Hey. Tweety! If it is McCain's campaign doing the attacking, and the attack ads, that means that McCain is doing the attacking, and attack ads. Don't you see the "I'm John McCain and I approved this ad.." business? Matthews, you're an idiot. You can't separate McCain and his campaign, they are one in the same.

The pundits are getting desparate. Bill O blames Obama for poster comments on dailykos but McCain isn't responsible for his own campaign.

Exactly.

As long as you realize that neither can Obama be separated from his campaign or associations, I agree.

Associations are different than a campaign. As in, I know that you're just ready and willing to use the word Ayers or Wright in here. They don't work for Obama, never did work for Obama, and are not part of his campaign, and NOT part of his official message and or possible administration.

Obama and his campaign are one in the same, same as McCain and his campaign are one in the same. If you want to start talking about associations, we can roll out Keating, Hagee, Bush, and a bunch of other stuff to tie McCain to if you really want to play that stupid game.

Don't forget G. Gordon LIddy. He was one of John McCains best friends. In 1998 Liddy's home was a site of one of John McCains fund raisers. John was on his show in Nov 2007 and said "I am proud of you, I am proud of your family. Its always a pleasure to come on to your show." This information came from the Chicago Tribune May 4 2008. It was a commentary by Steve Chapman a member of the Tribune's Editorial Board. I think we all know about the infamous Liddy and what he is all about.

Terrible example. McCain didn't say that Obama called Palin a pig at all.

He did stand by his commercial that said Obama called her a pig:

"McCain stood by two of his campaign commercials — one which said Obama favored comprehensive sex education for kindergarten students and another that suggested Obama had called Palin a pig. Both are misleading and factually inaccurate."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jPs1uPji0DUTBoLSodadFKjoimWQD935BV3O0

HuffPo has the video.

And he stood by the ads when he was butchered by The View's panel today.

I heard a little of that on the radio today.  I'm hoping that Crooks and Liars will have the video up when I get to a computer where I can watch it.

Skewered.  He got skewered.  And I'll bet we don't see Caribou Barbie on The View any time soon.

Neon,

If its not on C&L, find it here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/12/mccain-grilled-on-the-vie_n_125972.html

"John McCain approved this message" and "John Mccain speaks for john McCain ". He is either in denial or in fact his memory is failing.

You have to wonder: if they consider that the "I'm so-and-so and I approved this message" tag at the end of their ads has the same validity as the constitution, why do the even bother to say it?

Obamas campaign claims mccain will outlaw abortion, The ad ignores congress and the supreme court. There are lies everywhere, so grow up

there is nothing to grow up. Either the candidate endorses an ad or he does not.

it happens on both sides does not change anything. 

Obamas campaign claims mccain will outlaw abortion (RRastro)

I hadn't heard that. Do you have a quote?

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/09/03/politics/horserace/entry4411301.shtml

It's not a lie to say that McCain will do something when it relies upon the other branches of government. Both campaigns, all campaigns, will say stuff like "Obama says he's raise taxes on people making over $250,000 a year." It's a given that he'll ONLY do that if Congress goes along and the courts don't object!

When desperate people try to then lie, like Rrastro did above, and say that the ad lies, when the ad didn't lie, they show their own desperation.

Oh, and the other point you made, that there are lies everywhere....

I call bull on that. It's not true that both sides are equally guilty by quantity or quality of the smears, lies and distortions. If you check out factcheck.org, for example, the scorn they heap on McCain's ads for the lies and distortions are not at all similar to the mild criticisms they've had for Obama's ads!

It's a dirty, rotten, lie to claim that both sides do it. Rrastro is just another dishonest punk for making that baseless claim.

'Personally' does not matter. He and his campaign's ads bear HIS legal responsibility.

CHRIS MATTHEWS IS SUCH A JOKE! There is no excuse for his being on television. There just isn't. Not anymore. Last night, when Rachel Maddow caught him in a contradicition or inconsistency (one that he apparently thought he could get away with) -- sorry, I do not remember what it was! -- he tried to hide his discomfort by feigning good humor: "Boy, you really do your homework. Great job!" (As in "I love it when you destroy my credibility?")

 

Really. What qualifies him to have his own show? What great insight does he bring? What penetrating analysis? What perceptive questions? What news is made? Not that I think Olbermann deserves $4 million per year, either... Rachel is already better than both of them! What utter nonsense to suggest that McCain has not personally approved each and every one of his stupid ads.

MATTHEWS: Look, I'm not getting into this fight. I do have a tremendous amount of faith in John McCain's integrity. He used to be on this show all the time. In fact, he's -- we did a big thing with him a couple months ago up at Villanova. I don't believe he would sit where you're sitting and call his opponent -- or say his opponent called his running mate a pig. I don't believe he'd say that.

THE DUCHESS: I quite agree with you. And the moral of that is: Be what you would seem to be, or if you'd like it put more simply: Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.

To those posters who keep saying McCain is a fine upstanding man of character............................

 

Newsmax July5, 2006:

 [...] " ......Indeed, senators joke among themselves about their collection of "McCain Notes" — apologies McCain sends after he has unleashed a tirade. The question on the minds of those who know him is whether a man who seems so out of control should have the authority to unleash nuclear weapons.

 

 

"I think he is not fit to be president," said former congressman LeBoutillier...." [..]

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[...] ".......But only a few news outlets, like the Phoenix New Times in Arizona and the National Journal, that ran an Associated Press story reporting McCain's 1998 joke suggesting that Chelsea Clinton was ugly and Janet Reno and Hillary Clinton were lesbians.

 

 

"Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly?" McCain said at a GOP fund-raiser in Washington. "Because Janet Reno is her father."

 

 

McCain apologized to the Clintons. But more recently, McCain said on Fox News, "You know, the French remind me a little bit of an aging actress of the 1940s who is still trying to dine out on her looks but doesn't have the face for it."

In part because he gives reporters access and charms them with his apparent openness, McCain gets good press...........[...]

 

 

Sorry for the wide spacing gaps....some articles have been crammed together even with a space, so I made two spaces and got this result. Oops!