the TWO YEARS he's been running. Hasn't revealed himself. Give me a break. The only reason ANYONE has to say that is WILLFUL ignorance.  

Posted by eweston8542983 in reply to thomp.steve9098

First uncross your frontal lobes. Does wonders for the ol blood supply.

I hope you get your wish and he's plenty fiesty,striking down strawmen, 1,2,3, ignoring questions, and just totally dissing his opponent. Its worked so well to this point innit?

Posted by nerzog in reply to thomp.steve9098

Maybe you'll wake up tomorrow and realize that Pigboy LImbaugh is playing you for a sucker.

Let's cross our fingers...

Posted by worrierking in reply to thomp.steve9098

I think the Maverick has seen better days. Even a visit to Earl Schibe's won't make his campaign more atractive to the voters.

Let him go out to pasture. It's time.

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Posted by funnymanpants in reply to thomp.steve9098

thomp.steve wrote:

>>[a bunch of talking points]

I guess you find it amusing to spout a bunch of right-wing talking points and then disappear.

Posted by eweston8542983

The neocon cartel shows signs of imploding. If so to, continue the metifour, which would they end up as, a red drawf, nuetron star, or blackhole?

Posted by nerzog in reply to eweston8542983

Well, they're already A-Holes....