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NY Post baselessly claimed that Obama "broke his promise" to military family "when he mentioned" soldier's name during debate

Summary: The New York Post reported that "Barack Obama apparently broke his promise to the family of a fallen Wisconsin soldier when he mentioned the slain sergeant's name in his Friday debate with Sen. John McCain." The article added that "Brian Jopek, the father of the late Ryan David Jopek, told National Public Radio in March that the family asked Obama to stop wearing his son's bracelet, but the Illinois senator continued to do so." However, the Post provided no evidence that Obama ever "promise[d]" the Jopek family that he would "stop wearing" Ryan Jopek's bracelet. In fact, during the March 20 interview, Brian Jopek made no such claim.
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Posted by cArn

Uh, technically the NYP is wrong, but so is Obama and that's even worse. This is erroneous reporting, but I don't see how this qualifies as conservative misinformation.

Posted by cArn in reply to cArn

After actually reading through the article, I don't think Obama did anything wrong. The mom emailed a campaign website expecting a reply. The chances of that happening are miniscule, considering the volume of mail they reserve per day. Even if she included her name and that she was related to a fallen soldier in Iraq in the subjecdt line, it could still get easily ignored. I'm sure she's not the only to email Obama.

Then there's the fact that Obama mentioned the young man's name in response to McCain, who actually brought the subject up.

Posted by mary59 in reply to cArn

The biggest wrong is to think that more soldiers should be injured or killed because someone doesn't want their son's death "to be in vain."   As a matter of fact, the U.S. already "won" the war.  There is nothing to "win" in an occupation.

McCain suffered horribly as a prisoner of war but still thinks Vietnam was "winnable."  This is the ugly sin of pride and arrogance that some people in this country have yet to learn.

Posted by worrierking in reply to mary59

Pride and arrogance are his great failings. As experienced as he claims to be, he doesn't understand that Vietnam was not winnable and we did not lose. The same will be said for Iraq.

In Vietnam, and hopefully Iraq, we will have won most of the engagements with the enemy. Lost or losing, as McCain imagines it, implies being defeated.

In Vietnam we came to our senses. The nation as a whole decided that they'd no longer send their sons and daughters to fight and die for something that was never explained to the nation.

Hopefully, we'll come to our senses this time too.

Posted by mary59 in reply to worrierking

Amen to that, bro.

Posted by mefirst

here's a suggestion.  if you do not wish your soldier's name brought before the public, do not give a bracelet with their name to a major politician.   seems elementary, but apparently not.

Posted by Max Dharma

Okay, so the report was baseless.

How about we look at the bigger story… the family would now like Barack O to stop wearing the bracelet as they believe Barack’s using it as an anti-war protest and she finds that ‘uncomfortable’.

How about we tell that story?

Posted by my4cents1172 in reply to Max Dharma

Why? Because you want to?

The bigger story is that idiots like you cancel my vote.

Posted by my4cents1172 in reply to my4cents1172

Practically, you will not cancel my vote, if you live in Utah or Texas.

If you don't, please move there.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to my4cents1172

Practically, you will not cancel my vote, if you live in Utah or Texas.

He would cancel MY vote if he moved to Texas.  I say he should move to Idaho - he'd be right at home with the ultra-right wackos out there.

Posted by peebs755 in reply to my4cents1172

Actually, the only way anybody can cancel anybody elses vote is if two people get a half vote each. (or with repuglican vote caging, but thats another story) If you get one whole vote (heh,heh) it can't be "cancelled" by someone voting for somebody else.

Posted by ukobserver in reply to Max Dharma

By "the family" you mean the ex-husband don't you? The mother who gave the bracelet had no problem with Obama mentioning the fact that it was given too him as it showed that not all family members of US service people agreed with the war, which is what McCain was trying to claim during the debate.

Yes, we saw the debate over here too. 

Posted by fawltylogic in reply to Max Dharma

That story is baseless too, according to the article, so I'm not sure why you think it would be better to look at that "bigger story".

Posted by snoopy in reply to Max Dharma

Who cares what the former husband wants? He's divorced, and if I'm not mistaken, the divorce happened before the son died in Iraq. That deadbeat dad didn't care about his family until now? He was probably offered money for his opinion...

Posted by Max Dharma in reply to snoopy

Who cares what the former husband wants?

Well, apparently Barack doesn't care what Ryan’s father wants.

Nice manipulation though; you know, calling him the husband, divorced, and deadbeat while all the while failing to point out he’s the boy’s father. 

Intellectual dishonesty at its best.

Posted by historygeek001 in reply to Max Dharma

So you don't care about the boy's MOTHER? 

Once again, you demonstrate the flaws you accuse your opponents of having.  You're pathetic.

Posted by IRONY 101

I think it was exploitative and wrong for John McCain to bring up a dead soldier by name in the first place. McCain was attempting to use the individual dead soldier to show wider support for the Iraq war. Obama was placed in a no-win situation of having to show that not every family of a slain soldier necessarily believes in the war.