maybe it was unconscious, but it was a deliberate

Which is it Karl?  Is your unconscious self outing your deliberate lying self?

Oh, I agree it was deliberate but it wasn't directed at Palin, it was aimed at Karl "Porky Pig" Rove. No amount of lipstick can cover his career.

All I can say to Karl is don't go white water rafting north Georgia..

Deliberate or unconscious; Obama was totally unable to stitch together the words to a 6th grade cliché .

When Gov. Sarah Palin used the line, it was effective and resonated with America; when Obama used it, it was awkward, barely made sense and offended people's sensibilities.

I doubt Obama was making a slap at Gov. Sarah Palin because if he were, I'm assuming he would have rehearsed it beyond a burbling.

"Resonated with america?"  A bit grandiose, aren't ya.  You can put falsies on, but you're still a boob.

Obama used the correct phrase, just the way McCain did earlier in the year.

It's good to know that "pit bull with lipstick" has always been a popular concept with sixth-graders, though.  That says a lot about the intellectual level of Palin and her fans.

Nice work there. 

This lipstick / pig thing is pure hogwash. and everybody knows that hogwash is rove's bath water.

Somebody festooned you with lipstick ?

So you have no problem with a sitting president who has made a new version of English all by himself, Bushonics?  Rhetoric aside, what do you make of Fox *news* constantly having Rove as a lying commentator?  Do you wonder why Fox *newscasters* do not correct him on his lies?  Do you wonder why they even consider Rove some fountain of wisdom?  I do, and the answer is Fox and Rove are part of the misinformation highway that has led this country straight down to one of Dante's circles of hell. 

and Hitler will then turn him into one of his "bitches" just like rove has done with inshannity and oreally. Then Hell will be a TV channel owned by CNN

Um.......Max Pharma.... or whatever your screen name is now.....

I realize that you must enjoy coming in here at MMfA to spout off your drivel and say your little rightwing snipets of stupid as if you believe that you have an intellect worthy of this site.... but I'm curious.....

How much rent do your parents make you pay for living in their basement??

Ok,

Here are my questions for those who laud Sarah Palin and have been decrying this lipstick moment and other criticism as some sort of "sexism"

1)  What if Palin was a man?  What if the Republicans have nominated an enthusiastic young man who advocated against abortion in cases of rape and incest?  What if the Republicans had nominated a man who was in the middle of an ethics investigation in his home state?  Would McCain be running ads saying that Obama was "disrepectful?"  What if McCain would have nominated a man who was held up as having foreign policy experience because Alaska is close to Russia?

2) Would the same philosophies that Palin has expressed resonate as well coming from a man?  Would independents be flocking to a man who claimed he said no to the bridge to nowhere, but kept the money?

Just curious as to your thoughts.....

Max -

Do you have to work hard at being so stupid, or does it just come naturally?

George Washington, had he been alive today, would have this Karl traitor Rove guy hung for treason. This is the same as gangs, except they were suits and drive Jaguars.

I have to apologize to the Republicans.

For years, I've been applying F. Scott Fitzgerald's description of an intelligent person as being the one with the ability to hold two conflicting ideas in their head at the same time, to the Republicans.

They've always failed this test, miserably.

Now I find that they're able to unconsciously do deliberate acts.

Boy, now I feel dumb.

Its one of those Zen paradoxes that helps you become wiser.

Or something.

The UCLA Molecular Biology Institute has determined from radiography scans that Sarah Palin's body is exactly balanced at a line which bisects horizontally at her navel, allowing her to lie for hours on end across a branch in a moose blind.

Wow - Thanks for that! Because we were wondering...

And did Tina Fey nail that, or what?

 

Wait just a doggone minute:

I thought that was Sarah Palin playing Tina Fey... 

palin in real life is played by Shak O"neil and karl rove is played by miss Piggy and McC is played by a cadaver.

Oh.  And I thought it just allowed her to lie for hours on end.

Boy, now I feel dumb.

As you should.

Liberals are great at this lofty rhetoric: " able to unconsciously do deliberate acts. "

What, .. lol.

Impress your foolish peers, but continue to embarrass your party.

May I politely suggest that you wander down to the local Mall-Wart and pick up a decently priced book?  And read it?  Maybe then, you too, will be able to deliver lofty rhetoric.  

May I suggest "My pet Goat"? To babybush, that book is pornography. After he read "My Pet Goat", babybush went to the reference section of the libray to check out a book on WOOD.

Rove:Well, first of all, I do think that the lipstick remark was an inappropriate and maybe it was unconscious, but it was a deliberate slap at Governor Palin.

It was obviously a reference to that.  It's smarter to read the article, then comment. 

What, .. lol.- Max Dharma

You know, Max, if you wingnuts just stopped there, with the "lol", people wouldn't know that the comment you're "lol"ing at went right over your head.You always screw up by going into more detail, and proving that you didn't get the joke.

Most would probabaly assume you were as confused as ever, but you'd at least have that plausible deniability that you Republican women demand of your husbands.

We have a saying in New Jersey Max.

Bite Me!

Hey maxi-pad, you may want to go back to your old M.O. and only post on threads 36 hours or more old. That way you will receive way less responses to your intellectually lazy drivel and you can walk away feeling like you actually won an argument.

Any person with a brain can see that what Obama said was a sneek jab at Palin. And he might think thats its funny but a couple more stupid jokes like that and he's going to piss women off alot. Sarah Palin was the best possible pick for the republicans, and Obama's going to witness that first hand.

1)Palin was not the topic when Obama made the remark

2)Obama used the phrase before Palin was on the scene as well

3)McCain used the phrase in reference to Hillary's policies

4)It's an old saying 

Thanks for playing. 

"The McCain campaign said Governor Palin opposed the Bridge to Nowhere, but now we know she supported it. They said she didn't seek earmarks, but now we know she hired a lobbyist to get millions in pork for her town and her state. They said she visited Iraq, but today we learned that she only stopped at the border. Americans are starting to wonder, is there anything the McCain campaign isn't lying about?"

Obama should turn that into a commercial...

Seriously, who gives a flying f**k what KKKarl thinks or says anymore? The Repuglicans are so done on November 4th. Then hopfully, we can start crimminal and war crimes proceedings against the whole filty bunch of them.

Unfortunately, there are a lot of cretins that DO care a lot about what this pigrove says. These clueless rightwingnutcakes believe the gutteral utterances of inshannity, oreally, babybush, and the other rightwing propagandists. The truth is something to be avoided by these "people" and they will vote for McC. Bring on the debates. When I see and hear pigrove, I think of Hittler and his henchmen.

STOP PICKING ON KARL ROVE!!!

 

You know his acolytes have only been running McCain's campaign since the end of August!! ;-}

 

BTW, how sleezy is your campaign getting if KARL ROVE says you've gone too far on Foxnews?!?!?!?!?!?

Speaking of going too far:  A star on her high school track team, Sarah Palin set the high school record and won the Alaska state title in the women's 1500 meters, even despite the discovery afterwards that she had mistakenly run an extra lap!

You forgot to mention she was running backwards with a pocket full of rocky mountain moose oysters.

I know MMFA is just doing their job but "Rove advances falsehoods" is much like "the sun came up this morning"

or like "Rove said"

LIPSTICKGATE:

A sinister Obama HUSSIEN plot to destroy America through vicious sexist attacks.  The compliant traiterous liberal media along with Democratic party operatives, working in conjuntion with the Al Quieda of the Midwest - Southside Chicago Branch, have attacked Mrs Palin by accusing her of being a beauty product used to disquise a smelly farm animal. 

Fortunately this plot was uncovered and brought to light.  Palin, the trooper that she is, has remained stedfast, telling voters that such attacks are nothing to her, living so close to Russia for all these years. 

So far Obama has denied the charges, claiming that the pig was Mccain's attempt to make his record as a reformer look good.  This is obviously a lie since Obama is really a Muslim terrorist who must avoid pork at all cost.

Sarcanol off

 

  EB

         CAN YOU READ?

Sure I can read.  That was an attempt to get into the mind of someone who actually takes all this lipstick stuff seriously, like some in our media seem to want to do.

Before she became successful through hard work and talents of seemingly divine origin, Sarah Palin had too little money to afford make-up, and devised her own line of cosmetics formulated from berries, and native plants, and minerals.  Her line of lipsticks singularly forced Mary Kay cosmetics into such financial difficulties that the company to close their stores, and begin their current door-to-door marketing campaign.

Ok now, put the pipe down and step away from the pipe. Take a deep breath of fresh air and keep the following in mind: palin purchased all of her cosmetics from Eskimo yard sales. Or so it would seem. Perhaps I need new glasses.

And she tested all her lipstick products on baby seals - just before she clubbed them to death...

As long as we're talking about clubs here, it's a little known fact that Sarah Fey...I'm sorry, I mean Tina Palin shot a third round 63 in the Greater Seward Invitational, even after breaking her 9-iron on a hibernating arctic mamba* hidden by the snow.  She finished second to "Snow Leopard" Woods.

*(the deadly snake, upon being awakened by the blow, was quickly killed, skinned and eaten after cooking it over the warm engine of her golf-doo). 

I lived in Tempe Az for four years. Unlike you, I was fearful of going on Indian reservations to pick buttons off of cacti. just funnin w/ya. I am going to send her a lifetime pass to cretinism museum. When she is older, she can gaze upon the wax likeness of Mickey C and wonder what might have been. I am giving her a new nickname: UPS. After all she comes from the oposite side of reality.

I guess some can't read your 'sarcanol off' comment. LOL

 sorry for the jab

Talk about bitter, redstate sure is making hay about the comment. To hear them tell it, they know exactly what liberals think. They also claim democrats never apologize for anything. That's some projection on their part! Now to ruin y'all's day and post their article, amazingly titled Piggish Dem crowds now the party leaders [updated re vile 911 Dem pigs] ...

I don’t presume to know if Barack Obama was referring to Sarah Palin with his “lipstick on a pig” remark. But only a fool would deny that the wildly cheering crowd of Democrats to whom he was speaking didn’t presume that he was so referring to Sarah’s “pit bull” joke in her speech to the RNC last week.

This is especially so given the behavior of past Democrat gatherings:

1) The wildly cheering congregation of Democrats at the Wellstone Memorial Service that was turned into a raucous political rally in which Republican Senators attending to pay respects to their fallen colleague were booed by the crowd.

“If one ceases to believe in God, one doesn’t believe in nothing. One believes in anything.” – Chesterton

They will make politics their religion in which anything goes for the cause. See Marx.

2) Yet, many of those Democrats that do portend to believe in God are not immune to vile behavior sold on CD’s. Witness the behavior of the Congregation at Rev. Wright’s church, the one of the 20-year Obama parked butt. Obama can deny he ever heard any offending words from Wright’s lips about hated Whitey America all he wants, but such denials can’t drown out the din of his pew-parked butt nor the cheers of his beloved church family.

3) And finally, do you all remember the reaction of the crowd of Democrats hearing Hillary say that she was qualified to be President because she had experience in dealing with “bad men”? Hillary may not have been consciously referring to her husband, but the crowd presumed so.

After 18 years in the morally and intellectually bankrupt organization known as the Democrat Party, I knew my die was cast to eventually leave the party (which I did in 2000) one day when I saw myself and Bill Clinton as frontmen for the kooks in 1998. I stayed in the party for years due to the good people still in the party and the hope that I could help steer it back to JFK liberalism and away from its increasing hostility to people of faith.

I finally could not abide being associated with that vile creature any longer. I look back now and see my early years as a useful idiot for a party that serves the interests of no American citizen.

Given the behavior of recent Democrat Party crowds, I have to conclude that the number of people with any shame is decreasing exponentially.

Who knows what The Stammering One meant? He only puts two coherent sentences together when reading a script. But the Democrats in the crowds have memorized their vile script over many years. And if they forget them the DailyKos kids will remind them of General Betrayus.

No missing what they think.

[update re Biden/Dem crowd piggish on 911]

This line from an AP story in the Charlotte Observer on 9/11/08:

Seven years means we are far enough away that Sen. Joe Biden can joke in a Democratic debate that former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani only mentions three things in a sentence, "a noun and a verb and 9/11," and bring down the house.

The liberal "we", ain't the same as We the People. I have warned never to mistake Democratic primary (and especially caucus) voters for insights into the American electorate. Same goes for an "we" that thinks Biden's vile joke is funny. Within hours these types thought 911 eligible for the butt of vile jokes.

Have I mentioned recently how vile the Democrat Party is? And not just their leaders and activists, but also those that laugh at vileness and those that remain silent and don't denounce it.

Much like all but Joe Lieberman and the silence in the face of the vile lie that Bush lied or mislead us into war. I said all along they would answer for that and it looks like they will answer with an Obama landslide loss and the return of an unapologetic, unabashed Reaganite to a seat of Power:

This time its a woman.

VP Palin and the shattering, not of glass ceilings, but rather of the cracked floor upon which those that tried to lynch Clarence Thomas and are now trying again in vain to lynch Palin.

This time the maddening pigs will fall so low that ants will urinate on them.

Yes indeed, the Repubs are now playing the victim role -- poor sad creatures they are.  Are we to believe that they believe that sexism really exists?  I thought that was something only liberals whined about.  I thought liberals were the ones that wallowed in their victimhood as poor wounded miserable excuse factories.

Are we also to believe that they now  see personal negative political strategies as morally indefensible?  I recall that president Clinton killed his friend and covered it up, then threatened our nation to the core with his Monica activities.  I recall that Al Gore was accused of saying he invented the internet, I remember John Kerry's "fake" purple hearts.  Will they now take all that back because they see the light.  With this lipstick business they seem just devistated.  They can't seem to believe that Obama could be so vicious.

Meanwhile Mccain's camp is blaming Obama for any negative campagning on their part.  The reason:  Obama has refused a series of joint town hall meatings.  Oh no!!!!! he has been victimized by Obama again.  Only this time he is not taking it laying down.  Mccain is going to get tough, er... negative.  Its difficult though with Obama and all that lipstick talk. 

Joint town hall meatings between Obama and McCain sounds disgusting.

Yes, I think we're all quite aware that Obama attends only joint saladings moderated by arugulators.

Obama quit smoking pot so it is a known fact he will not go to any JOINT get together. When McC does a town all meeting it is BYOB (which could also stand for bring your own beoch

Aren't "Joint meatings"  what Larry Craig was trying to line up in that bathroom?

You didn't hear about the new rule? Your opponent gets to lie with impunity if you won't go to town hall meetings with him.

I especially like how they do the "Godless Dems are capable of anything" routine and then follow it up with an example of what's wrong with religion.

anything to avoid talking about the fact that she thinks she can deal with russia because you can actually see it from an island in alaska, or that she continues her fairy tale of "thanks, but no thanks" to congress, or the fact that she's run the state of alaska as her personal fiefdom, putting classmates in charge of state agencies. 

 

  SNOOPY

   I've read a lot of your posts, and agreed with most of your views, but didn't realize you were that down on the demo. party. That's your choice, but are you saying Bush didn't lie or mislead us into war?

I believe he was quoting a conservative website, red state.

Down on the Dem party? ME??? I'm supporting Obama, and would have supported a joint Obama/Hillary ticket if Hillary had stuck to discussing issues and positions during the primaries. Believe me, I had to hold my nose and tried not wretching when I read that redstate post.

   i misread your post

I appreciate you doing the dirty work.  Like the work being done on this website, I think its important to know what these people are saying.  I have been holding my nose to the Rush Hannities and Wiener crowd for years.  It is frustrating to see these guys get so much air time without being challanged.  So much of what they say is competely and easily proven false, yet they get to frame and disseminate completely distorted and false memes continually and its amazing how many people are hooked into it. 

After the last 8 years and beyond (considering congress), we have witnessed destructive leadership.  It seems impossible to think that the ruling party would even have a chance.  However, when you observe how a large part of our electorate is conditioned, it starts to make sense in a very sad way.

Our current example is Palin.  I am sorry but there is nothing to admire beyond perhaps her personal life (which is not exactly unique).  Yet somehow we see a recharged Mccain  campaign.  It is almost like some kind of bizaar mass  halucination.  However once you consider how prepared so many of our citizens are for such a thing after years of being hannitised and dittoed, its not so suprising, just increadably pathetic.

The above goes to Snoopy!

Thanks, EB!

After putting lipstick on the pig, I wonder if those caring Reepers would try to put a purple band-aid on the poor pigs cheek? Everyone seems to forget how they dishonored ALL Purple Heart recipients with that nonsense during the 2004 Convention.

This might be a good time to bring another name out of the closet. This guy was a POW too, and went so far as to bash his own face against a stool while held captive so the Vietnamese couldn't use him for propoganda. He earned the congressional medal of honor and four silver stars, and once ran for VP of the US. His name? Admiral James Stockdale, who ran on Ross Perot's ticket. Remember how republicans savaged his service?

I saw this on You Tube:

McCain/Palin = Unstable/Unable

How about Gramps and Cramps in 2008? ;)

Beauty and the Beast?

Old Fish and a Pig....SURF AND TURF

I'm still fond of Mac & Cheescake.

(although considering how ageist and sexist "gramps and cramps" is, I can't help but like that one too, especially knowing that it will turn up on all the rightie blogs as an example of how ageist and sexist us libs are.  Hey, it might even get on O'Really...) 

Viagra and Midol 2008

Depends and Tampons 2008

Captured and raptured.

Ailin/Failin

Geezer and Teaser 08

Palin/McCain

Dyin' and Lyin'.

Or: Senile and Denial 2008

Liar/Liar

Shaky and Puddin 2008

From an old Burt Reynolds movie I just saw. Shaky puddin. I am still trying to figure out exactly what that means.

Methusapalooza.

Sock Puppet/Hulk.

This just in. Lint as a dietary fibre and of course,"HULK SMASH!"

The earths fate entered into the balance when Ms. Sarah was just going out to chop up a few biology texts when somehow her nieghboors Gamma Powered Salmon Smoker's (Pat Pending) door openned.

Will a cuticle remain unchewed? Will humanity survive? Will the earth remain intact? Will the hyperbole be played this year?

Barb once knitted a sock puppet out of naval lint. She then poured in a can of boiled brains and when it grew up ran against Gore. We know the rest of the story.......................

Karl Rove does actually look like a pig. Wanna instantly vomit? Picture Rove with lipstick on. Better yet, put Rove in full drag. ew

How am I supposed to get meat chunks out of my keyboard?

Remember boys and girls, criticizing George Bush's policies means you hate our troops and calling McCain's plan like a pig means you are calling Sarah Palin a pig.

Follow rove around and you will soon load your skip. Just wear a hazmat suit and have your olfactory glands removed

The only reason Rove is admitting McCain is a liar is because he sees the writing on the wall. He is using the occasion to try to make Obama’s ads look just as bad, but it won’t work. McCain has run nothing but Attack ads for months. Obama has exaggerated a couple of times, but his basic premises are true.
-As far as Obama’s ‘100 years’ ad, McCain did later reposition himself and say that the troops would not be on the front line. However, if McCain thinks we can stay in Iraq for 100 years without casualties, he doesn’t understand the difference between Japan, Korea, and the Middle East. Obama is right- a presence in Iraq for 100 years could only be a fighting presence. I have worked in the Middle East and I know the mentality we are dealing with there. There is no way Americans can continue to have a presence (as we have in in Korea and Germany and elsewhere) and not be attacked continually.
-As far as the ‘email’ ad, it has nothing to do with war injuries. McCain himself joked that he does not understand computers or the internet. True, he can’t raise his arms above his head: I don’t know about you, but my computer is not above my head when I’m working on it. The ad makes the valid point that McCain does not understand new communicative technology and doesn’t care to. You can agree or disagree about whether it will affect the presidency, but the ad itself is truthful.
McCain’s ads on the other hand, are out and out lies. What’s the matter Carl, getting worried?

 ps, 'maybe it was unconscious, but it was deliberate'??  You're losing it, Carl.

While I admire all of you who post at MMFA (well...most), and am in awe of your real intelligence, there is one dangerous mistake you all make: you tend to insult or otherwise ridicule Karl Rove. It is a flaw in intelligent (elitist) people to ignore or speak down to those less gifted. Karl Rove has based his entire career in understanding morons and to use that understanding to manipulate their huge numbers into doing his bidding. If anyone is as expert as Karl at doing this I have failed to find him (or her). He has the talent to make knee-jerk individuals jerk BOTH knees at the same time. Why do you think Fox "News" hired him? John McCain's creepy smile negated whatever sarcasms directed toward his rival, but Karl has found his acolyte in Sara Palin. She is the perfect female counterpart to Karl Rove. She has, very quickly, found the secret of connecting with morons. She is so perfect that she could have been created by a committee of scientists. Together they are a formidable duo. They have both mastered the art of bullying. Karl's only flaw, as for as I can see, is his inability to be funny while lying. Ms. (or Mrs.) Palin has the delivery down pat. So all Karl has to do is repeat a lie over and over for his base to take it in and carry it over the goal line. Mrs. (Ms.) Palin's talent is in delivery and physical site gags (little grins and pursing the lips, etc.). A team made in heaven.

I thought everybody allready knew that. Rove was cloned from Joseph Goebbels. Same POS different day.

Self depricating?  He must be joking.