Here is what pisses me off so much about McCain and the media. Here is a story you guys might find interesting. John Leboutillier is a former Republican United States Congressman from New York who is a frequent guest on a local right wing talk radio show in Bristol, Tn. The show is  called the Marc Bernier show BTW (if anyone is interested). Anyway, earlier in the year Mr. Bernier would have the former congressman on once per week. Congressman Leboutillier has a personal relationship with Sen. McCain. He is not a supporter of McCain but he had some stories which have been hidden by the press or forgotten. Did you guys know that a formal complaint of sexual assault was brought against Sen. McCain? This was dismissed by Sen. Mitch McConnell as he said the senate had no jurisdiction over the matter since the alleged assault happenned when McCain was serving in the house. Anyway, the story is pretty airtight. There are witnesses and congressional records of the complain being dismissed. Here is a link written by former congressman Leboutillier: http://www.borderfirereport.net/john-leboutillier/mccains-history-of-abusing-the-public-trust.htmlWhy in the heck doesn't the "left wing" *wink* report this kind of sleaze when they have no problem running with a lipstick on a pig story for two days? This is real. This is documented to have really happenned and nobody cares! John McCain is a volatile paranoid person. John McCain + Sarah Palin= McPain. Elect them and we'll all feel it.

Thanks for the link. You are correct that McCain's moral character, or lack thereof, has not been publicly vetted. A myth of character a has been created because of his POW experience...and because he's apparently had enough stroke to tamp the fires down when they erupt. A sleazebag politician IMO...

I've never liked ads as news to begin with. Playing an ad as part of a news story is pretty much playing the ad for free if you ask me. With that said, even though Mara didn't debunk the ad herself, the rest of the piece's content, esp Obama's audio pretty much showed the ad to be bunk, so I'd rate this story a push.

Anda one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/beverly-davis/palin-pregnancy-mother-da_b_123101.html

Anda two:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/beverly-davis/palin-pregnancy-mother-da_b_123101.html

Pretty much every female anti-Palin blogger on HuffPost is a feminist.

Which is funny, because even NOW will defend Palin against these notions, like those perpetrated by Kurtz at WaPo, whom MMfA can't decide is a credible source or not:

http://www.now.org/news/note/090508.html

Palin is being attacked because she's more of a threat to Obama than McCain is, and the Obama campaign and the left blogosphere know it.

PS. Even though my opinions are incredibly unpopular here, I wouldn't mind hearing how to change the links into readable ones. I'm highlighting the link and pressing the link icon, which gives me a chance to rename it, but then nothing happens after I hit ok.

Palin is being attacked because she's more of a threat to Obama than McCain is, and the Obama campaign and the left blogosphere know it.

 

Just don't tell McCain, he'll throw a total fit if this info somehow gets back to him.

It's not "renaming the link".  That's where you're having difficulties. 

1)Highlight the text you want to become a link

2)Hit the link button

3)Insert link

Sometimes it's hard to remember, but it is good form to make it so it appears in a new window, particularly when threads get long.

Dex wrote:

>>Palin is being attacked because she's more of a threat to Obama than McCain is, and the Obama campaign and the left blogosphere know it.

When you can show me how Palin is being "attacked" (that is, not just justly criticized ), I'll consider your notion. At this point it is shown that Palin cannot tell the truth, nor can she answer questions. She agreed to cooperate with the investigation in Alaska into  her alleged wrong-doing, and now the AG (her apointee) is telling employees not to obey suponeas. She is Cheney all over: hiding from the press, already under investigation.  

Do you literally only read MMfA? I gave two links on how she's being attacked. She's being attacked by fine, upstanding Democratic citizens like Madonna and Lindsay Lohan. She's being attacked by USWeekly while they publish a family photo album of the smiling Obamas. She's being attacked for taking the VP, for not being "experienced" enough, for "Troopergate" (which the media is completely ignoring in terms of the actual DETAILS of the incident and the trooper involved). Do you really need me to find examples for you?? Go to cnn.com! Go to HuffPost.com!

Nice post Dex, and yes the majority only read MMfA or other far left blogs.  You will see a level of bitterness and angst that will really open your eyes.  That being said there are some good posters and if you can wade through the hacks it can be enlightening.  

Palin is being attacked because she's more of a threat to the constitution as well as good government due to her complete lack of experience, and the Obama campaign and the left blogosphere know it.

There, I fixed your post.

While I completely disagree with your analysis, your post was much better than the person questioning whether she's being attacked or not.

Palin is being attacked because...

Not true...she is not being attacked. Palin is being scrutinized because she is a VP candidate who most people had not heard of until about 5 minutes ago. What apparently upsets you is that the picture of Sarah Palin that is emerging is one of a petty, vindictive woman who shades the truth to make herself look good...and, most importantly, someone who is laughably unqualified to serve as either VP or President. Her selection was purely political, with no regard for the welfare of this country.

Irony,

Please explain coherently why Sarah Palin is more experientially unqualified to serve as VICE president than Obama is to serve as PRESIDENT.

In a nutshell, Barack Obama is an extremely smart person, knowledgable in world and domestic affairs, of good character and whose judgment I trust. Sarah Palin, IMO, is none of those things.

So, your argument that Palin is unqualified is based on your opinion that she isn't smart enough. It has nothing to do with her level of executive and/or legislative experience. That's fine, just wanted to clarify.

 

Sarah Palin's experience does not qualify her for VP or President. She was a mayor of a tiny town and then governor for a short while of one of the least populated states in the union. It appears to me that she has spent a great deal of her time as governor dealing with personal and family matters. Her interview with Charlie Gibson was embarrassingly (for her) revealing with respect to her knowledge of world affairs. She is shallow. And she brings to the table the ignorance and narrow-mindedness of a modern day American fundamentalist Christian.

I do not need to go into Barack Obama's experience as you are well aware of his service and experience. If you believe his resume is thin I say that whatever may be absent in years is more than made up for in his intelligence, vision and judgment.

You can say checkmate now Irony.....if you want to.

We don't have to explain why Senator Obama is qualified to be president. He's done a pretty good job of it himself over the last several years. He stood before the public, explained his positions, faced media witch hunts and still won primaries.

He is most certainly as ready as any candidate has ever been to lead the country.

Let me know when Gov. Palin has stood up to the barrage of media criticism that Obama has. Let me know when the Governor outlines her plan for the country. Let me know when she's ready to answer questions.

She's a creation of the RNC. They've designed the package long before they created the product. So far the product details that have leaked out are a disappointment. It seems they've taken Sinclair Lewis's warning and added a lipstick and a dress to make fascism more palatable to Americans.

You're right, Obama has done an excellent job convincing a lot of people. Here's his resume:

Harvard Grad. (I can't believe in such a terrible America, a half-black man that wasn't a legacy could do that!!)

Chicago community organizer.

Illinois state senator.

Half-Term US Senator.

 ...

.....

The fact that this guy even had a chance in the primaries is amazing. 

I'm amazed that Abraham Lincoln was nominated too. He had similar qualifications to Senator Obama's.

We elect leaders, not followers. The present administration refused to lead and chose to follow the Neo-conservative platform set up in the PNAC.

McCain had been more independent than most Republicans are used to but he came to the realization that he'd never get the nomination unless he went against most of his principles and accepted the Neo-con wet dream. He could have been a leader, but chose to be just another follower of failed policies. Even that wasn't enough for the Reublicans. They needed proof that he was willing to put part above country. To prove that he was willing to do this, he chose Sarah Palin.

Country first, my ass!

But you're just upset because you disagree with her politics. Repeatedly in this thread, no one has said anything but Obama's "leadership, judgement.." etc is what makes him "better" than Palin. So, he doesn't really have MORE relevent experience to be President that Palin has to be VICE president (remember, vice president). It is truly country first if you care about energy independence, a culture of life, strong national security, and a light tax burden. If you're more welfarist, socialist, etc, then I can see why Obama is the better choice.

But don't play like Obama will be "better" at gov management than McCain or Palin...you have nothing to back that claim up with.

How about he has experience in Washington, and has served on the following committees: Foreign Relations, Environment and Public Works, Veteran's Affairs, Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, Homeland Security and Governmental Affaris.  Acting on these committees he has directly been involved with creating legislation that guides our country - a long w/ all the other Senators on the committee.  So he has experience creating legislation for Foreign relations, the environment, veteran's, health, education, working class people through labor and pensions, homeland security (for the nation).  Not to mention all of the other legislation he has co-sponsored.  In the Illinoise government he would have participated in state legislations.  As a community organizer helped people who desparately needed it.

Sarah Palin's experience:  request earmarks, get friends hired to important jobs cause they like cows, fire librarians, fire people who don't agree w/ you, ban books, request more earmarks, deny request for earmarks, reform government spending by spending less than your previous govenor, oppose sex education, make women pay for rape kits, believes that rape and incest victims should carry pregnancies to term (cause they haven't already been violated), and I could go on.....

Could you please provide some concrete evidence to how Palin's experience even comes close to equaling Obama's?  Or is it just your personal opinion that will get her through the election? 

So then your someone who puts country first because you want to pay less taxes, you want to criminalize abortion, you want to stay dependent on fossil fuels and you're one of the bedwetters who feels unsafe.

Here's an idea. Pay your share of the taxes needed to live in a civil society. Lock your doors and don't have an abortion.

Your side seems to think that putting self first is putting country first.

We don't have to explain ...

 

Well, there ya go ... the perfect liberal response. 

MM: " ... as FactCheck.org and The New York Times have noted."

Not very convincing, MM, considering the left-leaning nature of both organizations.

Not very convincing, considering your dishonest nature.

All you've done is personally attack me. You provide no examples of any "dishonesty."

Save it. You give us your opinion about FactCheck and NYT without evidence, so save it. You reap what you sow.

You've been dishonest since day one.  If I had a nickel for every time that you were debunked, I'd get a used van for my stepdaughter.

And you have shown no back ups to show why you think factcheck is left-leaning.  Is it because McCain has lied more?

Factcheck leans left, huh. Could you provide any evidence or links to support that? Or is it a case of anyone that would dare expose some of the bulls***t that the Right spews out is labeled "biased", even though they do the same for the Left?

You should look into the Annenberg Foundation. It has funded several left-wing projects like the "Chicago Annenberg Challenge," spear-headed by Barack Obama's terrorist-friend William Ayers.

The Annenberg Center has "funded several left-wing projects"?

That makes me ecstatic.

I worked for one of Ambassador Annenberg's (Nixon's Ambassador to the UK) companies and the Annenberg foundation was partially funded by money he never paid his employees when he put them out of work.

I'm glad my money is now going toward good causes.

I see. So the Annenberg Foundation - created by Walter Annenberg, who was appointed ambassador to the Court of St. James in the UK by Nixon, who introduced Reagan to Thatcher, who entertained the Ron and Nancy at his estate and contributed to Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign, whose wife (now chairman) attended the state dinner hosted by W. for the Queen just last year- you're telling me they lean left???

I think I'll stick to my original assessment that Righties cry biased whenever they get called on their BS with the facts to back it up....

That would be another nickel for me.

http://ricksmithshow.com/

Just testing.

NPR doesn't need to point out the right wing lies. Their listeners are educated enough to pick them out. I think it's great that the GOP machine is making fools out of themselves in public. I say keep it coming.

Hey stranger, welcome back.

I'm guessing that this isn't The Solon. Brab and I were talking about this the other day.

If Obama had that nebulous amount of experience that would be sufficient to a wingnut the complaint would be that he is a part of the problem because he's been a part of the liberal power structure for so long. And unable to bring a change to what he's been a part of so long. That Micky might be the same would never be acknowledged.

This is what buying the ideology does to you. No sale!