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"[J]ournalist" Sean Hannity gives bogus defense for interviewing Andy Martin
Summary: On Hannity & Colmes, Sean Hannity defended his report featuring Andy Martin -- who has called a judge a "crooked, slimy Jew" and accused African-American public officials of corruption -- by saying: "I'm a journalist who interviews people who I disagree with all the time, that give their opinion. Fox has all points of view." However, during the report, Hannity did not challenge any assertion or statement by Martin, nor did he mention any of Martin's anti-Semitic and racially charged statements.
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Posted by wolf kotenberg
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:03:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by captfoster2 in reply to wolf kotenberg
"and should be ostracised by those who actually worked four years for one of those degrees"
I guess Sarah Palin should then be upset and/or angry at Hannity then??
Of course it took her four different schools to get her degree in Journalism, so I'm not sure that works and since Palin and Hannity share brain cells with the rest of the rightwing ideological twits...........
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:27:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by globalRower in reply to captfoster2
There's nothing fundamentally wrong with taking more than four years and studying at multiple universities to earn a 4 year degree. Palin's stances on issues (freedom, equality, and environmental protections, for example) are plenty of reason to be disgusted with her candidacy; as good as it feels, there's no call to insult her for the time it took to earn her degree. It took me 8 years of continuous, full time coursework at a total of three universities to earn mine, and I'm richer (though not financially - sigh) for it.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 8:03:57 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by captfoster2 in reply to globalRower
My comment was tongue-in-cheek...... however, I did re-read my comment and then yours and can understand why you wrote what you wrote..... it didn't come off the way I thought..... as it took me three schools (I was 18 for the first school and 33 when I finally got the first degree (Business Accounting)) to finally get my first degree and am at my forth one now to get my second BA (Elementary Education) ..... which is why I wrote what I wrote.... forgetting that no one in here would have known that about me.
But I digress........ I'm still more qualified than Sarah Palin for the office of VP!
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 12:04:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by JimmyCraghorn in reply to captfoster2
I hope your forth school teaches spelling ;-)
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 2:25:45 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to JimmyCraghorn
i learned spolling in my forth school................
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 2:39:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by captfoster2 in reply to JimmyCraghorn
Can I assume that you and Wolf are trying to be funny? I re-read my other posts and unless I'm missing something...... I spelled every word correctly.
Or is there an attempt at humor that I'm not getting? ;-)
I became nervous reading your comment.... of course... spelling here is not a requisite like it is in a classroom... so any misspellings are not that big of a concern..... but repeating ones self might be! lol
Like here ----> But, as I said in my other post... I'm still more qualified than Sarah Palin for the office of VP!
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 4:27:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to globalRower
I was posting about Hannity claiming to be a journalist, which is wrong and can be proven. just read his bio. Universities must protect their issuance of credentials and call these professional wannabe's at their lies, For they get bolder and bolder if not called out.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 12:12:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to wolf kotenberg
Anybody ever seen Hannity's high school annual ?
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 2:42:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by captfoster2 in reply to captfoster2
Went to sleep right after I posted the reply above..... I've been up for 15 minutes and came in here to see if any replies were left for me..... and it just dawned on me (by re-reading the thread as to what Mr Gibbs had done to Hannity.....
I was seeing it from the point of view that this guy was able to get Hannity riled up simply for being calm and concise.......
When in actuality that was only half the story.... he was making an example of Hannity and FoxNoise by assuming a 'guilt by association' in that Fox and Hannity must be all anti-Semitic for no other reason than they had an obvious racist/Jew hater appear on their station as a way to show just how bad / dangerous / childish / idiotic 'guilt by association' is when used as a defense.....
In fact..... I remember an episode of Star Trek - The Next Generation when Capt. Picard had to defend a crew member who was under fire by an over zealous female admiral.... that admiral was using 'guilt by association' as well..... and was left in the end with her career in ruins....... hmmmm
Funny how a decent nights sleep can allow you to see things differently the next day!
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 8:30:21 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by funnyguy45 in reply to captfoster2
Gail Collins' take on guilt by association in today's New York Times ("Clearing the Ayers") is a real treat: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/09/opinion/09collins.html?em=&pagewanted=print
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 3:50:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to wolf kotenberg
One of the phony defenses we've been hearing today is that by impaling Hannity about Martin, it's the same "guilt by association" fallacy that Obama supporters have long been complaining about.
Hardly. It's a false comparison, because Hannity did much more than just "associate" with this bigot. He actually sponsored Martin, by selecting him outright for his eponymous TV show and then making a point to highlight the special appearance.
It is so different in degree with mere "association" that I'm wondering if we are dealing with Hannity apologists who are fools, knaves, both, or something entirely new from hell.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 4:30:50 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to carlileb5935
Wolf, Hannity is just as bigoted as Martin, if not more so. Hannity is not only anti-Semitic, Hannity is also anti-black.
As for your last sentence, I'm going to say that each and every one of the Hannity apologists are all 3, plus a lot more other negative things. Ed Schultz correctly said that Hannity is a liar and a fraud.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 6:52:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to wolf kotenberg
We should also ostracise each and every ignorant, vile, uneducated, sociopathic, sub-human fool in this country who watches and thinks like Liar Sean Hannity!
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 6:49:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101
HANNITY: Mr. Gibbs, I'm a journalist who interviews people...
I almost threw the remote at the TV when I heard Hannity say that he is a journalist. Refresh my memory, but didn't FOX and Hannity once say, when it suited another argument in their defense, that Hannity was a conservative commentator and not a journalist? Didn't Hannity just say a couple of months ago that it was his job to smear first Hillary Clinton and then Barack Obama? Hannity is no journalist and what he does is as far from journalism as you can get. This is what I love about right wing commentators...every show happens in a vacuum. Forget what they said last month or even last week...it's a new, contrived reality every night. And their audiences are too dumb to know the difference...
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:10:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to IRONY 101
I'll buy that he's a journalist. He's just one that has no concept of what he's supposed to be doing. He doesn't understand that journalists aren't supposed to demonize people of a certain ideology. He doesn't understand that journalists are supposed to give viewers the whole picture about who they're interviewing, so their credibility can be evaluated. He doesn't understand that journalists are supposed to respect facts.
In this scenario, he's the worst journalist in the country, and has essentially admitted that he should be fired. So play along.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 7:22:04 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by edella1793
It was rather amusing watching Hannity receive the "guilt by association" treatment about Martin considering that was the whole point of the segment featuring Martin on Obama about his alleged "radical" indoctrination at the hands of his political mentor William Ayers and others. No actual evidence was presented in that segment. Lots of "possibly"s and "could/may have been"s.
So, Hannity's a schmuck giving a platform to another schmuck to expound about sh!t they just made up. What's new?
If the majority of voters in this country are actually swayed by this garbage they deserve not only scorn but also what's coming to them if they vote for McCain/Palin.
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:43:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to edella1793
It wasn't just "association." It was sponsorship. Much worse for Hannity.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 4:33:29 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by daimajin
The New York Daily News reported yesterday that Fox News personality Sean Hannity introduced Rudy Giuliani at a closed-door $250/head fundraiser in Cincinnati on August 9. Bill Shine, Fox's senior vice president of programming, said Hannity should not be judged according to the standards of journalistic ethics, which speak out against actively helping a candidate in such a manner. "Sean is not a journalist - Sean is a conservative commentator," Shine said. "Sean doesn't hide, and never has hidden, his beliefs from anyone."
Quote from Fox News' Bill Shine, Senior VP of programming.
Sometimes he's a journalist, sometimes he's not. Always a loser.
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:46:45 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to daimajin
Thank you for confirming at least part of what I said above...
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:51:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered in reply to daimajin
Sean is not a journalist--Sean is a conservative commentator. ---Bill Shine
That's what I was looking for but didn't find for my post below; one of his bosses saying that he's not a journalist. (I didn't refresh screen again--I guess I should open another screen on same story-- before I posted.)
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 12:04:36 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to daimajin
"Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you...."
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 4:34:31 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by hurricaneyankee52983
HANNITY woulden't know a journalist if he tripped over one. HANNITY is nothing more than a PROPAGANDA HACK for the REPUBLICAN PARTY and the NEOCONSERVATIVE cause ,kind of like DR. JOSEF GOEBBLES was for the NAZI PARTY.
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:49:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered
In the linked article below, published today on Hannity's resigning with Fox through 2012, the author says:
Hannity doesn't call himself a journalist, but rather a talk show host, which is significant because it frees him to offer opinions when he wants.---Richard Huff
It would be interesting to know did Hannity say this outright to huff, or imply it perhaps, or is he just making an observation from listening to Hannity as a professional reporter on television over the years.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2008/10/08/2008-10-08_sean_hannity_to_stay_with_fox_news_throu.html
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:55:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by ufleirx
Posted Wednesday October 8, 2008 11:59:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101
How could Sean Hannity be a journalist? I thought journalists were all liberals. ;>)
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 12:05:31 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to IRONY 101
How could Sean Hannity be a journalist?
Journalists have the ability to reason. Therefore, Sean Insanity is not a journalist. :-)
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 8:42:09 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels
I take back my insults calling Mr. Hannity the Journalist a Sissy. I was unaware of his secret life as a journalist. Now that he is out of the closet, he is to be treated as a journalist. Guess he'll have to discontinue his Stop the Obama Express. A true journalist such as Mr. Hannity should have no problem using his highly refined jourmalistic abilities in stopping that commentary-type nonsense. Next stop.....Limbaugh to declare he also is a journalist.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 1:31:43 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to princeofwheels
Calling Hannity a sissy is insulting the good reputation of sissies!
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 6:54:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by cpinva
when did hannity become a journalist? while it's not required that one have a degree in journalism to be a journalist, it is expected that you attempt to adhere to the basic ethics of the profession. mr. hannity, to the best of my knowledge, never has.
he, like his bretheren, rush limbaugh, is an "entertainer"
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 2:38:05 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels in reply to cpinva
He said it during his beat-down. And we all know that the Journalist Hannity would never tell a falsehood.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 3:02:18 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by TadekKorn
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 3:08:52 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by archae
Sean Hannity is a racist gay basher.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least in Hannity also hates Jews.
Public condemnation of the attack was not universal. Fox News pundit Sean Hannity was one of (Abner) Louima's biggest critics during the trial, charging that he had fabricated the rape — calling him "lying Louima" — and using interviews with people alleging Louima had past sexual relationships with men to bolster the claim that he had sustained his injuries during a "gay sex act." Hannity stopped using the "lying Louima" epithet after Volpe confessed to sodomizing Louima with the help of another officer.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 3:18:14 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to archae
Black talk radio, specifically "The Black Eagle" Joe Madison http://www.joemadison.com, and Waren Ballantine http://www.thetruthfighters.com, and Mark Thompson, and Clifford Kelley, Perri Small, and Matt McGill http://www.wvon.com, along with black female talk radio host Beverly Smith, have all ripped Liar Hannity and his racist listeners and racist fans for their collective racist anti-black sentiments!
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 6:57:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by kevin.owens5934
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 5:34:25 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking
I doubt that Sean Hannity could even spell the word "journalist".
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 7:38:33 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by luziana711555343
Why is Allen coombes on that program , he never challenges Hannity, most of the time he says he agrees.They don't want a strong antagonist of the liberal persuasion.Gibbs had that dinosaur Hannity on the ropes and Coomes rescued him by saying Hannity was not anti semetic. Let get rid of Coomes
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 7:44:52 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to luziana711555343
I tend to agree with you. Colmes ended up just being a decoration on the Hannity show. besides, it doesn't appear Mr hannity does need help from anyone, except Mr Ailes.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 12:23:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to luziana711555343
"Why is Allen coombes on that program , he never challenges Hannity, most of the time he says he agrees"
Answer: Alan Colmes is there to be Hannity's peronsal tank jobber, since Colmes tanks to Hannity and the rest of the lying right wing.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 6:58:45 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Handsome Pete
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 10:00:49 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by shaggles
I don't think this means Hannity or Fox are anti-semitic and I don't think that's what Gibbs was getting at. I think he was using their own argument style against them. If Obama is gulty by association with Ayers then Hannity and Fox are guilty by association with Martin. The truth is Hannity had Martin on because the right is desperate. They're going to throw poo at that wall until something sticks and they have know scrupples about whose poo they use.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 11:36:30 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 11:43:35 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to wzwriter
Let's try this again, and see if I can get the link to show up right...
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/8/6/6165/93743
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 11:45:19 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to wzwriter
They are capable of self policing but choose not to. I remember O'Reilly throwing a tizzy fit over the finances of the Red Cross after the 9-11 thing. And o'reiily occupies the same building hannity does.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 12:37:05 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to wolf kotenberg
And o'reiily occupies the same building hannity does.
This building would be more appropriate for both of them:
Or this one:
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 5:13:14 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to wzwriter
I have noticed when Hannity has Mr "Contra ' North on the show, he becomes a marine wannabe and huffs and puffs.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 12:25:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to wolf kotenberg
Chickenhawk Liar Hannity still hasn't given any type of credible reason for why he avoided joining the military at the time of Desert Storm.
Oh, wait. Hannity was here yelling "HELL, NO, YOU ALL GO!", just like the rest of the lying flag-scamming chickenhawk conservatives.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 7:03:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind
But Barack Obama said repeatedly that "they're going to say I have a funny name. They're going to say that I don't look like the guys in the currency. They're going to say, "Oh, by the way, he's black.'"
The only people that I see bringing up race is Barack himself, Kathleen Sebelius, Governor Paterson, and now Michael Dukakis today. All Obama surrogates. Who in the Republican Party is bringing up race? --Sean Hannity
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Hannity apparently hasn't seen this campaign ad:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDTJDv4hevU
He probably hasn't been to a campaign rally with "Joe Six-Pack" lately either.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhZEJiu03MU
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 1:12:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by hurricaneyankee52983
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 5:22:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by greenpagan
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 5:42:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to greenpagan
More than that, Hannity is also an anti-Semite and a racist himself. Not that this is news, either.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 7:00:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by michael.morrow
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 6:13:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to michael.morrow
Like I sai earlier, not seeing Gibbs bust Hannity goes down as one of the few times I regret not watching the Fox Lies Channel.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 7:01:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 6:48:19 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by SgtCedar
Since when is Hannity a journalist? These right-wing mouthpieces are all alike. If they are criticised for having on racists and fascists they are "journalists." If they are criticised for what they say themselves suddenly they are "commentators" not journalists. It is nothing but a smear machine.
Posted Thursday October 9, 2008 10:38:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by SteveRiverson162410
Insannity isn't anti-semetic. He praises Israel, and not also that his co-worker, Colmes is a Jew himself.
But WAIT! Isn't Sean Hannity the same person that said if Obama was around during the Rev. Wright's Anti-American speech or whatever leaked on the net, that that will make him a Racist becasue he didin't do anything about it? But Hannity was with this guy who called Jews' Crooked - was friends with a Neo-Nazi and quite certainly I'm sure he knew. So that there will make Hannity a racist. And not also that, he didn't condemn Ted Nugget's comments about Bill - I mean Hillary and Obama, but he was still slamming Obama about what his pastor said, even after condemning what Wright has said; "but Nugget is a close friend, i could never go against him" - but Sean sure did forgive Imus for what he said last year - "but Imus god down on his knees, lols"
Sean Insannity basically set himself up.
Posted Friday October 10, 2008 5:19:23 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real
Posted Friday October 10, 2008 7:48:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment