The Department of Justice in 1995 was operated under the CLINTON administration. So the fact that ACORN (with Obama), other liberal groups, and the Clinton administration filed a suit together means ... ???

So the fact that ACORN (with Obama), other liberal groups, and the Clinton administration filed a suit together means ... ??? - Shoes89

It means absolutely NOTHING.

Quit trying to make a mountain out of a ditch.

Yep, nothing to see here, folks. Obama has impeccable character and has never associated himself with shady individuals or organizations...by the way, if you disagree, it's probably because you think black (well, biracial) men are all associated with shady characters and groups..they're all in gangs, right you racist?

I guess I never realized you were a Character Integrity Warrior.  You must have been undercover all this time.

While you're on your rounds patrolling the political neighborhood for possible ethics perps, keep your eyes open for the Keating 5.  There's been actual eye-witness reports that there were some unethical things going on with that gang, as opposed to circumstantial evidence of as-yet unkown conflicts of as-yet unproven interests.

And, by the way, I salute your devotion to protecting the citizenry.

I said nothing about McCain, nor did I claim he was any better than Obama in this dept....but just because McCain has some shady associations as well, doesn't mean Obama's don't exist!

McCain goes beyond shady associations - he's admitted that he acted unethically.  The Obama "associations" are not causal.

While I don't normally play the moral equivalence game, this meme of Obama "shady associations" has been going on for nearly a year, and there hasn't been a single development that would indicate any unethical, unpatriotic, or much less illegal behavior on Obama's part.  In other words, it's B.S. and I'm really tired of Republican sympathizers grasping for straws.

And, by the way, you (in a comment below) mention this:

the issue to me and many others isn't that being associated with Ayers means you are implicitly collaborating with him, but that you have these associations and (I assume) Obama and his campaign and supporters somehow believe he's got the ethical high-ground on McCain.

So don't give me the "I said nothing about McCain" intellectual dishonesty garbage.  Your perception of one candidate possibly having the ethical high ground (which by comparison Obama clearly does) is the only reason you and "many others" care about Obama's tenuous "associations".  You recognize them as fertile character assassination ground, and are doing your best to harvest all you can get from it.

1. Obama clearly doesn't  &

2. I'm not the one saying Obama is the "change" candidate.

Good lord.

So because Obama did educational work with a professor who used to be a terrorist, that means he's not the "change" candidate?  That's supposed to say something about his policies and philosophy of running government?

This is preposterous.  The only reason to avoid associating with him in this context would be if he thought it would hurt him politically.  Obviously he thought educating children was more important.

Dex-

Please explain how the Obama administration would be the same as the Bush administration.  Thanks a bunch!

-Kyle

Dex,

What do you make of all this guilt by association stuff?  If its a big deal, why aren't there mainstream headline stories about the head of McCain's transition team lobbying for Saddam?  What about Liddy?

No better. Still, I don't think G. Gordon Liddy is quite a Bill Ayers in terms of literally being a terrorist and advocating an actual violent revolution in the USA even today, but he's no good guy.

I am not supporting any claims about Obama being the same guy as Bill Ayers...the issue to me and many others isn't that being associated with Ayers means you are implicitly collaborating with him, but that you have these associations and (I assume) Obama and his campaign and supporters somehow believe he's got the ethical high-ground on McCain.

G. Gordon Liddy was employed by the White house to commit felonies. He was also a rogue agent who planned and wanted to implement the assassination of a an investigative reporter.

He is an unrepentant criminal who gave advice on the best way to kill federal agents on his radio show. 

He's twice the scum bag that Ayers is. 

Hi.

Bill Ayers organized a domestic terrorism group that killed people and blew up federal property.

Wrong. The Weather Underground were never to have been found guilty of killing anyone, except themselves. I can't defend what they did, but at least get the facts correct.

Oh, and I say lobbying for a terrible despotic dictator who killed off possibly millions of his own people would be MUCH worse than being casually connected with someone who didn't kill anyone.

Isn't that the current reason why we invaded and are occupying Iraq - that Saddam was some murderous thug with his "rape rooms" and his "gassing" of his own people?

This has to make the Repubs' heads collectively explode.

Hi. Bill Ayers organized a domestic terrorism group that killed people and blew up federal property.

A lie. The only people killed were the bomb makers, and Ayres was never convicted of anything. He has also claimed that he regrets the involvement, but only wishes he had done more to stop the Vietnam War.

Repubs have a difficlut time with truth and facts, don't they? They always have to make things up.

Where's the "lie"?

1. It is 100% true that Ayers was a member - in fact, a 'leader' - of the Weathermen.

2. It is 100% true that they carried out bombings.

3. Ayers may not have been "convicted of anything," but that's only because the Feds had to drop the case because part of the FBI's investigation involved illegal surveillance. Meanwhile, Ayers does not deny any involvement, and he talks openly about what he and his group did.

Finally, your post has two falsehoods:

a. Ayers "regrets his involvement." No, he doesn't. 2004 interview: "I think I was on the side of justice and ultimately it will be seen that way."

b. Ayers "only wishes he had done more to stop the Vietnam War." Wrong, again. From the same interview:

Ayers rejected the notion, advanced in a 2002 documentary about the Weather Underground, that he and his fugitive comrades — including his wife, Bernardine Dohrn — were animated solely by rage over their inability to stop the Vietnam War. "I don't buy that even a little," Ayers said. "I think that we were driven by hope and love and aspiration as much as we were driven by despair."

Bye.

The lie is that the Weathermen killed people.  Any documentation of that other than the bomb makers?

1. Don't the Weathermen count as "people"? If not - why not?

2. Your post had several other claims. Judging by your response, I'm assuming you're acknowledging that those claims were incorrect, eh?

1. This has to be as intellectually dishonest as you can get.  When you say they kiled people, the obvious meaning is that they killed other people.  That's like calling someone who commits suicide a "murderer" because they killed themselves.

2. It wasn't his post.

Shoes what exactly will the Weatherman issue have in regards to our economic problems?

Bill Ayers caused the financial crisis.  We'll just have to torture him until he tells us the secret to fixing it!

Shoes,

1. Bombers who kill themselves are not murders, but have committed suicide.  Someone who attempts to kill himself does not go to jail for attempted murder.

2. It wasn't my post.

"Still, I don't think G. Gordon Liddy is quite a Bill Ayers in terms of literally being a terrorist"

Really? I seem to recall Liddy explaining to his listeners on his little radio show on how to shot dead federal agents and the best place to hit them (the weak spots in their armor)....

So do not dare claim that Liddy is not an advocate of violent acts that can undermine the USA!

Actually he said, "Take head shots because they wear body armor..." or something to that effect.

The Saddam Lobby and Liddy are not in the mainstream because Obama has not brought them up in speeches, debates and advertisements. 

"Obama has impeccable character and has never associated himself with shady individuals or organizations"

And neither has McCain.

Again, what does McCain have to do with whether Obama is, like most politicians, involved in shady organizations and groups?

He's Obama's opponent, and you were attempting to draw contrast until, of course, I called it out.  Then and only then did you mention, "like most politicians."

The only contrast i'm trying to draw is that between the preceived Obama and the actual Obama.

And you're failing. Obama's work with Ayers on education doesn't reflect poorly on his character, and he has repudiated the actions of the Weather Underground. So what is the contrast?

Which is not unlike the contrast between the perceived McCain and the actual McCain (and the McCain from 8 years ago)?

Um Shoes89..... anyone that still believes that Clinton is a liberal needs to haver their head examined! He was not a conservative either... He was a pure politician! So stop trying to project! Also, ACORN was around when Obama was 12 years old. In 1995 he (Obama) was nothing more than one of the many lawyers that helped to create a law here in Illinois that is a great law! I was able to register to vote when I re-did my license.... it works!

Also, lets assume for a moment that 10,000,000 registration forms are submitted by ACORN (they would have no choice but to do this because the law says that they must!)

It is the job of the government (that would be us) to determine whether a registration is legit or not.... not a third party group! Not a corporation! Not a private citizen!

Do yoy really believe that any one of those 10 million 'fake' registrations will be used to vote?  Mickey Mouse? Please!

If anything the only fraud that has taken place was against ACORN! When they paid those that submitted those 'fake' registration forms...... that was FRAUD and since ACORN was subject to the law and has no choice but to hand each one in.... they have done nothing wrong!! If they had tossed them.... then they would have been breaking the law and the rightwing would be faking outrage about that instead!

Dexteritas,

Who said that Obama has an impecable charactor? Everyone everywhere has associated himself in some way with shady people, it is to what level the association is.....  (look at McCain.... he associated himself with a few shady people: Charles Keating, Phil Gramm, G. Gordon Liddy, George Bush, Bill O'Reilly, Rev. Hagee...... need I say more?).

Also, where or what in commonsenseliberal's post got you to say what you said about him being a racist?

How long will it be before your own ability to lie to yourself finally makes your brains short circuit? Ayers, Wright, ACORN,  Resco. No shady characters huh? You can only deflect this stuff as a diversion for so long before it catches up with you.

oh, and before you start your racist crap, I'm bi-racialmyself- half native American.

Did you really not pick up the sarcasm in his post?

MissTroglodyteTalkingPoint,

This is the same lame crap you guys tried on Clinton... sifting through every file and every past association and hyperventilating over the less-than-perfect people that tumbled out.  Well, guess what ... you can't survive a year in American politics without rubbing up against some unsavory characters... just ask Keating-Five-McCain.

I'd be very happy if you could explain to me how I'm a racist, based on my response to your ridiculous post.  Thank you.

The Department of Justice in 1995 was operated under the CLINTON administration. So the fact that ACORN (with Obama), other liberal groups, and the Clinton administration filed a suit together means ... ???

It means that once again, Shoes, you have shown yourself to be an ignorant fool that doesn't have the guts to come back and respond when people respond to the crap you post here.

This is such a non-issue, this is what any media outlet is spending one minute on?  We know the desperation of the McCain campaign, so nothing is unexpected for them, but come on, please! 

So, ACORN is a left wing voter registration outfit who made up names as a way to validate their existence, these people will never vote, and Obama is about as connected to them as Sarah Palin is to polar bears.

Move on media, this is ridiculous.

Well said, Tommy, but there is one difference:  Palin would probably shoot the polar bears :).

And then skin the thing for a nice fur coat, cook the meat for a BBQ, and make overpriced jewelry out of the bones.

Sarah Palin once discovered two orphaned baby polar bears while on her rounds training wolves to sniff out undiscovered oil fields.  Casting aside her personal interests, she spent the entire spring thaw living in their parentally abandoned den, nursing them.  When the thaw was complete, she emerged with her fuzzy white charges and - fending off the occasional vicious male grizzly - taught the infant bears to hunt and fish before leaving them fully prepared for independent life in the wild.

She received runner-up recognition from the Alaskan Dept. of Wildlife for her efforts, barely being edged out by Philipe Cousteau for his development of helmets for baby seals.

One correction:  ACORN did not make up names.  Some of the field workers they hired to register voters did.  ACORN derives absolutely no benefit from those bad registrations and very much prefers not to receive them.

You're right Bill, apologize for the error.

Why isn't McCain being questioned about his ties to ACORN?

He gave the keynote speech at one of their conferences in 2006. He said that "What makes america special, is what's in this room tonight."

http://www.mceades.com/index.blog?entry_id=1343120

Here's a link to his video giving his speech.

And why isn't Palintwit being questioned about her ties to the Alaskan independence Party, which advocates secession?  I think that's a much more disturbing "ASSOCIATION" than Obama's marginal relationship with a broken down old hippie.

It's just vermin like us (that was for Prince) who question Palin's ties to the secessionist Alaska Independence Party. I wish the media would run with that story. But there aren't any scary black people or devious homeless people registering cartoon characters in the story. Just a bunch of idiots in parkas and snow shoes with guns and evil intentions. You know, real 'murricans

As others have pointed out, this ACORN schtick is such a trivial distraction.  Does anybody really believe that somebody is going to show up at the polls and try to vote as Mickey Mouse?  Apparently, ACORN is only guilty of sloppy hiring practices.  The Republicans are dry-humping this fabricated controversy in a lame attempt to paint Obama as some kind of scary Black Militant.

I have to hand it to the Grampy campaign... they've managed to condense every Conservative bogey man into the person of Barack Obama.  If they had exerted such a herculean effort into formulating smart policy positions.... who knows?

Someone at the polls might fall for Terrell Owens or Marion Barber. Heck, someone might even fall for Sean Hannity!

Is that Jell-O on the wall being propped up? Kinda hard to tell from where I'm standing

Don't most polling places require an I.D.?  Is ACORN providing these people with fake I.D.s?

I'm not sure that they do require ID's, but even if they don't, what is more likely: That there is a coordinated conspiracy to get a few thousand extra votes by having people vote under fake names at several different polling places, or that some kid getting paid to register a hundred people to vote skipped out on the hard work and filled out the cards with fake names to just be done with it?

Those fake I.D.'s provided by ACORN would have worked too, excpet that one vigilant poll-worker remembered that she had seen Mickey Mouse walking into ANOTHER polling place while she was driving to work.

So how could Mickey Mouse be attempting to vote at her precinct now?  Turns out that even though he tried to disguise himself by wearing a hat, when he signed in to vote at her precinct, she noticed he had 5 fingers on his hand.

PWNED!!!

The Republicans are dry-humping this fabricated controversy in a lame attempt to paint Obama as some kind of scary Black Militant. - nerzog

I just have one question; why do conservative have such heartburn with voters registering to, you know, vote? I'll wait for your answers...

Try this -conservativs have absolutely no problem with registering to vote LEGALLY. that's the key word that you liberal types seem to have trouble comprehending, be it LEGAL as attached to voting, immigration, taking land deals from convicted criminals or anything that "impunes" another lib.

We're all fine with legality.  People who handed in false registrations should be held accountable.  It's still not voter fraud, and the organization serves a valid purpose, since overall having more people vote is a good thing.

That would explain why conservatives illegally purge tens of thousands of legally registered voters from the voter rolls every year. Or why they can't produce a single case of voter fraud (except for Ann Coulter, who they go out of their way to defend).

"Tens of thousands of eligible voters in at least six swing states have been removed from the rolls or have been blocked from registering in ways that appear to violate federal law, according to a review of state records and Social Security data by The New York Times."

I will assume MissDee has a problem with these tactics?  They appear to violate federal LAW.  Do you UNDERSTAND THAT?  Or do I need to CAPITALIZE words several times in order to make my POINT? 

Taking land deals from convicted criminals?  Is that worse than actually taking money (up to $1 million) from a convicted criminal (Keating)?

LOOK AT THEM THE RIGHT-WING MEDIA, RIGHT-WINGERS AND TV JUMPING ALL ON THIS ACORN STORY. LIKE I SAID WHEN MCCAIN SAY FIRE THE RIGHT-WING MEDIA , RIGHT-WINGERS THANKS THERE IS A FIRE. SAD BUT TRUE. NOW IF THE ACORN STORY DON'T GET MCCAIN UP IN THE POLLS MCCAN, ROVE, RIGHT-WING MEDIA AND RIGHT-WINGERS WILL BE ON SOMETHING ELSE. THATS WHY THEY HOPE THE CON THEY WILL GIVE THE OLDERS AMERICANS TONIGHT WILL HELP FOR THE NEW FIRE ROVE , MCCAIN AND PALIN WHAT TO START. I JUST LOVE WATCHING CNN DOING A SPECIAL REPORT EVERTIME MCCAIN COMES UP WITH ANOTHER LIE ROVE AND HIS CAMP TRY TOO PUT ON OBAMA BUT THEY SAY NOTHING WHEN A STORY THAT LOOKS BAD FOR MCCAIN COME UP.

AND LOOK WHAT STATE THEY ARE TRYING TOO ATTACK ACORN ON!! LIKE THE LATE TIM RUSSET SAID BACK IN 2000 FlORIDA, FLORIDA, FLORIDA ". NOW ROVE KNOWS JUST LIKE IN 2000 WHEN REPUBLICANS STOLE THAT ELECTION THEY CAN DO THE SAME IN OHIO, OHIO, OHIO.  

gee, isn't it funny in the oxymoronic way, that NONE of the erudtie, over educated, self serving elitist snobs on here bother to correct your spelling, grammar, rude use of caps or anything else as they so love to use to never answer a question when it puts them in a corner. "Ask an intelligent question when you don't make a spelling mistake" is their common response. So tell me, which one of the regular denizens on here are you?

Wow.  I guess you haven't noticed when the poster you responded to has been admonished for the all caps thing and in fact was advised unless that was changed, their posts would be ignored.  It's happened more than once and by at least one of the erudtie, over educated, self serving elitist snobs here.

And what is it with the cons and their fear of intelligence? I mean "over educated"?  WTF does that even mean?  I can't imagine another place in the world where education (or over education if you prefer) is considered such a bad thing. 

Maybe it's because Conservative electoral success tends to go down as the education level of the populace goes up.  Sort of like the good old days, when the Christian priesthood didn't want the Bible to be translated into English, since they thought it would threaten their job security.

Actually, if you've paid attention to any of the other threads, many of the 'erudite, over educated, self serving [sic], elitist snobs on here have indeed bothered to correct right-winger's spelling, grammar and rude use of caps.  Pay attention.

So, what intelligent question have you asked?  I've not seen one intelligent question from you, only right-wing talking points based in smear - and some serious projection on your part.

By the way, are you somehow jealous that people who post here are erudite and (over) educated?  Sounds to me like you're at least a wee bit jealous.  You can fix that, you know, by going to school.

One more thing - you're not as "good" as you think you are.  I've seen trash before - and it looks quite a lot like...you.

You misspelled "erudite".

Maybe next time you'll proofread, and then someone will address your concerns...

DOH! That's gonna leave a mark.

Like way too many members of the Mesmerizingly Stupid Media, the folks at Abominable Press and Crap News Network are simply demonstrating their penchant for consistency. They've never seen a bell-filled ball that they won't chase. Good puppies! Gooooooood Puhhhh-peeeez!

gee, you forgot to mention the Main Stream Nut Bag Corporation and their commentators who get chills up their legs when they dive in the tank for Obama. LOL.. Hypocrites.

You forgot to mention all the nutbag "christian" cult gatherings (aka churches) who speak in toungues and fondle little boys at the thought of Palin...

Cant' even stay in the lines when you color can you? The discussion was ACORN and it got diverted (again all your usual desperate attempts to wander away from anything that can incriminate any of your sheep herders) to the media and their partisanship. Somehow, the nanites in your kool-aid have rewired your brain to constantly focus on Christians and Palin, no matter how out of context, ill founded, or irrelevent to the conversation those topics may be. Congrats. In a couple of weeks you might have the petname Locutus bestowed upon you by the Borg Queen Pilosi.

Just attach your name to that thought and for once you'll be 100% right.

This would include Rev Wrights church right snoop?  How about the Jacksons rainbow coilition?  I'm guessing you wouldn't include these "christiian" cults that indoctrinate would you? 

Since you bring it up, sure, we can include them ONLY after y'all give the right wing the same kind of vetting the ones you mentioned already got.

So make up your mind:  Is Obama a secret muslim terrorist, or is he a Christian with a firey former pastor?

I swear, you righties don't even know which talking point to stick with.

Where's the hypocrisy?  At least Maddow and Olbermann (I assume you mean at least these two hosts) make it clear as to whom they support.  I don't see the hypocrisy that you mention above.  Please, clear it up for me.  I beg you.

Sure. you all will throw your perennial garbage supply at Hannity, O'Reilly and anyone purportingto be conservative, even so far as decrying their existance on the air. Once again, you apply your double standards. The point is that you're all becoming more deluded and reprehensible in your thinking every day.

So tell me this- since you all scream that ACORN is so upstanding, noble and altruistic and the blame for the illegal registration lies elsewhere, then why won't your candidate admit to his associations with them in the first place? huh?

he won't because he, as well as you, know that it's a crock of crap being perpetrated on America. Seems to me, the same dualistic thinking, phoney blameshifting, trumped up injuries and all the other blather you spill on here and in the MSM is very reminiscent of what they used to call a "political organ" back central europe about 70 years ago...

yeah, this is Plebicite 2008- dont' kid yourselves and you're all just as culpable as your sheep herders.

And of course, you cleared nothing up.  You stated that those on MSNBC are hypocrites.  You didn't defend your assertion, but intentionally redirected the scope of the conversation.  Let me be clear, madam, Olbermann and Maddow are, indeed, Obama supporters.  At least they don't have to lie about being non-partisan or independent like your boy O'Reilly.  Hannity is an entirely different issue.  Bringing up other "personalities" on another channel doesn't prove your point, nor do your incessant off-topic rants.  Seems to me like you're the hypocrite, what with your rebuke of posts above 'going off-topic'.

I never said ACORN was upstanding, noble or altruistic.  You're putting words into my mouth, so to say.  Stick to what was said, not what your super-power mind-reading abilities tell you.  You'll usually be wrong when it comes trying to read my mind, sister.

The problem with America, madam, lies with people like you.  Yes, people like you.  Those who don't at least look at both sides of an issue before making a rash judgement of others, those like you who are blindly partisan who accuse others of being blindly partisan.  That's projection, MissDee.  See, you can even learn a few new words from us erudite, elitist, over-educated, self-serving snobs.  Being the partisan you are, it wouldn't matter what Obama said in response to his relationship with Ayers.  Even if Obama said, "When I was eight years old, I helped Ayers build a bomb", you would still cry foul, that he's lying, etc.  Nothing Obama can say will put your partisan hacking to bed.  Nothing he could do would satisfy you.  So please, don't insult Obama by voting for him.

And that brings me to your buddy, John McCain.  See, once I had great respect for McCain, and back in 2000, I might have considered voting for him, had he gained the nomination (and that's quite a leap for this lib).  Mr. McCain is what this country doesn't need.  McCain in 2000 is not the same McCain in 2008.  And this is the best the Republican Party could come up with?  I still cannot believe this.  The best the Republican Party could come up with, to counter the Democratic Party's nominee, is an old has-been; a wanna-be hero whose loyalties and judgement come into question, time and time again.

Finally, allow me give my new friend, MissDee, a small piece of advice: please, I beg you, write coherent sentences with coherent thoughts - and a point.  Continuing to write the way you do makes this over-educated, self-serving snob feel elitist.

...their commentators who get chills up their legs when they dive in the tank for Obama.

I think Chris Matthews said that at least 6 months ago, MissDeeFicient.If you have to go back that far to find a "zinger", you're sort of beating yourself.

Not that your self-defeating posts take away from any of the piling-on fun here. You're a pretty irresistible target, even if you do shoot yourself in the foot with every post.

ell-oh-ell !

If you have to go back that far to find a "zinger", you're sort of beating yourself.

Beating herself may be the only way Miss De Boat gets satisfied.......

I like MissDee's posts. She's right at that level where, if she was just a little bit crazier, you'd feel bad for making fun of her. I'd guess she's on government assistance for her "condition", but living on her own without a guardian, maybe even has a job. Good for her.

I also enjoy her posting formula that requires wedging in a 3 or 4 syllable word every line or two, whether it makes any sense or not.

Again, the usual diversion. Oh well, at least you didn't try to deflect the more directed comment comparion this blog and the MSM to a well known propaganda mechanic of the 1930's. No answer? Proud of the truth?  or don't the left wing filters in your ears let that through to what's left of your brain after drinking so much of the kool-aid?

at least you didn't try to deflect the more directed comment comparion this blog and the MSM to a well known propaganda mechanic of the 1930's.

No need for deflection, your dementia desrves a spotlight. I enjoy letting you put the clown shoes on yourself. Besides, I don't know what a "comparion" or a "propaganda mechanic" is. If the latter is a person who repairs propaganda, I hope you find a good one soon.

Luv ya, my nutty valentine.

Once again, in your smug, eltist self grandizing view of yourself, you are ignorant of the whole scope of a word. As in the terms, "Orbital Mechanics", Structural Mechanics", the word mechanic does not refer to a grease mokey who repairs "oribits" or structures. it instead, means a  singular principle from several applied to the field. In this case of reference, I refer to the "principle" used by the extremist press and media of the 1930's in Germany, in which a media is politically coerced into "political correctness" into one sided, presentations, bordering, if not crossing the line into fabrication and lying. Example is the Murtha, Lewis et al crap of applying racism where none exists- intimidating by infernece that if you dont' vote for Obama you are a racist and will be labeled as such. It's an extension of "desperately clinging to guns and religion" said earlier on in this campaign.

Hollyweird in the tank for Obama is reminiscent of the german film industry of the 30's. The New York times of propoganda spewed by the German press.. The internet creates an even wider for the Streichers of the time. And then there's Jesse Jackson, who, either unwittingly or consciously spewed a piece of the truth regarding a secure Israel under Obama. ACORN is the brown shirts of the 21st century, and class warfare will be the norm. .

As far as I'm concerned, Barack, Nancy, and Harry are the Tripartite pact of our times and will be the downfall of America's greatness if Obama is elected, and they are allowed to totally misdirect this country.

So go sing "lalala" with your fingers in your ears and your heads in the sand. If you['re lucky, in the end and you suck up enough, you might be spared if you can bow and scrape better than most.

I love you MissDee. Do you have a newsletter I could subscribe to?

 class warfare will be the norm...

Don't you realize that the last 8 years there has been a systemic war against the lower and middle classes of this country?  Now that the voiceless among us are starting to speak up, you think we're Nazis?  Get a clue.  You're a scared little fool.

What gets me, Foggy, is that I cannot see what she has to fear with an Obama presidency.  Obama, whether MissDee likes it or not, is on her side.  Obama wants everything good for MissDee, even while MissDee spouts her disgusting insults at an honorable, educated man.  I can understand if she doesn't understand, or even like, Obama's proposed policies, but to go as far as she does, it's amazing.  And the way she buys into the right-wing talking points is astounding.  Her blind loyalty to her party and her party's leader would make Joseph Goebbels proud.

Poor MissDee, she probably doesn't even understand that the Nazis were right-wingers...