A bit off topic, but did anyone see Frank on O'Reilly's show last night?  Their shoutfest?  I give Frank a lot of credit for going toe to toe with O'Reilly's ranting idiocy.  Nobody likes it more than I do when politicians are called on their baloney, but this time Frank should have walked off the set, O'Reilly embarassed himself again.

I saw it on youtube Tommy.  It definitely was a setup.  An attempted ratings booster for BO . . . bringing Frank on and yelling at him from first to last . ..

However, Frank got some good lines in. . . . like when he kept telling Oreilly that he was simply too dumb to comprehend how the financial crisis evolved . . .

I have no problem with anyone questioning Frank on his role in all of this, they all should be questioned and held accountable.  But O'Reilly isn't concerned with holding anyone accountable, it's all about propping up his ego as some sort of warrior for regular "folks".  Nothing more elitist than some blubbering talk show host telling the rest of us how they think we feel.  He is a joke.

"like when he kept telling Oreilly that he was simply too dumb to comprehend how the financial crisis evolved"

  O'Reilly is the dumb one? Who was in charge of the American financial process?? How much did we just have to pay to bail out that same financial process?? Besides, Frankie knew exactly what to expect by going on BOR's show. If he didn't, then that proves how stupid Frank is.

Who the hell cares about this. The House ethics committee cleared him and since this came out, he's been re-elected 7 or 8 times.

Barney Frank represents a congressional district in MA. He doesn't have to answer to anyone else except those people who live in Massachusetts's 4th Congressional district.

Absolutely, well said.

Honest question.

Are you the same tommy as Tommy (the one that usually on a WITH mobile, per Col. Sanders)?

   Of course the House "ethics" committee cleared him. Didn't they do the same for Slick willy after his famous blue dress excapades?

   Re-elected 8 times!?! Get real. That's Massachusetts!! They re-elected someone who murdered a woman named Mary Jo. They consider a murderer a hero, how do expect them to react to a prostitution ring run by a gay guy?

   You people are terrible at making excuses for immorality. I liked the way you didn't say 'it isn't true', but rather you say; 'they cleared him of it and his voters like him a lot'.

They consider a murderer a hero...

At least we don't vote for treasonous war criminals. 

"At least we don't vote for teasonous war criminals."

   Yes you do. And, you did twice in the 90's. Unless you don't consider killing thousands of innocent women and children, in Bosnia, to be war crimes.

correction;  "treasonous"

Bill Cunningham is such a slimeball. Alan Colmes ripped him apart earlier this week because Cunningham was going on about how horrible it is for Palin to be treated the way she is and how the media is going after her family. Colmes said it it were a "Liberal" you would go after her family. Then he started his hate fest with Colmes. What a jerk.

It's bad enough for talking heads to do this, but I think it quite pathetic for elected officials to carry on in public slandering their fellow elected officials in public. How can cunningham reasonably expect house democrats to reach across the aisle when he tosses out crap like this? No one wants to work with an a-hole.

Oops, my mistake, I forgot he only considered running, but ended up not. Apologies.

Thought for a minute you were confusing him with the Dukester.

Wow.  Let's parse this a little...

CUNNINGHAM: Henry Paulson and George Bush want us to give them $750 billion.  What's wrong with this picture?

CALLER:  Barney Franks.

Who is this joker? And if he is so interested in past scandals why not look at the Keating 5 scandal?

Off topic, but since the bailout is law now, I have lost some respect for the Democratic party. Never had any for the Republicans.

This whole bailout business appears eerily similar to Iraq war, a trap.

mushroom clouds = millions losing their job (like it is not happening already)

Paulson = Tenet (slam dunk)

Bush = Bush

Media = Media

Democrats = spineless

Cheney = where is he these days?

I am not convinced. There was no convincing going on at all except that if we dont pay a trillion dollars now, we will all die tomorrow. They have been saying it for a month and yet the stock market has been taking everything in its stride.

Is it worth paying a trillion dollars because of a possibility of a recession for the next 2-3 years? I ask as a living from paycheck to paycheck individual.

Was it worth the > 4000 American lives because Saddam MAY have had WMD?

The invalidation of government's approach starts to come in right away. Wachovia. Citi gets a deal to buy for 2 billion (with us footing the rest of whatever the bank owes). Wells Fargo offers 15 billion (with us footing 0 dollars) and the government favors Citi's deal?

I wish Obama voted against the bill (like my Congressman who voted NO) rather than having to defend it 4-5 years from now saying "if I knew then what I know now".

I did some simple math. 1 trillion = 1000 billion, 1  billion = 1000 million. So, assuming 250 million US pop., I with a family of 4 am already on the hook for 16,000 of tax dollars (with 2 of the 4 members being children) for the Iraq war.

Why preemptively pay 16000 more?

   Why pay more?  You answered your own question when you listed: Democrats = spineless. How much more do you need to know?

Democrats = spineless.

Wait til Obama gets elected with an increased majority in congress.  Then you will see what competent government can do.  Remember competent government?  I know, it's been 8 long years of ineptitude, so it's easy to forget.

"Wait til Obama gets elected with an increased majority in congress.  Then you will see what competent government can do."

   Foghorn the comedian. When you takin your act on the road, or are you already there? That was certainly one of the funnyest jokes I've ever heard. We've been going through 20 years of ineptness. So, I do look forward to change, but not the change that will raise my taxes by 35%, like will happen if O'bama took over. He's a puppet for other democratic leaders and Sweet Nancy and Gay Barney will tell him what to do and when to do it.

Funny, but yesterday I heard about a study that was just finished. It showed that the less some one feels they control the events in thier lives the more they create conspiracies and believe in imaginary concepts. Basically the less control the more thier minds made connections that don't really exist. (participates were given IQ tests they couldn't pass and changed, and some saw patterns in a static filled TV)

Example: a baseball pitcher who wears the same socks because he once had a no hitter wearing those socks.

Now we see average U.S. citizens who have no control of thier finances and the economy. Now a group of these same people believe Barney Frank is the cause or at least a factor in the problem. 

I guess what I'm saying is. We on the left are attacked for the more "looney" elements in our side of the aisle. The people that claim things like Dick Cheney was on the grassy knoll and shot JFK (although........). Or that the Bush administration staged 9/11. Things like that.

When are those in the conservative movement who are just as looney, going to be serriously called out for it? Like those who are now claiming Frank is responsible for the current economic mess. Or that gay marriage is causing the end of heterosexual marriage. Why are these people still allowed to spew thier silly theories in the media? I've heard some pretty stupid bs coming out from the right wingers, unfortunatly it is probably due to the fact that these people don't feel they control elements in thier lives (like banks going under and high levels of divorce).

But maybe if those on the left cloaked all thier conspiracies in religious overtones nobody would question them.

Bill Cunningham is a Rush wannabe ... a garden-variety mouth-breathing right-wing talk radio gasbag who is based in Cincinnati and is basically inconsequential outside the weird little world he and his ilk inhabit ... He was hired by McSame's people to "warm up the crowd" at a rally earlier this year and had to be thrown under the bus by McSame immediately afterward.