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Hannity asked if it was "danger[ous]" for Obama to speak of "economic crisis" but ignored McCain ad saying "the economy is in crisis"
Summary: Sean Hannity asked if there was "danger" in Sen. Barack Obama's speaking of "economic crisis"; but Hannity did not mention that Sen. John McCain has also said, in a speech and in a campaign ad, that the "economy is in crisis."
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Posted by wookie
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:46:15 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Governor in reply to wookie
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:50:37 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by funnyguy45 in reply to wookie
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:51:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by neon desert in reply to wookie
I would just like to interject here, if I may, that Shyawn Hannity is
THE.
DUMBEST.
GUY.
IN.
BROADCASTING.
And I'm happy to say that scientists have now confirmed that includes the ficus tree in the corner of Phil Hendrie's studio.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:05:13 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to neon desert
Every time MMFA posts something, all you guys do is agree with it and spit out some insults while slapping each other on the back.
Hannity asked if it was "danger[ous]" for Obama to speak of "economic crisis" but ignored McCain ad saying "the economy is in crisis"
This question is a fallacy.
Hannity is interviewing Gov Sarah Palin and would like her to expound upon her views as it relates to the question for the audience.
The idea of an interview is that you get to hear her answers and make some judgments based on what you hear.
This is the difference between Reporting, and Interview, and a Debate.
MMFA’s very premise that Hannity should have cited blah, blah, blah is flawed and is therefore a fallacy.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 8:17:18 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to Max Dharma
Actually it's not.
The issue, for the 100th time this week I think, is conservative misinformation from the media.
His asking her about Obama, when McCain has similar things in his past, forwards the conservative agenda by both making McCain, a conservative, look better than he deserves to look, and by making Obama, a liberal, look worse than he deserves to look.
If they've both talked about an economic crisis recently, either they've both endangered the economy in an unwise way (and not mentioning that McCain has said the same thing makes McCain look better than he deserves to look) or it's really a risky thing to say, and it makes Obama unfairly look worse than he deserves to look!
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 10:50:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to BottleBlonde
I understand your point but would stop short of calling it “conservative misinformation from the media.”.
Hannity is a rightwing conservative and FOX is a right-leaning news outlet; this would give Gov Palin the home court advantage. I would fully expect Obama to get a similar kid-glove treatment on MSNBC.
I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong to have a biased interview, but I do believe it wrong when so-called news reporting is biased.
Anywho, not trying to change your mind; just letting you know why I don’t think it was MMFA worthy.
Posted Friday September 19, 2008 11:31:23 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to wookie
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 3:03:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to wookie
Yes it is. He puts words in the other person's mouth and then asks "Am I right?" .. grr
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 8:20:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by shaggles
What a load of bull. Obama isn't using the economic crisis, which everyone is talking about, for political gains. He's using the failure of the Bush administrations economic policies for political gain. Which is exactly what he should be doing because McCain said just the other day that he's always for less regulation.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:50:39 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:53:37 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pete592 in reply to snoopy
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:56:30 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to pete592
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 1:19:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts
Well, she does kick...
But Sean doesn't have anything between his legs for her TO kick!!
:-)
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:22:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by august west in reply to snoopy
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:14:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wzwriter in reply to august west
Can't Sean get a skirt and pom poms?
He has them - that's the outfit he wears every time he's called into Roger Ailes' office.
:-)
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:25:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NiceguyEddie
I think it was a greater risk that McCain said the fundamentals of the economy were STRONG. (Which is a lot of nice sounding fluffery that means absolutley nothing... Like most republican faux populism.)
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:54:01 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to NiceguyEddie
I agree. Saying that the fundamentals of our economy are strong, when they really aren't, and when anyone who has a lick of common sense knows that the fundamentals aren't strong, is a bad thing to do.
However, I don't understand why John McCain didn't try the reasonable explanation to his comment. I mean, I really do understand - they are so into the lying that they can't even see their way clear to admit the truth when it would benefit them!
All McCain had to say was that the bedrock that underlies our economy, our workers, our natural resources, our infrastructure, our huge GDP, would allow us to pull out of this downturn bruised but not buried.
I don't even think that "fundamentals" are all that different than what I said above, but he sure didn't explain it properly. He was trying to be optimistic, because he believes that being optimistic is valuable. I think it is valuable too. But the fundamentals are not strong. Unemployment is out of control, home ownership is tanking and has taken the mortgage industry with it, banks, stock firms and insurance companies will garner about 400 Billion dollars in the near term in government assistance, which will really impact our national debt.
The things that have helped make our country great in the past will be able to help our nation be great in the future, but not with the interference that the leadership the Republicans would provide.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:14:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to BottleBlonde
The way I see it...
McCain stumbled with his "fundamentals of the economy are strong" comment and he tried to regain his balance by attempting to portray Obama as disrespectful of American workers. But that dog won't hunt...
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:19:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by neon desert in reply to IRONY 101
Just what ARE the fundamentals of our economy?
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:18:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NiceguyEddie in reply to BottleBlonde
He didn't explain his comment, because at the time he HAD NO explanation. He was just spouting nonsense, trying to gain people's confidence and trust. (The opposite happened, so he changed hi tune, and onbly THEN did we get his "explanation.")
McCain and Graham and thier ilk are responsible for this mess. They are trying to obsfucate that embarrassing fact. John McCain doesn't have a clue.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:33:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pete592
Hannity tapping Palin for POLITICAL ANALYSIS???
What's next?
Is Alan Colmes going to ask Joe Biden which color of neck tie works best for John McCain?
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:54:47 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by JLyons in reply to pete592
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:06:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by tommy in reply to pete592
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:49:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101
Is there a danger in terms of the world hearing that?
What...? Like the rest of the world doesn't have newspapers or TV news, or is too stupid to understand that the U.S. economy is in crisis mode? Would Hannity prefer to hear a collective chant of USA! USA! USA!...?
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:13:19 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to IRONY 101
Irony, this seems to be the latest wild-ass flailing on the right, & the buzz words I'm hearing most often are "talking down the economy". The idea that saying the economy is bad is what's making the economy bad fits right in with the emotional happy talk approach. They want to change the subject from the economy very badly, and this allows them to blame those not avoiding the subject for causing our current problems.
I did catch a little of this last night, & the Sean looked like a little puppy, chin in hand and dreamy eyed as Mrs. Loopner droned on with her talking points. The funniest moment to me was when Sean's crush trumped his partisan hackery. Palin responded to a "hard" question by telling Hannity that they could talk about the subject for hours, not enough time here (hint: Sean, abort! I don't know), and Sean looked at her and said in that soft , awkward pre-teen dork voice of his , "I don't have to be anywhere."
It was LOL funny! He was so excited about his date, he forgot he was at work.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:33:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:37:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wesley in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
-- I did catch a little of this last night -- Colonel
LMAO...you caught a little of this last night...you caught a lot of it and you know it. Don't be afraid to admit to your liberal friends that you are a closet viewer/listener to those awful right wing shows...how else could you offer so much expert testimony on those dishonest bastards.
Although you're pretty sly...the pattern has become crystal clear...and you'd make a great politician.
While on my lunch hour I caught a little of Limbaugh and he said blah blah blah...
While driving home from work I caught a little of Hannity and he said blah blah blah...
While running some errands in the car I caught a little of O'Reilly and he said blah blah blah...
It's ok that you're just doing your duty and monitoring those right wing crooks...it's a noble cause...so don't be afraid to wear your mmfa "junior watchdog" badge at the grocery store...it's ok...really it is.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:46:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by leftinmississippi in reply to wesley
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 3:24:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by tommy in reply to leftinmississippi
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 3:29:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to leftinmississippi
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 3:33:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wesley in reply to leftinmississippi
Here's a little help for you, portsider.
The colonel and I crossed the rude bridge a long time ago. He doesn't give a darn about my opinion and takes no offense...and guess what...it works the same for me.
See how easy that works...no blood pressure issues...no nervous tics...no upset stomachs...jump in, the waters fine.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 3:35:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to wesley
And you know I love you, Wesley, so anything goes.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 5:28:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wesley in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Thanks colonel...the freckles are becoming on you.
I was puzzled at first, thinking "what the heck did the colonel do with my unit". Then it became clear...it's a liberal card...demonstrating the liberal philosophy on equal rights.
Yeah, I get it...like income re-distribution, leveling the playing field, it wasn't fair for me to have something that you didn't...so we reduce everything to the lowest denominator...on second thought, thanks for nothing, colonel.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 6:18:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by shaggles in reply to IRONY 101
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:36:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to shaggles
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:39:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by funnyguy45 in reply to IRONY 101
Yeah. I think the world already knows. Here is a headline from USA TODAY, April 10, 2008: "U.S. economy will stumble along until 2010, IMF says: Report calls situation worst 'since Great Depression.'"
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 1:00:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by scootmandubious
You know what would have truly been news? Discovering that Hannity treated both sides impartially.
Mr. Hannity is a hack of the lowest order. I stopped listening to him in the 2000 election, because it felt like his program was one, long infomercial for the Bush campaign.
Now, I can barely tolerate the sound of his voice.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:46:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to scootmandubious
You know what would have truly been news? Discovering that Hannity treated both sides impartially.
It's Hannity's job to be partial. I can live with that. What would be truly newsworthy, however, is if Sean Hannity ever told the whole truth. I can't listen to him either...because it's just a steady stream of one nasty, acrimonious lie after another.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 12:58:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pithaughn
Sorry, but I do tech support for a bank. The fundamentals are gone, left the country, were sold to foriegn investors. If the fundamentals are strong, they now have Russian, Chinese and Arabic language descriptors. Please be aware that AIG, Bear Stearns etc are NOT american corporations, they are giant international conglomerates. We, US taxpayers are bailing out non-american corportations.
Small bank officers and owners are excreting bricks right now. Bricks with sharp corners that really hurt when passed.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 1:24:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to pithaughn
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 1:39:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to pithaughn
Robert Reich last night commented on this, saying that if AIG is a multinational corporation, and some of the nations where it is a big part of their economy cried to the Bush Administration that AIG's downfall would hurt the world economy and their nation's economy, then why is it only the USA who is paying to shore up AIG?
If it's a multinational company, why aren't other nations helping prop it up?
I thought it was a good question.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:41:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to BottleBlonde
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:56:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by annes10 in reply to BottleBlonde
THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH LIBRULS LIKE YOU BB... YOU GET ALL THINKY ALL THE TIME BOUT EVERY LITTLE THING LIKE NOW ITS THE ECONOMY. WHATS WITH YOU? ANOTHER TEMPEST IN A PIGPOT. FRENCH CUFFS ARE BAD, THATS ALL I THINK.
Posted Friday September 19, 2008 9:55:35 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by annes10 in reply to annes10
OOPS!!!! GORFOT!!!!!
!!!!!!
Posted Friday September 19, 2008 9:59:12 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by McKinley Morganfield
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Posted by achrispage6992
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Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:37:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mk3872
Good Grief, MMFA, your heads must be spinning you into a dizzy haze these days trying to keep up with the unbelieveable barrage of misinfo around the campaigns right now!!
Unfortunately, since you are only debunking here, it is difficult for you to also point out that nearly a month after being picked by McPOW, she still has not laid out any specific issue initiatives!!
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 1:45:35 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to mk3872
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 2:22:14 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by sportsguydave
The fact that the right-wing noise machine felt the need for Caribou Barbie to sit down with Insanity shows that they know her act is wearing thin.
She's a liar, a hypocrite, and a fraud.
In other words, a perfect right-wing Republicant ... :)
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 3:20:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by sisyphus00
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 3:31:11 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to sisyphus00
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 4:09:58 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to sisyphus00
Sorry if the fact that conservative misinformation in the media getting covered boggles your mind.
The problem is your mind, not Media Matters.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 7:56:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by hurricaneyankee52983
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 5:09:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by dawarey
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 6:43:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to dawarey
1. Read the Media Matters mission statement.
2. See that they don't try to solve all the world's problems. They try to point out conservative misinformation in the media that furthers the conservative agenda by making liberals look worse than they deserve to look or by making conservatives look better than they deserve to look.
3. Some points that Media Matters are bigger than others. If you ever think that an issue is too unimportant for you to comment on, feel free to not comment on it! No one will force you to post! Really, we won't!!!!!!
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 11:04:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eweston8542983
Not sure who your comment is directed at DW. Who would you like to go after the real problems?
Throw out a couple of those problems. Chances are you'd get some agreement here.
Posted Thursday September 18, 2008 10:49:58 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pklute63
It was like watching the Monty Python "Spanish Inquisition" skit. The only thing missing was poking her with the fluffy pillows!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkY
Posted Friday September 19, 2008 7:28:03 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by annes10
I DUNNO BOUT YOU WOLF BUT NOW THAT I'M A REPUBLICAN AND A GREAT AMERICAN I EXPECT MY TAXES TO BE LOWERED. REPS ARE GONNA LOWER EVERYONE'S TAXES FOR SURE BY BUSTING THE ECONOMY !!!!! BUST=NO JOBS=NO TAXES! READ MY PIGLIPS!!!!
Posted Friday September 19, 2008 9:45:23 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by didi
Jon Stewart had a great take on Hannity's suggestion that we should not acknowledge the economic crisis.
"It's like the Wile E. Coyote theory of gravity applied to economics"
Think of the graphics!
Posted Friday September 19, 2008 10:38:51 AM EDT / Flag this comment