How elitist of him. Heck, Cindy McCain only stooped to wearing $300,000 worth of clothes and jewelry because it was a convention. And just because jukebox john's loafers cost more than Joe's whole suit is no reason to assume he's an elitist either. Heck, I read this week that one of mccain's 8+ homes is being forclosed on! The malibu one, I think. He really knows what it's like to be like us!

That's different.

You know I never post without facts to back it up. I forgot to add the link, but here's proof that McCain understands foreclosures like us middle class folk!

I like French cuffs. Worn at the right times, they can be quite classy. Not that I am totally "in the bag" as an Obama supporter, I think it is more difficult to "connect" with somebody that owns 9+ houses than cheap cuffs.

At least those houses aren't French.

ooo right on target. nothing but net sir.

Again with the French??

I suppose I could send over to all of our media, a detailed history lesson about how if it were not for the French 240 years ago...... each and every one of us here in America would have a British accent!

Of course..... FoxNoise would probably send security after me if I did?

Or a BillO 'stalker' producer?

LET'S CHANGES THE NAME TO FREEDOM CUFFS!

...On second thought, maybe not.  That sounds like a euphamism for those plastic zip ties that cops use instead of handcuffs.

At least those houses aren't French.

I think it's a safe bet that at least one of them has a set of French doors.  And somewhere, there's French Vanilla ice cream and French fires in the freezer.....

:-)

And some years ago he probably hired Mr. French as his butler.

sure, this is important.  let's not talk about the fact that palin keeps lying about the bridge to nowhere and earmarks, not just stretching the truth but lying.  or the fact that her background as governor is replete with instances of her using the power of her office to punish those she dislikes, and appointing acquaintances and classmates to positions they are completely unqualified for.  meanwhile she smiles and waves, tosses off glib cliches, and stays as far away from the press as they can keep her.  we elected someone like  this eight years ago.  we didn't learn our lesson?

It shouldn't even matter if she's lying or telling the truth about that stuff.  She's clearly not qualified for the VP job either way.  The polls are reflecting just a brief "15 minute" fascination before reality sets in and Obama pulls away and wins handily.

I have to believe that.

"15 minute" fascination

Nailed it Bruce. I'm still a little in awe that Palin caught on in the first place. I thought she & McCain would have been laughed out of the race.

This fanfare will mellow out, then fade. If it doesn't, then America deserves whatever it gets...again.

Where do you think you live? France?

oh and again! score!

biden on the today show this morning.  the new game should be "where's sarah".

sure, this is important.  let's not talk about the fact that palin keeps lying about the bridge to nowhere...

And now there's another bridge story connected to Caribou Barbie:

Palin supports $600 million 'other' bridge project

Tuesday, September 16, 2008

By GARANCE BURKE, Associated Press Writer

ANCHORAGE, Alaska —  Gov. Sarah Palin may eventually have said "no thanks" to a federally funded Bridge to Nowhere.

But a bridge to her hometown of Wasilla, that's a different story.

A $600 million bridge and highway project to link Alaska's largest city to Palin's town of 7,000 residents is moving full speed ahead, despite concerns the bridge could worsen some commuting and threaten a population of beluga whales.

Local officials already have spent $42 million on plans to route traffic across the Knik Arm inlet, a narrow finger of water extending roughly 25 miles northeast of Anchorage toward Wasilla. The proposal exists thanks to an earmark request by Republican Rep. Don Young, whose son-in-law has a small stake in property near the bridge's proposed western span.

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http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2008Sep16/0,4670,PalinBridgetoWasilla,00.html

Ridiculous item #1; 

That any politician, once elected and constantly being told how important they are to all of us, can connect with anyone outside of their staff or spokespeople.

Ridiculous item #2; 

That this dimwitted reporter would waste airtime opining on Biden's dapper dressing style.

Most ridiculous item; 

That MMFA would actually search out the price of French cuffs, from JC Penney nonetheless.

Nope, it still gets even more ridiculous...

MMFA neglets to mention that there's a $7.51 discount on each French cuff if you buy more than one.

but don't all the shirts come with at least two cuffs?

Now that's a little more like the Tommy I grew up here with! ;)

I think its hilarious MMFA looked it up and I am glad they did.  Did you know that you could 13 1/3 sets of French cuffs for one pair of McCain's shoes ;)?

Man, what's next?

But what about with Penny's volume discount?

Most ridiculous item;

That MMFA would actually search out the price of French cuffs, from JC Penney nonetheless.

Haha, yeah ridiculous; but not the most ridiculous.

I think the *most* ridiculous aspect of this complaint is MMFA using that pricing as some sort of argument and not considering how unprofessional it sounds.

Note to MMFA editorial staff: The French cuffs were called out as being representative of the privileged - elite. The fact that a ‘french cuff’ can be purchased for $37 dollars is totally orthogonal to the topic at hand and just plain silly. I.e., it was a lame argument.

Lame = anything Maxi-pad says...

Orthogonal?  I think you mean tangential.

I think its trapazoidal. Or one of those other big words only smarty pants elites know.

I think he might have meant obtuse from his phrasiology which of course means his entire diatribe is circumloucutious as it has nothing to do with the topic and struck me as a dicotome folded into a puzzel wraped in an enigma and engulfed in a conundrum.

God! I can't sepll

Do you seriously think most working class men would notice what Joe Biden is wearing, other than that he is dressed in a suit? Or do you think these voters notice that Joe Biden is wearing a spread collar and not a button down collar? Do you think they notice if his suit is a two-button or three-button model. Single vent or double vent? Or no vent at all? Do you seriously believe Joe Biden's choice of cuffs has any impact on voters? 

i think most working class guys are too worried about losing their house to pay any attention to french cuffs. or shoes. or hair...or any other thing

Max.....................MAX......

Oh................ there you are!!

You never answered my question to you from one of the other threads over this last weekend.........

How much rent do your parents make you pay for living in their basement??

I am making a bet it is a crawl space or an attic. I know it is someplace where the aroma of advanced necrosis of neurons and dendrites wafting about, can't be dedected by people with fully functional frontal lobes. I know one thing for sure, after I read that post my smell card in my tower caught fire. Now I have to go to the computer store which is orthogonal to a very busy thoroughfare.

I.e., it was a lame argument.

And if anyone around here known lame arguments, it's Max Dharma.  He maked scads of them every day.

(Hey - I just realized something.  You never see Max Dharma, Proud Conservative, Point of View, Rino Hunter, and Another American post to the same thread.  Could they all be the same person?  You decide....)

"You never see Max Dharma, Proud Conservative, Point of View, Rino Hunter, and Another American... "

PC, Pointy and AA are pains in my ass, but I'm pretty sure they've kept the same name over the years.

RINO disappears for long stretches, but a lot of trolls appear and seem to be using the same style that he does.

Max on the other hand might be one of our guys who change names like most people change socks. All of his past lives seem to blend together and I can't quite place his new persona to any old trolls. But I'm pretty sure he's had a lot of different lives.

No one has had more identities than this Skittle or Skeetleandalotofdigits guy who's been trolling for the last few weeks. I'm pretty sure he's Scienceguy/Columbus and maybe even Dr.Emmerick and Col.RoyCampbell from a long way back.

Max used to be Science101. He was probably booted because he never understood Truth101.

What about John McCain's $500 Italian loafers? Joe Biden reprotedly has a net worth of about $150,000. What is McCain's net worth?

If that's true it wouldn't be a positive for Biden.  Can't he manage his finances or something?

That is almost impossible that he would be worth that little at his age.

Perhaps Joe Biden hasn't devoted his life to making money...

McCain didn't either. He devoted his life to leaving his first wife because in times of family strife McCain prefers mob life.

The GOP or the mob mob?

Biden spent millions on diamond and gold cuff links for those french cuffs.

"The GOP or the mob mob?"

Hard to tell the difference anymore between the two!

 

Or he spent it as fast as he made it ;-)

He's been a Senator for quite some time, I know that much.

Yeah, and Senators don't make that much money, and it costs quite a bit to be Senator, and raise several children from infancy to adulthood, and commute home every day. He had two kids that went to college, and he took out loans to pay for their education!

His salary? Pretty low by most standards for a professional in the job for decades. His home? Bought in 1975, worth a lot now, maybe close to a Million, so it came with a hefty mortgage payment he still hasn't paid off - probably mortgaged it to finance his run for President 2 decades ago. He's paid between $35,000 and $50,000 in mortgage interest payments in the last 10 years!

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/12/politics/horserace/entry4445194.shtml

palin has made ten times as much selling moose pelts and having rocky mountain moose oyster BBQ's

Yes, I understand.  In the last ten years, according to your link the Biden family has earned "only" approximately 2.4 million dollars.

That's not a lot of money.

If you were serious, you'd be right - it's not a lot of money. He's paid a ton for college and mortgage payments, and he's got two jobs and his wife has one job.

He doesn't make a lot of money considering all the years he's been at the same job. An engineer, scientist, doctor or lawyer doing the same job for 30 years would make a lot more than what he makes.

You sound like a Republican.  Good for you.

Unfortunately for Biden, his salary puts him smack dab in the targeted Obama tax increases.  You know, the ones targeting the rich? 

Oops.

Or he hasn't used Charley Rangel as a Financial Advisor.

Are you talking about Mr. Cindy McCain? He's worth hundreds of millions, or so I heard.

What is McCain's net worth?

Counting Cindy's money, about $100 million.

Not counting Cindy's money, about 39 cents.

John McCain doesn't wear French cuffs...he wears Freedom cuffs like any proud American should.  ;>)

They wear them freedom cuffs in West Virginia don't they? ;-)

Cuffs get in the way when hunting possum...  ;>)

tssss listen to you clinging to guns and religion like that...i'm gettin' me some mo' moonshine

cindy does NOT want Mickey c to wear freedom pants. She hates jerky.

Whatever the opposite of freedom cuffs is, I'd like to see Dick Cheney model them.

I think they're called shackles...

Maybe karl pigrove and dick cheatme can be cell buds. Who would be the bottom? (bunk that is)

Good one King.

You know as much as I'd hate to see time/money spent going after Cheney, Bush & other neocons, I still would get a lot of satisfaction seeing these guys led off in cuffs.

Jan 1993, Clinton takes office.  DJIA around 3450

Jan 2001, Bush takes office from Clinton,  DJIA around 11,000

Sept 2008, nearing end of Bush in office, DJIA around 11,000

McCain/Palin economics, same as GWB's.

Any questions?

So what's your point?  That Clinton did or did not wear French cuffs, or what?

was monica kind of like polish/french? or?

How many billionairs were created in the interm?

Sarah Palin had a tanning bed installed in the governor's mansion. How working class is that?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/15/palin-installed-tanning-b_n_126625.html

Since she spends so little time at the governor's mansion, and collecting her per diem, I wonder if she has a second tanning bed at her private home.

Maybe Gramps should give her a little talk about Melanoma.

Gramps was never a beauty queen...  ;>)

Gramps was never a beauty queen...  ;>)

Maybe Princess Palin will give a tanning machine to Sen. McCain as a birthday present.

Ooh my little pretty one, pretty one.
When you gonna worry 'bout, Mel-a-no-ma?
Ooh you make my campaign hum, my campaign hum.
Guns a blazin' on the trail, Mel-a-no-ma?
Never gonna stop, give it up.
Such a dirty mind. Always get it up for the touch
of the upper class. Mel mel mel a yi woo. M M M Mel-a-no-ma...

Sung to the tune of My Sharona?

Snoop, my bud, my pal, I'm getting a tad worried about you ;-)

NoooOOooOOooooo! I can take that criticism from anyone but you! ;)

But yeah, the idea came to me that quick. Snoopy brain: My Shirona = 4 syllables. Melanoma = 4 syllables. Must... make... musical parody!

I don't know if I could ever forgive Biden for wearing french cuffs. What kind of an American DOES something like that?

FRENCH CUFFS!

Just THINK of it!

And after what the French did to us! In an act violent betrayal they... they... er... uhhhhh... um, a little help here, someone? What exactly did the French do to us again? Well, no matter. It was certainly pretty bad, whatever the hell it might have been.

They helped make us free to choose for ourselves. The bastids!

"What exactly did the French do to us again? Well, no matter. It was certainly pretty bad, whatever the hell it might have been." - Mescal

Well, there was that Statue of Liberty thing.  And they clearly saw us coming when they proposed The Louisiana Purchase.

i thought we sent that rusty old thing back to them...

with all french fries.

It's just that they can't be good real Americans.

Did they help us win the Revolutionary war or sometrivial thing like that? When they invented that kissing thing it really agitated the puritans and what we have know is a residual hatred of them. Not to mention that funky tasting grape juice they dumped on our shores. How rude and crude can a country be. They should be more like us and spread freedom and democracy where it is not wanted. Is it possible bush thinks in french while speaking "English"?

If the voters are gonna have problems with the french cuffs, what will they think about the french letters?

Somewhat OT, but earlier today I sent MMFA a post about push polling in Fla., it targeted Jewish voters and wanted to know if they would change their mind if they knew Obama gave millions to the PLO. We'll see if MMFA posts it here, but in the meantime, with oil at $97 a barrel, I thought y'all would find this new line of attack about oil "dependance" quite humorous (courtesy of think progress)...

George Allen: ‘Americans are not addicted to oil, they’re addicted to freedom.’

Today on Laura Ingraham’s radio show, former Virgina governor George Allen (R) scoffed at claims that Americans are addicted to oil, calling it “an elitist point of view.” Allen insisted it was freedom, not oil, that Americans were actually addicted to:

ALLEN: I love that statement, America is addicted to oil. What an elitist point of view. Americans are not addicted to oil. Americans are addicted to freedom — the freedom and liberty to move where and when we want.

His loss to Webb was one of the highlights of 2006.  But just like Santorum and Delay, he still gets to go on the air to spout is fascist drivel.

Kind of like the RNC crowd chanting USA USA!  Can't we all just agree that everyone loves our country and move on to making it better!

I wish, but Maxi-pad says otherwise. He thinks we are at fault.

What a relief!!!!!!!!!!!!! I feel sooooooooooo  much better about gas prices now. I can now fill my tank with water. I just had an intervention with my car and am withdrawing it from gas, COLD TURKEY. Thanks allen. I thought you were a dim bulb. allen and palin 2008

Sounds like your car is a reformed elitist!  I'm surprised you didn't switch to running it on arugula.  I just filled my tank with 15 gallons of freedom, and it's purring like a kitten. 

I installed an espresso machine after the muffler and have a cup despenser hanging from the tail pipe. I am looking for investors. Write suggestions on the back of a $100 bill and send them to me c/o MMFA. Have not slept in a week!

the freedom to shop at the walmart of our choice. the freedom to choose between Target and Walmart.

My freedom mileage doesn't seem to be as good as it used to be.

My freedom mileage doesn't seem to be as good as it used to be.

Those are FPA (Freedom Protection Agency) estimates - your freedom mileage may vary.

I wonder if Jon came up with this on his own or he was handed a script? With the Market crashing 500 points, the financial markets flaming out, and McCain making statements about how well the Economy is doing, Jon comes up with this?

What a failure our media has become. 

Hey, stop with the economy already, Sluggo. There'smore important things that we could be talking about. Hey, hey... look over here... shiney new french cuffs being worn by those elitist Democrats. See how pretty? Listen to how the rattle when you shake them.

Dude, get your proirities straight!

Doesn't Mr. Biden know that in order to connect, he must wear bib overalls (OshKosh, B'gosh), with a Red hankychief stuffed almost entirely in a rear pocket, and a big wad of "baccy" in his cheek.  What kind of ordinary person don't know that.  What an Elitist he is!!!!!

Whatta surprise, it's Oscar the Grouch, MMFA's answer to Mr. Blackwell.I think you underestimate the average American in suggesting that bumpkin get-up is necessary to connect with Joe Lunchbucket.

As per my usual routine, Sunday evening on the way home from dinner, I had my driver take a detour through the "less motivated" part of town. The pockets of my jodhpurs stuffed with ha'penny coins and my tinted rear window opened a crack, I made the connection between "providing class" and "unashed others", flinging coins playfully into the gutter as we sped by.

Occasionally, one of the beneficiaries would glance up in mid-dive, attracted by the glint of my monocle through the small opening of my window, and for a moment as they dove for the coins, we would make eye contact. It was a feeling of brotherhood and shared dreams every time.

Is this your "Bonfire of the Vanities" story?  I love that one.

Tell us again about the part where you accidentally ventured into Thousand Oaks and ran over that lady who was waiting for her labradoodle to poop...

I remember well that coin you launched from that puffy right hand of yours. After the retina transplant from the glint ( I now know why monocles were outlawed)  and the dizzy spells from the concussion I received from the curb ( I did manage to catch the coin after the first bounce) I invested that money in exotic wood and now sell my wood work to galleries all over the country. If it had not been for you I would still be pushing that shooping cart around the lower east west side of 999 Oaks. Thanks again for your generosity.

Oscar

A red hanky chief would indicate that Obama is a member of the Bloods.

A blue hanky chief would indicate that he is a member of the Crips.

A GREEN hanky chief, however... especially a silk one... would indicate that Obama was a member of a Wall Street investment banking firm, and could therefore be trusted by the voters, since they've kept our economic fundamentals so solid.

If you don't believe me, then just ask Republican presidential candidate Herbert Hoover.

McCain... I meant to say Republican presidential candidate John McCain.

Damn it to hell!!!

First, Obama was not mentioned in my post.  Second, us backwoods hicks, clinging to our guns and religion, wouldn't recognize a silk hanky, but the bib overalls (OshKosh, B'Gosh) would be a hit here.

Decker also questioned Sen. Barack Obama's ability to connect with voters when he stated, in reference to Obama's bowling score during a March 29 campaign stop at Pleasant Valley Lanes in Altoona, Pennsylvania: "You know, this cuts to 'is this person real? Do they connect with me as a voter?' You know, for someone who's in a bowling league in northeast central Pennsylvania, in Scranton and Wilkes-Barre, they can't identify with someone getting a 37 over seven frames

 Obama is left handed. I work with a left-handed bowler. Did you know that they use left-handed bowling balls? I didn't. Obama is quite an athlete. Do we know if they gave him a right-handed bowling ball? The finger holes are spaced differently and obviously the bowler's entire motion is different bowling left-handed.

Well, finding out that Joe Biden wears french cuffs has completely changed my politics! I've seamed the error of my ways.

Thank God and all the protected polar bears in Alaska it is not too late for me to register as a republican and turn this bus around. I don't care anymore if the republicans stole a couple of presidential elections, lied the country into a bogus war in Iraq and mired us there while failing to nab OBL who they left out loose to keep plotting against us, while scoffing at the constitution. I don't really mind that the republicans have taken over the airwaves and reduced political coverage to hateful vicious smears. French cuffs deserve no better, ne c’est pas? I don't even care that all the banks are closing, hell, we can get more banks!

Vote Palin/McCain! and just say no to french cuffs! (and yes to cool designer eye-glasses)

When french cuffs are outlawed, how will we play "Gendarme et le belle de nuit?"  Zip ties tend to be such mood killers.

I think you should give the subject a little more consideration... 

When french cuffs are outlawed, only outlaws will wear french cuffs.

Then it will be easy to spot the drug dealers. It is such a crap shoot right now. cindy will be so happy to hear this as procuring Vicodins and Percocettes will be a snap and she wont have to bug the hell out of limpbahahaha which will allow him to further educate the masses on political nuance.

I have shirts with 'French cuffs.' They're my father's. Along with cufflinks.

I also know how to tie a Windsor knot and even know how to tie a bow tie.

French cuffs are neither expensive nor exotic. My father was a union screenprinter, but he put shoetrees in his shoes and three-tip-folded a handkerchief in his vest pocket when he went to church.

It's not an elite thing. It's a generational thing.

(You'll have to pardon me--suddenly I see my dad putting on his garters (from the days before elastic-topped socks and buffing his Florsheim wing-tips and applying his Wildroot hair oil (just a little) and folding down his french cuffs to slide in the monogrammed cufflinks. He's been dead 17 years.)

There was a time when everybody know those rituals of male grooming, rich or poor. It was simply required.

(You'll have to pardon me--suddenly I see my dad putting on his garters (from the days before elastic-topped socks and buffing his Florsheim wing-tips and applying his Wildroot hair oil (just a little) and folding down his french cuffs to slide in the monogrammed cufflinks. He's been dead 17 years.)

That's OK - reading your post briught back images of my own father doing an almost identical ritual.  He was a welder/maintenance mechanic during the week, but when we were young he always dressed up for church.  And he died in 1991, too.

One thing he wore almost every sunday was the tie bar he got from Curtiss-Wright for 15 years of service welding their propellers.  He got it in the mail the week after they laid him off in the Late '50s as jets became more popular and the demand for propellers dropped.

I lost my father a year ago. Sweet Memories are all we have left.

OH, FOR ALL THAT IS HOLY!!! I grew up in PA in a small town just outside Scranton, too, and work in Philly now. A lot of us wear french cuffs from Sears, Target, JC Penny and KMART!!! OMG

And these monogrammed stainless steel cuff links are sold for $39.00 at Wal-Mart......

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10072782

You elitist snob. Don't they make bib overalls with french cuffs? Calvin Kline will probably make a bundle off this concept. You heard it here first! Tommy midlefinger could beat him to the punch however.

You may call 'em French Cuffs, but around here we call 'em bungie cords.

If Biden wasn't wearing a suit they'd attack him for that.  This is ridiculous but par for the course.

Its a good thing those suits are Janet Reno handmedowns or he WOULD catch 7 kinds of hell

I only now of one kind of hell.

McCain as President.

The rest are all derivatives.