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AP's Sidoti reported Palin's claim that Obama has been "palling around with terrorists" -- but not evidence to contrary
Summary: The AP's Liz Sidoti reported Gov. Sarah Palin's recent comment that Sen. Barack Obama has been "palling around with terrorists who would target their own country," which Sidoti asserted "was a reference to [William] Ayers, a founder of a 1960s radical group." But Sidoti did not note that contrary to Palin's claim that Obama has been "palling around" with Ayers, the New York Times article Palin cited in making her remarks reported of the relationship between Obama and Ayers: "[T]he two men do not appear to have been close."
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Posted by tman418
The McCain campaign has officially gone down the drain.
Hey, it's been awhile since I've been the first poster!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 3:51:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by therick in reply to tman418
Now the right listens to the lies of Sarah Palin. No matter how desperate, no matter how foolish, no matter how large the lie, I'm still amazed how these right wing fools will follow anyone who tells them what they want to believe and what they wish were true.
No wonder we're in such a mess. We have the ignorant voting for the stupid.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:35:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to therick
No, it's the really stupid voting for the lying stupid. The reign of the incoherent, who deserve what they're gonna get.
Years ago there was a great Car 54 Where are You? episode, where the Fred Gwynne character made the exasperated comment about dealing with his partner, to paraphrase, 'He's crazy...you can't reason with him, you can't talk to him. you can't do anything with him, because he's crazy! All you can do is stay away from him....'
The quote of the new Century, I think. It's where we're at with about 65 percent of the country.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:27:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog in reply to carlileb5935
Ever see the movie "Idiocracy"? When I see how many people are going ga ga over the empty-headed mutterings of the Palindrone, I fear that Idiocracy may be frighteningly prophetic.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 8:42:00 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to therick
It is a new low, specially since some posters of the right wingnut party, seem to ignore POalin spoke in multiples. She did not say Obama palling around with a terrorrist but actually said Obama is palling around with terrorists ( a plural version of the word ). She ius a bigger nut than i envisioned.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 2:34:23 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fmbanker87 in reply to wolf kotenberg
i believe she was referring to ayers and his wife, also a terrorist. therefore, there are two, and use of the plural is correct.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:29:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by loonz
We're in deep trouble. Some pictures have surfaced of Obama and Ayers together.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 3:57:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by loonz in reply to loonz
MM should consider making the links a different color. You can barely tell the difference between the regular text and the links.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:03:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to loonz
If those phots are legit, then I'm on the terrorist watch list. Ha! Okay, maybe I am on the terrorist watch list :-0) Not much surprises me anymore.
Funny stuff.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:03:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to juliajayne
You're still on the ass-hobo list, JJ, I can tell you that much.
The Crazy Talk Express does seem to be going off the tracks at a pretty hilarious rate. OK, it would be funnier if millions of Americans weren't still buying tickets.
I just saw Republican spokesknob Brad Blakeman on MSNBC, and he's so out of bullets he's squealing about the Bill Ayers connection, but moving beyond the mind reading to the straight-up misquote lie. He yelled out that Ayers had said "I wish we could have done more bombings!". A few weeks ago, the wingnuts were taking the "I wish we could have done more" quote and interpreting it, now they're just making it up.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:31:13 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
On MSNBC this morning, they asked a question of a Republican kid at that bible college where they're gonna have the dabates.
Question: If you could ask Obama a question at the upcoming debate, what would it be?
Answer: I'd ask Obama why he didn't criticize his fellow Democratic senators when they condemned Joe Liebermann for speaking at the RNC last month!
Conclusion? There's nothing else going on in the world to these republican pr***s except political creepiness.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:34:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to carlileb5935
I just got home from spending the day in Connecticut with more than ten former supporters of Senator Joe's. They all voted for him when he ran as a Democrat. Today, 100 % of the people at the party would have liked to castrate the poor man for his recent behavior.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:25:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
I'm just a half-ass hobo. The other part of me is a muslin turrist.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:22:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to worrierking
Worrierking, I suggest you catch Hannity's America this weekend. The subject is Obama and friends: A History of Radicalism. It's one of the most pathetic propaganda pieces since this weekends investigation of our current economic situation, also on Fox. I think it's called Saving Our Economy, and it's a top-notch investigative piece that aims to find out who's responsible for the collapse of our economy during 8 years of the Bush presidency, and 6 of those 8 years under a GOP-controlled congress.I don't want to spoil the surprise, but a lot of GOP mouthpieces are interviewed, and it's pretty clear who's to blame !
My other cable news highlight goes to MSNBC, in a feel-good humnan interest piece about a 5 year old girl who, after being taught to dial emergency numbers, calls 911 when her mom has a seizure (or something). The anchor guy ( an African-American guy with a very Charlie Brown-like round head, don't know his name) remarks to his co-bobblehead "Can you say 'miracle' ?"
These are our fellow voters. A child who has been taught to dial 911, dials 911, and our newspeople think it's magic.The same thinking that decides that avoiding debate questions, but talking directly to Joe Six-Pack, wins a debate.
Ass Hobos.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 1:18:23 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
One more thing: I went to see Bill Maher's movie this afternoon ( Religulous), and it's pretty good. I don't go to the movies very often, usually wait for cable or rental, but I wanted to see this.
Being a cheapskate ass-hobo, I normally go to matinees, especially Sunday afternoons where it's just me and 5 or 10 old geezers. There was probably 150 people in the theater, laughing and applauding, which gave me a little faith in my fellow humans, that we're not all living in the 18th century.
OK, I left hyperconservative Orange County, and saw the flick in Long Beach, but still... I recommend it to all of you non-religious types.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 1:31:30 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
What I find most disconcerting is what will happen after the election. If Barack Obama is elected he will never have the trust and support of many Americans because their false belief that their President is a terrorist-sympathyzing, America-hating Muslim will be forever embedded in their tiny brains. Thank you, Sean Hannity...you're a great American. <sarcasm>
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 1:38:19 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
..."I wish we could have done more" quote and interpreting it, now they're just making it up.
Not to defend, Bil Ayers or the Weather Underground, but a little mentioned fact is that Bill Ayers was kicked out of the Weather Underground when he pulled back on some of their activities.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 9:08:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to juliajayne
You're on the Jeter watch list. Bet that doesn't surprise you my sweet Julia ;-)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:07:58 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to loonz
Those photos are pretty damning, Loonz. And not any less convincing than some of the material posted here on a regular basis by a couple wingnut posters. ;0)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:24:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to loonz
wow...those pics change everything lol. The race will start all over again!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 6:48:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy
Since McCain wants to play guilt by association, it's now on the table - McCain is a racist. He sat on a racist board according to Paul Begala, proof that McCain is a racist.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:09:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne
New acronyms for use in Republican style politics:
FUD Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt. Also known as scare tactics. Originally created to refer to smear campaigns. FNG Military (and now poltical) term. 'F..king New Gal' usually someone just out of training or just transfered into the unit/AO/campaign, who either hasn't proved her worth or doesn't know how to operate properly due to lack of experiance. See Sarah Pain. :-0)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:35:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy in reply to juliajayne
JJ, in case you didn't know it, there's a place in hell for women who don't support other women. You are compelled to support Palin for that reason!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:43:57 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to snoopy
That's how it works in Palin's little world, unless it's a woman who's been raped. Then that woman has to pay for a rape kit with emergency contraception, and if she ends up pregnant because she couldn't afford it then she has to give birth to a rapist's baby.
I guess the moral of the story is that you're not obligated to support women if they violate your personal set of absolutist and extremist morals, but you do have to support them if they violate your personal set of political values. Funny little world, isn't it?
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:54:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to snoopy
Snoopy, leave my lady parts out of this. I prefer to use my masculine brain :-0)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:04:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to juliajayne
I prefer your lady parts Miz Julia, but your masculine brain is nice too ;-)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:13:57 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to jeter2
Now there's two slobbering dogs on this thread? Maid!!!!!!!!!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:33:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101
PALIN: ...according to the New York Times, and they are hardly ever wrong...
Can we quote you on that, Sarah... or should you check with the boss first...? ;>)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 4:48:36 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by juliajayne in reply to IRONY 101
Was the NYT on the list of reading materials Palin gave to Katie Couric? :-0)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:07:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to juliajayne
Yes, with conditions. She only reads the NYT articles about Bill Ayers and changes the wording "not close" to "close" with a magic marker.
She also reads the Terrorist Watch List Quarterly, Musher's Digest, TV Guide, American Caribou Barbie Doll Journal, and the Wasili Whistlestop the Presses.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:28:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to mary59
Wonder if she ever read this NYT article?
"Maverick Again Roiling Alaska Governor Race", New York Times, October 13, 1982
The maverick referred to was Joe Vogler, the "I hate America" founder of the Alaska Independence Party to which Todd Palin belonged from 1995 to 2002. Just goes to show that Alaskan mavericks are a little strange.
BTW, it beats me how can John McCain share the same stage with Todd Palin...
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:37:13 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to IRONY 101
Hmm, good maverick Joe Vogler, roiling in Alaska according to the NYT. He hated America...well howdy do, we got ourselves a Palin connection to an America hater! Is this ironic or what?
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 11:11:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to mary59
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 11:25:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to mary59
maybe " maverick " is the synonym for being an a$$ ? I heard Alaska is a good place to hide from your past .
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:54:47 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy in reply to mary59
Whats ironic is that so called librul media won't report a thing about it. Whoever claimed that the media really only goes for sensationalism must be wrong, because I can't imagine the media passing on the chance to sensationalize that connection.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 11:48:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to snoopy
I think the media are simply looking at the matter of secession as being harmlessly cantankerous. But think about it...why would anyone advocate secession unless they deeply hated that their state was part of the United States of America? Harmless cranks...? Perhaps...but when a Vice-Presidential candidate's husband belongs to a group advocating secession, and the candidate has been openly supportive of the group, it makes you wonder what goes in that household. The notion that Bill Ayers has any influence on Barack Obama's thinking is ludicrous and without any evidence. The idea that Todd Palin may influence his wife's thinking is very real. John McCain should not share a stage with a person who has advocated his state's secession and should have had qualms about naming Sarah Palin as his running mate..
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:22:08 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to IRONY 101
...and I would like to know specifically why Todd Palin has a problem with Alaska being a part of the USA. And, the media should ask Sarah Palin whether she shares any of her husband's views. If she doesn't, then she can so...but it is a legitmate area of inquiry for someone running for VP.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:25:58 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to mary59
and the Snowmachine repair manual, the Moose cleaning quarterly.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:48:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to juliajayne
I wasn't aware that Joe Six-Pack people did any considerable amount of reading...like elites do. ;>)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:51:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to IRONY 101
maybe that was code for Sarah Six Pack ????
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:21:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by TheAncients
How about giving some credit where credit is due? One of the bombs he set stopped the US from bombing in Vietnam for a couple days, he never killed anyone, condemned terrorism, fought against discrimination. That's not terrorism, that's extreme mischief. Want to see terrorism? Look at what we're doing in Iraq right now, what we're doing in Guantanamo Bay and other places.
One thing I'll criticize Bill Ayers for is not having the faith in true non-violence, and instead skipping right on ahead. The US did not set a good example for us to follow though. In Vietnam we slaughtered countless people with firebombs and nukes. We ruined the minds of our soldiers and we do so to this day.
All for what? democracy and freedom? Does a democratic state have 300 million spent on propoganda? Does a free people have outside forces occupying their country indefinitely or fleeing the country for their lives?
Republicans don't seem to realize that power corrupts, and seem to forget our country's founders explicitly stated the limits of the governmen'ts power over the governed. And by the way, Republicans, I believe the 2nd amendment gives we the people the right to BE militant if we so wish - if the government oversteps its power, not that I am that type of person. It wasn't just written in so you could pull your guns on Mexicans who spook you.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 5:29:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eweston8542983 in reply to TheAncients
While I'd say several bad things about our bombing cambodia, criminal act, tactically and stragegiclly unsound, and politically stupid. We didn't nuke them.
Terrorist's consider the public targets. The WU didn't, they made sucessful efforts to avoid this.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:03:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by youngcynic in reply to eweston8542983
You're right. We nuked Japan, not Vietnam. Still, the number of dead in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, and the 67 other Japanese cities that we firebombed ,pales in comparison to the number of civillians killed in Vietnam.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 10:53:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DorisRussell
Governor Palins comment was the begining of the end for the McBush- HockeyMom ticket. They are going down the Karl Rove road of hateful, disgusting politics but this time it will not work.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 6:08:57 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to DorisRussell
Doris, I now like to call the McCain/Palin ticket the Drama Queens. Every day, it seems, there is yet another controverial statement or action on their part that screams for attention...anything to divert attention away from the real issues facing America. If it was not for the fact that it would offend the religious right I'm sure McCain would have Palin appear at a rally topless...probably accusing Barack Obama of being a Muslim. They are shameless frauds, both of them. That the race is still as close as it is sadly speaks to the intelligence, or lack thereof, and rigid ideology of a large portion of our voting population. I hope you are correct that most voters are hip to what's going on...
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 6:26:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to DorisRussell
Doris, I now like to call the McCain/Palin ticket the Drama Queens. Every day, it seems, there is yet another controverial statement or action on their part that screams for attention...anything to divert attention away from the real issues facing America. If it was not for the fact that it would offend the religious right I'm sure McCain would have Palin appear at a rally topless...probably accusing Barack Obama of being a Muslim. They are shameless frauds, both of them. That the race is still as close as it is sadly speaks to the intelligence, or lack thereof, and rigid ideology of a large portion of our voting population. I hope you are correct that most voters are hip to what's going on...
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 6:26:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DorisRussell in reply to IRONY 101
I hope I am correct also about most voters not buying into the BS. I just hope after 8 years of hell, most Americans are now smart . Lets see in a month ;-).
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:18:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to IRONY 101
Or the voters are flat out lying to the pollstrers. It is not a crime to do so, .............yet.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 1:19:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to wolf kotenberg
or the voters can't spell "pollstrers"
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 2:40:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101
Here's a little information about the Alaska Independence Party, whose founder expressed a deep hatred for America, its institutions and its flag. Todd Palin was a member for seven years and Sarah Palin, as governor of Alaska, has addressed the group.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/aip_founder_professed_hatred_f.php
http://www.akip.org/introduction.html
Is the self-described maverick married to an America-hating radical? What infuence would Todd Palin have on his wife should she become President?
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:07:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to IRONY 101
From bibliography at AIP web site: On Joe Vogler and the AIP: "Maverick Again Roiling Alaska Governor Race", New York Times, October 13, 1982;
Looks like Joe Vogler, the America-hating founder of AIP, was the original Alaskan maverick... And, remember, Sarah Palin said yesterday that he NYT usually is not wrong. Is she proud of being a maverick...as Joe Vogler was said to be? Or is maverick just a polite way to describe a nut case?
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:19:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pbg
Bill Ayers is a Distinguished Professor (a technical term) of Education at te University of Illinois at Chicago (which is NOT the same as the University of Chicago, where Obama taught [and where I went]).
By Republican logic, anyone whoever taught at UICC is unfit to hold office, because their interaction with Ayers is far greater than Obama had. So would practically anyone who served in a Department of Education at most schools in the country, because they very probably attended a conference with Ayers or had a paper published alongside Ayers.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:18:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to pbg
And what about Bill Ayers and the University of South Carolina, where he is, I believe, a resident scholar at its Museum of Education? Is South Carolina considered a radical leftist state?
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:32:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst
another sarahless weekend on the sunday morning shows. for someone who claims to be censored by the media, one would think she would want to show up. and she's really not looking like the adorable one anymore. more like sarah barracuda.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:51:12 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to mefirst
I asked my wife the same thing this morning...Where's Sarah? Under normal circumstances you would think the McCain campaign would book their VP candidate on every Sunday talk show right after the debate. Bottom line is the McCain campaign can't trust her to do anything more than go out and recite attack lines. Don't think people aren't noticing that, either...
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:17:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to mefirst
I asked my wife the same thing this morning...Where's Sarah? Under normal circumstances you would think the McCain campaign would book their VP candidate on every Sunday talk show right after the debate. Bottom line is the McCain campaign can't trust her to do anything more than go out and recite attack lines. Don't think people aren't noticing that, either...
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:16:18 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to mefirst
I asked my wife the same thing this morning...Where's Sarah? Under normal circumstances you would think the McCain campaign would book their VP candidate on every Sunday talk show right after the debate. Bottom line is the McCain campaign can't trust her to do anything more than go out and recite attack lines. Don't think people aren't noticing that, either...
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:17:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642
So far, nobody pointed out that Palin mentioned the "New York Times" three times in her remarks. Obviously to counter her stupidity with Couric in not being able to name not ONE publication she read when asked. She even made a POINT to say "MY copy" of the Times. Did she pronounce it "The Nue Yeark Times"? Don't be misled by her moronic statements or accusations. There are still MILLIONS of the brain-dead who just think she is the cat's pajamas. Gee-willikers, but I am scared! I am still waiting for the 2008 version of the Swift Boat mob to introduce a lie so perverse, so patently false, that the same group of imbeciles will swallow it whole. The Republican machine knows how to use Sarah Palin as their attack dog (I almost wrote "bitch"). Just look at that horribly self-righteous smile!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:52:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642
So far, nobody pointed out that Palin mentioned the "New York Times" three times in her remarks. Obviously to counter her stupidity with Couric in not being able to name not ONE publication she read when asked. She even made a POINT to say "MY copy" of the Times. Did she pronounce it "The Nue Yeark Times"? Don't be misled by her moronic statements or accusations. There are still MILLIONS of the brain-dead who just think she is the cat's pajamas. Gee-willikers, but I am scared! I am still waiting for the 2008 version of the Swift Boat mob to introduce a lie so perverse, so patently false, that the same group of imbeciles will swallow it whole. The Republican machine knows how to use Sarah Palin as their attack dog (I almost wrote "bitch"). Just look at that horribly self-righteous smile!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:53:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642
So far, nobody pointed out that Palin mentioned the "New York Times" three times in her remarks. Obviously to counter her stupidity with Couric in not being able to name not ONE publication she read when asked. She even made a POINT to say "MY copy" of the Times. Did she pronounce it "The Nue Yeark Times"? Don't be misled by her moronic statements or accusations. There are still MILLIONS of the brain-dead who just think she is the cat's pajamas. Gee-willikers, but I am scared! I am still waiting for the 2008 version of the Swift Boat mob to introduce a lie so perverse, so patently false, that the same group of imbeciles will swallow it whole. The Republican machine knows how to use Sarah Palin as their attack dog (I almost wrote "bitch"). Just look at that horribly self-righteous smile!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:53:05 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642
So far, nobody pointed out that Palin mentioned the "New York Times" three times in her remarks. Obviously to counter her stupidity with Couric in not being able to name not ONE publication she read when asked. She even made a POINT to say "MY copy" of the Times. Did she pronounce it "The Nue Yeark Times"? Don't be misled by her moronic statements or accusations. There are still MILLIONS of the brain-dead who just think she is the cat's pajamas. Gee-willikers, but I am scared! I am still waiting for the 2008 version of the Swift Boat mob to introduce a lie so perverse, so patently false, that the same group of imbeciles will swallow it whole. The Republican machine knows how to use Sarah Palin as their attack dog (I almost wrote "bitch"). Just look at that horribly self-righteous smile!
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 7:53:05 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy in reply to donaldmaddog5642
We got it the first time, dog! ;)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:10:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy in reply to donaldmaddog5642
We got it the first time, dog! ;)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:12:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642 in reply to snoopy
SNOOP! After boasting ablout my wonderful gmail and it's efficient and rapid service, the 2x387xxx thing would not "send" or "post". The time lag was so slow that I must have gone buts with the cursor. If I don't have the cyber skills you do, well, ex-cuuuusssssseeee ME!
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 2:47:13 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to donaldmaddog5642
Dog, Sarah Palin is a relative novice when it comes to big time politics. She's enjoying the attention she's getting tremendously as well as her assigned duty of reading attack lines and then hiding from the press. I bet she will cross the line... After a month of hearing Paline's anoying voice making nasty attacks even Mother Theresa would want to slap her. ;>)
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 8:21:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642 in reply to IRONY 101
Irony, I guess you don't read some of the comments under many articles in the various blogs about Palin. After looking at a few dozen blithering Pro-Palin rants I doubt you would be encouraged. No matter what this oh-so-adorable hockey mom says or does, she "speaks fer the reel Ameri-kans out in the reel, reel hert-lan' uv Ameri-ka who support the trupes and luv everthin' reel Ameri-kans luv, by gosh!"
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 3:11:23 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by JLyons
I guess the Pitbull is starting to lie more now, since she is going to parrot those lies until election day. What a joke she is.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 9:24:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eweston8542983
AP seems to be sliding into the tank with the rest of corporate msm.
I'm looking for a vertuall flood of lies in the next few weeks. Pace yourselves everybody, this will be stressful for all media watchers.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 10:28:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership in reply to eweston8542983
Yeah Ewe...
I guess Grandpah has decided to go from the gutter into the sewer. He's disgraced himself now beyond all recognition.
We now have a desperate old flip-flopper reduced to his final epic smear barrage. The corporate press has got one last shot.
Hey! That Sarah Palin sure does a mean Tina Fey impression doesn't she?
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:23:27 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by donaldmaddog5642 in reply to Limit Corp. Ownership
Regarding Grandpah McGoo, as we say in New Orleans, "Yeah, yu right!" McCain IS a disgrace, but HE is not going to have a say in the rest of his campaign. As long as this old fool had anything to decide, we knew he would just become a cartoon character and flush himself down the old crapper. But NOW his machine will be taken over completely by Rove's henchmen and the old maverick will be let out of his van only to wave and grin to the mob.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 3:02:05 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by holly
Here's one way to respond and it's closer to the truth than what Palin asserted:
Palin is a member of a church that targets gay people with invective and communist China-style reeducation camps. Some hear their words and physically terrorize gay people. Some even kill gay people. Therefore, Palin is a member of a terrorist organization with communist-style leanings.
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 11:25:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to holly
If you're our lost Holly, then
Welcome back Holly!
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 8:02:25 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by tman418
Check this out.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27038128/
The GOP is filing a complaint against Obama about receiving money from foreign donors. Here is part of the report.
"RNC officials acknowledged Sunday that they do not have a list of foreign donors to Obama's campaign. Instead, the complaint is based largely on media reports, including one from a conservative Web site."
So, they are going to file a complaint without evidence. Pathetic, huh?
Posted Sunday October 5, 2008 11:26:11 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by woodymcbreairty8457
In spite of her Valentino dresses, Palin is clearly willing to writhe in the slime with the rest of 'em. Her phony performance at the "debate" with Joe Biden was pathetic, like a wind-up toy that wouldn't stop talking. Her lines and talking points were so well rehearsed that it made her eerie voice even more annoying. When I hear someone talk that fast and furiously it makes me think they are on something. The real Sarah Palin was the one Katie Couric interviewed, the light weight, uninformed airhead. John McCain should be ashamed that he has put this embarassment upon the people of the United States.....but fortunately not for long....after Barach Obama is elected in Nov., Palin will slink back to her igloo in Alaska to face the corruption charges that have beed lodged against her.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:42:37 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eniobob2631
I think Sarh is still living in this time period:
INTERESTING VERY INTERESTING…………….A MUST READ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
* LIFE IN THE 1500'S ***
The next time you are washing your hands and complain because the water temperature isn't just how you like it, think about how things used to be. Here are some facts about the 1500s:
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly20bath in May, and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence, the custom today of “carrying a bouquet when getting married.”
Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children. Last of all…. the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying, “Don't throw the baby out with the Bath water.”
Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath. It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and fall off the roof. Hence the saying, “It's raining cats and dogs.” There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed. Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection. That's how “canopy beds” came into existence.
The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence, the saying, “Dirt poor.” The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until, when you opened the door, it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood was placed in the entranceway. Hence the saying, “a thresh hold.”
(Getting quite an education, aren't you?)
In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold overnight and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while. Hence the rhyme, “Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old.”
Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off. It was a sign of wealth that a man could “bring home the bacon” They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit around and “chew the fat.”
Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.
Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the family got the middle, and guests got the top, or the upper crust.
Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock a person out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial. They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of, “holding a wake.”
England is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people. So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a bone-house, and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through the coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone woul d have to sit out in the graveyard all night… “the graveyard shift”……… to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be, “saved by the bell” or was considered a ...”dead ringer.”
And that's the truth. Now, who said History was boring?????
Educate someone. Share these facts with a friend
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 6:33:40 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by funnymanpants in reply to eniobob2631
Everything in this explanation is essentially not true. Sorry! I know it sonds interesting, but things just didn't work this way.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:41:33 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Great American
MMFA is trying way too hard to spin this story. This has nothing to do with a conservative media bias. The facts are clear.
"When asked about it by the Politico, [Obama's chief strategist] David Axelrod said that they have a friendly relationship, and that they had done a number of speeches together and that they sat on a board together."http://us-elections.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_william_ayers_controversy
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 8:28:20 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to Great American
You could say the same thing for any number of people, since Ayers has been mainstreamed since the early 80's.
As has been pointed out here, if this is really an issue, then McCain has to answer for his relationship with G. Gordon Liddy. And Palin would definitely have her ties to the AIP put in the spotlight as well. Is this really the game you want to play?
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 8:48:00 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Great American in reply to Brabantio
You're trying too hard.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 10:26:08 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by funnymanpants in reply to Great American
You're trying too hard [to make something true that isn't!].
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:43:21 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to Great American
Demonstrate how. Show me where the stretch is, please.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:56:51 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to Great American
Here's a picture of McCain going to meet the con man, Raffaello Follieri.
Here's one of McCain with Rev. Hagee.
Here's Sarah Palin being getting a preventative treatment to protect against witchcraft.
McCain and Palin have more associations to explain than Obama does.
Palin's husband was a member of the Alaksa Independence party. A real hate America group.
McCain picking palin would be like Abraham Lincoln picking the wife of Jefferson Davis to be his running mate in 1864.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 9:19:46 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to Great American
AuH2O, I campaigned for Barry Goldwater when he ran for president. You sir, are no Barry Goldwater.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 10:14:34 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Great American in reply to mary59
So now you're a Communist?
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 10:26:29 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to Great American
Can you explain the logic of that question?!
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:42:22 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to mary59
I didn't think so. May I suggest a new screen name for you: Pb_bottom
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 3:23:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by caporale4995
Liz Sidoti has consistently, and uncritically, reported Bush administration and Republican talking points for many years.
I have been astounded that the AP has entrusted someone who, at best, belongs on Fox or the NY Post, with the respected role of being an AP reporter, and that they have continued to have her report for them in spite of such obvious and longstanding bias.
Everything I have ever seen that she has written has been straight out of the Republican playbook. This is not so much a matter of bias as what appears to be a role to present the Republican agenda as if it were a news report.
Whenever I read Sidoti, I wonder whether the right wing decided to infest certain respected news organizations with their flacks [Brit Hume, when he was at ABC, was another obvious example].
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 8:54:00 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog
There's a story floating around on the Left Wing blogosphere that Palindrone was actually chosen by James Dobson's "Council for National Policy", a committee made up of Evangelical Troglodytes. If true, it should scare the hell out of any thinking American.
Grampy has sold his soul to the "Agents of Intolerance" who crucified him in 2000. How far the "Maverick" has fallen.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 9:14:46 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eniobob2631
As they say"there is no there,there"
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 10:00:46 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eniobob2631
I take that back she is trying to make a"there,there"with this little reahashed snippet:Speaking to Bill Kristol, the conservative New York Times columnist, Sarah Palin continued her assault on Barack Obama's character. This time she aired criticisms of the Senator's former Reverend, Jeremiah Wright.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 10:06:36 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by perry logan
I love the fact that McCain and Palin are trying to sell themselves as reformers. If they get elected, will they arrest the whole Republican Party?
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 10:57:47 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog in reply to perry logan
Good point. I think it's safe to say that the only reason Karl Rove and his acolytes are supporting Grampy is to keep themselves out of prison.
If Grampy wins, he will probably fall seriously ill about February, and turn the country over to Palindrone. That's the stuff of nightmares...
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:04:06 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by shaggles
It's not like this attack is new. It was reported months ago and no one really cared. Even if Obama's relationship with Ayers is closer than he claimed, so what? Ayers isn't in jail so whatever he did with the Weather Underground was clearly a far cry from the sort of violent attacks perpetrated by Al Qaeda, Hamas, et al. People need to stop lumping everyone who has ever been labelled a "terrorist" in with Osama Bin Laden.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 12:50:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by genomega6250
The Obama campaign has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.
Complete Story:
http://sbk.online.wsj.com/article/SB122212856075765367.html?mod=djemEditorialPage#printMode
If you need more proof, just ask.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 1:39:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to genomega6250
You're linking to an opinion piece as evidence. Kurtz's opinion that resistance against racism is "radical" doesn't carry much weight.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 2:12:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Steve Wyp
Did you even read Kurtz's opinion piece? Even if you take is at fact, there's not one shred of evidence that Obama was associating with a terrorist. The William Ayers of the 1990s was committed to changing/improving schools in the Chicago area. Even if you don't agree with his methods, that's a far cry from acting like a terrorist.
On a more realistic basis, sounds like Kurtz is combining his own unfounded logic, a desire to defame Obama, and six degrees of separation. If you squint hard enough, things may appear they way you want them to be. Don't be fooled by Kurtz's myopia.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 2:27:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by 1greensix
Using the same logic as Oh, Bummer and terrorists, I guess I could easily claim that McCan't failed to report to his duty station for more than five years, took food, shelter and medical care from the North Vietnamese, and was on MORE than speaking terms with the enemy. That doesn't even come as a shock since he had the nickname of "Songbird" to the enemy, because he spilled is guts so easily and so often. I carried a .45 so I wouldn't be taken prisoner if my Huey was shot down. Suicide before surrender.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:07:05 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by 1greensix
Using the same logic as Oh, Bummer and terrorists, I guess I could easily claim that McCan't failed to report to his duty station for more than five years, took food, shelter and medical care from the North Vietnamese, and was on MORE than speaking terms with the enemy. That doesn't even come as a shock since he had the nickname of "Songbird" to the enemy, because he spilled is guts so easily and so often. I carried a .45 so I wouldn't be taken prisoner if my Huey was shot down. Suicide before surrender.
Posted Monday October 6, 2008 11:07:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment