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After repeatedly calling McCain's behavior "erratic," Matthews suggested Obama's doing so was a reference to McCain's age
Summary: On his NBC-syndicated show, Chris Matthews suggested that when Sen. Barack Obama used the word "erratic" to describe Sen. John McCain or his campaign, he was making a reference to McCain's age. But in recent weeks, Matthews himself has repeatedly described McCain's actions, and those of his campaign, as "erratic."
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Posted by LarryScan
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:20:34 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to LarryScan
Words have connotations, and I think Matthews has a point-- of course those overtones are there, and Obama is well aware of it. Problem is, there's nothing culpable about it-- somebody should make his age a factor. It would be crazy not to-- many American people are already, on their own.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:49:24 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:22:31 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mrhebert74 in reply to magnolialover
"Of course, it has nothing to do with his age."
But even if it did, McCain is freaking old! It's not like Obama would be saying McCain palled around with criminals.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:44:26 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to mrhebert74
But even if it did, McCain is freaking old!
Man how old are you? Are you over 30?? You'll see age differently the older you get.... 72 is not freaking old. Sure it's getting up there but I have Aunts & Uncles & a Mom who are functioning in their 70's just fine thank you. McCain is simply a a desperate man, who knows he's probably going down to defeat.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:55:21 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642 in reply to jeter2
I am 73 and I can tell you that's OLD. There was a period when I was "mature", then, "older man", then, "elderly", now, OLD. There is nothing you can do about it. To be chipper at this age is a roll of the dice. We all know geezers who are still sharp and even athletic! Have you ever noticed all the OLD winos out there? Once, a short time ago, I had a conversation in a local bar with a black musician about my age. He asked me how old I was. I replied, in jest, 29. He looked at me sideways and said, "Man, you better slow down." I haven't a CLUE as to what's going on in McCain's head.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:44:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eniobob2631 in reply to donaldmaddog5642
TO donaldmaddog5642:
The next time that I see your name above a post I will "NOT" be preparing to drink a glass of water.I justed LMAO with that comment.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:51:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to donaldmaddog5642
Right, and I think Matthews is doing the country a favor by backdoor-wise sliding into the topic.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:52:58 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to donaldmaddog5642
Donald, you may be old (according to you), but you are one righteous old dude if that's the case. McCain, not so righteous. "-)
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:57:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to jeter2
How many 72 year olds do you know want a job that is pretty much a 24/7 gig? I don't know any like that. Heck, my Dad is 75, and well, he's been retired for quite some time, he's still chipper, athletic, walks and runs, and plays golf, but he's still good to go for bed at around 7PM.
I'm just saying. Being Prez ain't no cake walk.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:53:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mrhebert74 in reply to jeter2
Jeter, you're right. I should have been more specific, as I did not mean that all people who have lived the same number of years as McCain are "freaking old," only that McCain himself is old, especially for a presidential candidate. He would be older than Reagan, who famously lacked his wits about him at times and needed to nap during high-level policy meetings. Perhaps more importantly, McCain has indeed shown signs of being erratic, confused, and forgetful.
But to call a 72-year-old "freaking old" in general is not necessarily right. There are lots of septuagenarians who are srpy, fit as a fiddle, mentally competent, and not erratic. Just not the one running for president. Look, I'm not trying to pick on him, but I don't think it's ageist to notice that he's not in his prime anymore. It would be ageist to assume that about, for instance, your aunts, uncles, and mother. So, I don't.
I'm 34 years old, and looking forward to seeing age differently. :)
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 1:30:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mrhebert74 in reply to mrhebert74
I meant "spry."
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 1:36:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by onionhead in reply to mrhebert74
"There are lots of septuagenarians who are srpy, fit as a fiddle, mentally competent, and not erratic. Just not the one running for president."
Everyone ages differently. When looking at McCain, we really do not see any of the above mentioned characteristics (I don't think he's totally mentally incompetent--just enough to be scary). But there are other factors that combine to make him this way (stress, health, war injuries, guilt from lying, etc.) So it's not age; it is the things that result from age combined with everything a person's been through.
I, for one, was shocked at the debate watching him pace around and then walk in front of the camera as Brokaw was signing out. There may be other reasons for his behavior, but it sure doesn't look good.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 2:08:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to mrhebert74
Herb,
I agree. McCain actually gives other more spry & alert 72 yr olds a bad name. I wouldn't put McCain in charge of scheduling checker games at some old folks home anymore than I'd want him running this country.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 2:49:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mrhebert74 in reply to jeter2
All right then. We are in accord.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 2:54:53 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to mrhebert74
Mrhebert, old dude, Jeter just had a birthday yesterday, so he's a bit touchy about his advancing old age :-0) But he's still prime!
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:53:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to juliajayne
But he's still prime!
And of course you'd know that from personal experience Miz Julia ;-)
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 5:22:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to jeter2
Damn straight, cowboy!!! :-)
Like fine wine....! Aged to perfection. or is that beef? Stop me now.....! Moooo.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 6:41:35 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to mrhebert74
Exactly, or if McCain said Obama was Black. It's not bigotry to point out that someone is old. There's scientific evidence that age hurts.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:51:19 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to magnolialover
Of course, it has nothing to do with his age, but it has everything to do with how his campaign is being run.
I agree Mag. The McCain campaign is running scared now. They know it's slipping away. Desperate folks will say just about anything.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:53:30 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by ajzito in reply to magnolialover
"...whoever is running his campaign..."? I'd hold McCain responsible for the McCain campaign. This morning William Kristol suggested in his column that McCain "fire his campaign", like it was Dr. Strangelove's wayward left hand, I guess. But I think McCain has some influence over his campaign, at least as much as, say, a master has over his dog. For whatever reason, both Matthews and Obama are right - McCain's behavior, and that of his campaign, have been erratic, chaotic, non-sensical, you name it. Obama cannot afford to overlook this; I think Matthews may be projecting his own concerns about McCain's age.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:00:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to ajzito
AJ, I agree, McCain seems to be getting a pass on distancing himself from his surrogates. What's scary is that even the official McCain spokespeople are indistinguishab;e from the am radio screechmonkeys at this point.
I turned on MSNBC before leaving for work this morning, and there was split screen with a rep. for each candidate. Obama's surrogate was talking about the economy, McCain's was screaming out "He associates with leftists!" and "He's never done anything!" repeatedly, as the host and the Obama spokesman looked embarrassed for him.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:29:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
I actually heard one of these twits claim that Obama would never pass an FBI background check because of his "associations". Apparently they've decided to ride this horse all the way to the finish. How can these people not be embarrassed?
I hope Obama wins in a friggin' landslide.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:37:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to nerzog
Wasn't there someone on here last week claiming that as well? Something about Obama wanted to be a Secret Service agent, but couldn't pass the background check?
I also hope Obama destroys McCain on election day. The best thing about that, is that this would also probably mean that Palin would be over and done for on the national stage, and Tina Fey can hang up her up-do.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:56:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mrhebert74 in reply to nerzog
Actually I think it's true that the Secret Service would not hire someone who had an association with a former criminal. Like John McCain, for instance. But thankfully the presidency has a different, arguably much tougher job application process from that of Secret Service agent.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 1:33:38 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
I keep hearing the same thing from McCain surrogates, and of course when pressed on what McCain has done, we usually get, "He was a POW." Of course Obama consorts with leftists, he's, you know, a liberal. And depending on who you ask, he's the MOST liberal Senator going (of course, he's not, but we all know that).
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:57:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to ajzito
True enough. Good point. Ultimately, McCain is the ONE person really responsible for his campaign. But I'm sure that they have filled his ears with honey about what it takes to "win". I'm not absolving the man, but when you do run a campaign this large, there are some things that you don't control. It is all McCain's fault though that his campaign has now become downright insane.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:55:14 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:37:38 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DorisRussell in reply to wzwriter
Matthews is insane, his crazy screaming. He is worthless to even listen to.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:39:39 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to DorisRussell
Perhaps his erratic behavior is caused by the tingling in his legs?
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:10:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wookie
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 11:38:27 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to wookie
Ha! Best post of the day so far.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 2:45:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642
Someone should buy Chris a dictionary.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:45:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS in reply to donaldmaddog5642
Why buy him one where's one available online for free?
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:41:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BillJ-MN
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 12:45:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS
May I ask what makes Chris Matthews so special to where he gets his own section of MMFA (Matthews Monitor)?
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 3:20:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by steeve in reply to DAWUSS
He hates Hillary (and Bill and Gore) with all his heart and all his soul and all his mind. Now that it's all Obama the monitor isn't necessary.
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 10:40:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eniobob2631
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 4:00:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by ajzito
Posted Monday October 13, 2008 9:41:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by apollosmom
Posted Tuesday October 14, 2008 7:01:06 PM EDT / Flag this comment