she never ever used that phrase or anything close.  she just did not want alaska to have to pay for it.  she was alway for it if the federal government paid.

And she kept the federal money [thanks] that she was given for the bridge to nowhwere and spent it on the road leading to the bridge to nowhere [but no thanks].

Only saying she didn't want the bridge after the Congress had already cut the project.

I agree with this MMFA article.

Her shifting positions doesn't make her statement only a half-lie.

The fact that Sarah Palin never told Congress not to give Alaska money for the bridge makes her statement a complete lie.

And she's really stupid for telling it over and over again.  Goebbels never wore lipstick.

The woman lies with every breath she draws.  After she gave her name, and said she was hapy/proud/whatever to be the VP nominee, I don't think I've heard make ONE SINGLE TRUE STATEMENT.  Ever.  I've never heard such breathtaking dishonesty from a single human being.

I'm glad the lies are getting some air time.  I wish they were being a little tougher on her (I can't help thinking they would be if she were a Dem) but it's better than nothing which is pretty much what we've had up to this point.  NBC covered this last night as well and I they did say that Congress cancelled the requirement to use the money for the bridge but they only called Palin's remark "an exageration".

This women is enduring more hate than any other poltical figure who has ran for VP. It is quite amazing how much her enemies hate her because she is a woman.

By "hate" do you me "question"?

And lemme guess, people don't like Barack because he's black.

 

 

Are the American people really that shallow where the only thing they think about is a black President or a female Vice President?

This women is enduring more hate than any other poltical figure who has ran for VP. It is quite amazing how much her enemies hate her because she is a woman.

Wrong, Bob.  I guess you're not old enough to remember the battles that took place between the American People and GOP VP candidates Spiro Agnew and Dan Quayle.

And I don't believe that anyone here "hates" Caribou Barbie per se. We oppose her because she's a liar who is putting her personal ambition ahead of the needs of her children - especially her newborn with Down's syndrome.

I can't speak for others, but I will say that I don't hate Governor Palin because she's a woman. Instead, I hate everything she stands for becuase I'm against it. I'm actually a little relieved that she's such a hokey, amateurish Pinnochio, because finally a Repugnant has told such a gigantic, obvious lie that even the mainstream media can't ignore it.

Bob,

You are making quite a strong charge here.  Where is the "hate" for Palin that you reference? It seems to me that examining her statements on the bridge to nowhere are what we are supposed to do while evaluating a candidate.  Could you show me what you mean by "hate?"

hate seems to be all over especially from certain blogs like the Daily Kos.

Its disgraceful.

Grand Old Perverts

by georgia10

Tue Sep 09, 2008 at 07:24:33 PM PDT

In liveblogging Sarah Palin's acceptance speech, I noted that the ideal Republican candidate is someone who has the ability to lie without shame. Sarah Palin proved within minutes of her speech that she was well-qualified in that regard.  The latest McCain-Palin ad reaffirms that the modern Republican Party, barren of ideas and solutions, will effortlessly and shamelessly resort to depraved lies to win.

The latest barrel-scrapping effort from John McCain is an ad which states that Barack Obama wants to teach kindergartners about sex before they can read (see details and discussion here).

Barack Obama's response:

"It is shameful and downright perverse for the McCain campaign to use a bill that was written to protect young children from sexual predators as a recycled and discredited political attack against a father of two young girls – a position that his friend Mitt Romney also holds. Last week, John McCain told Time magazine he couldn’t define what honor was. Now we know why," says Obama spokesman Bill Burton in an emailed statement.

It is indeed a remarkably dishonorable act for John McCain to "approve this message."  There is no Vietnam scar deep enough and no POW flag large enough to mask the brazen ugliness of this unprincipled and deliberate lie. John McCain has used his five and half years in a cell three decades ago to shield off criticism of years' worth of typical Republican politics. No mantle of honor, though, can hide the hideousness of McCain's latest attack.

It is not so much that the ad is a lie. Lies, after all, are the  campaign currency of Pinocchio Palin and Mendacious MccCain, used to buy a news cycle there or low-information vote there. It is the type of lie that is presented that speaks more to John McCain's character than five years in a prison cell ever did.

The ad accuses Barack Obama, a father of two young girls, of voting to teach kindergartners about sex. In shorthand, it paints Obama as a sexual deviant, one who thinks it is entirely appropriate to teach your doe-eyed toddler about condoms and contraceptives. The legislation was aimed at teaching children how to avoid sexual predators, but as this campaign season has proven time and time again, a well-sourced fact will wither in the face of an oft-repeated lie that is coddled by the media and echoed on the airwaves as truth.

So, welcome to today's Republican Party, where facts are treated like an Rorschach inkblot test. Where the benign is viewed as perverse and the perverse is viewed as benign.

Through the prism of this inverted ethical philosophy, it's completely acceptable to laud a presidential candidate who thinks rape is just hilarious and to cheer on a vice-presidential candidate who was mayor of a town that charged victims for rape kits. It's a party where a congressman can state that naked prisoners stacked in a pyramid and tortured is nothing more than "hazing", where Senators on a D.C. madam's list still are welcomed into the GOP with open arms, and where Representatives soliciting 16 year old boys are allowed to resign rather than be kicked out of the party altogether. What turns the stomach of normal society is not merely tolerated here in the confines of Pervert Central, but it is fully accepted in this circus.  Here, above all, the abnormal is normal in the caucus of freaks.

But oh, the indignation!  When a Democrat tries to protect children from a world of Mark Foleys, he is painted as a sex-obsessed deviant.  When a party seeks to preserve choice, it's portrayed as wanting a society of one-night stands.  When rational science supports a vaccine to prevent cervical cancer, the GOP sees a potion for whores.

Yes, folks, it is Democrats who are obsessed with sex and who are insisting on reaching into your bedrooms and your bodies.  The Republicans? This Grand Old Party of pervert-protectors and sex monitors? This cadre of prudes who would rather have uninformed toddlers be molested, clueless teens knocked up, and uneducated Americans spreading STDs like fleas? Clearly, they are the honorable ones--the moral compass of our nation. They are nothing more than a parade of faux-Puritans marching back in time, waving banners of lies and singing smear chants along the way, twisting facts in the hot air that billows from their mouths, grinning stupidly from ear to ear, and reveling in their singular ability to beat the low drums of deceit without shame, day after day, until Election Day dawns.

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Bob,

Earlier you wrote this: "It is quite amazing how much her enemies hate her because she is a woman."  Then you linked a Kos post that doesn't reference Palin's gender once.  What are you trying to prove?

Did you go to the thinkprogress link about McCain joking about rape?  No mention of Palin.  Did you go to the hazing link?  No mention of Palin.  If you disagree with Kos, that's one thing, but you said that Palin was hated because she is a woman and have provided no evidence to support your theory.

I don't like Palin's lies.  I hate that the media won't do their freakin' jobs and report the lies that Palin tells.  Therefore, I am sexist.

Bob wrote:

>>hate seems to be all over especially from certain blogs like the Daily Kos.

God this is stupid! You are supposed to be showing that "hate for Palin." You linked to a blog that talks about McCain! Did  you think if you included a long link no one would read it and we would just think that you had offered real proof.

Really, Bob?  

This women is enduring more hate than any other poltical figure who has ran for VP. It is quite amazing how much her enemies hate her because she is a woman. - Bobthep

Crap.  She's been dishonest and a few people are calling her on it.  Not many, and not enough, but some--and she DID lie about the Bridge to Nowhere.  It is sexist to assume that any criticism of Palin is because she is a woman; it is, in fact, sexist to treat her any differently than we would any other candidate.

You mean by treating her like this?  

 

Scathing attack on Palin by Dem chair

I don't think this is the way to win....

So a Democratic state chairperson made the point that the main reason Palin was chosen was her anti-choice position.  I tend to agree with that idea, though gender was also a big factor.  No man with her resume would have been chosen.  There was no personal attack of Palin in her words.

You might also notice, that Democratic chair apologized for the phrasing of her criticism.

Palin wants to ban abortion even in the case of incest and rape.  She wants Creationism taught in public schools.  She left her town $22 million in debt and built a hockey rink rather than a sewage treatment plant.  She repeately inquired about banning books from the public library.  Her teenage daughter is pregnant and from what I understand her oldest child is in the army because a judge gave him a choice between the military and jail (but I haven't confirmed that).  She cut funding for teenage mothers and children with special needs (once again, and anti-abortion talking head caring about a fetus, but not about a baby).  She recently said that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have been costing the taxpayers too much money--but they are privately held companies not funded by the government until the bailout.  Palin is so utterly unqualified that the McCain campaign refused to allow her to speak to the press for days.  She does not even qualify as a lightweight.  She was chosen because she is a woman, is pretty, and attracts the fundamentalist xristian vote.  Figure this out.

bob, any comments on this particular story?

I don't like her because she repeats a false meme over and over and over about being against earmarks when she requested and received more earmarks per capita than any other state as governor and hired a lobbyist as a mayor.  I don't like her touting her fiscal conservatism when she rang up a huge debt for Wasila.  I don't like her touting ethics reform when she is in the middle of an ethics investigation that she misled her state about.  I don't like claiming she's a maverick and trying to interfere with that same investigation.  I don't like that she is against abortion for rape and incest even though Alaska is often near the top in rapes per capita:

http://www.hss.state.ak.us/dph/ipems/injury_prevention/akfvpp/bkgnd.htm

I don't like her because when she was mayor of Wasila, she thought it was ok to charge rape victims for their forensic exams:

http://www.frontiersman.com/articles/2000/05/23/news.txt

I don't like her because she thinks Iraq is a quest from God.  I don't like her because she slashed funding for teenage pregnancy.  I don't like her because she belittled community organizers.  I don't like her because while she charged windfall taxes against the oil companies in Alaska, she won't suggest it to McCain.  I don't like her because she compared herself to Hillary Clinton yet has nothing but her gender in common with her.  I don't like her because she said her daughter "chose" to have a baby when she won't let other women the same option.

What do any of those things have to do with her being a woman?

Wrong Bob, very wrong, I do not hate her but I oppose her.

Bob,

You have made three posts now claiming that Palin is hated so severely because of her gender and not provided any evidence of that.  Yesterday, you posted a link saying that McCain was different than Bush and referenced the smear campaign in 2000 in South Carolina without noting that McCain hired the same people he blamed for the campaign merely weeks ago.  I would be careful calling anyone an "idiot" unless your points get much, much stronger.

I was extremely surprised that on the Today show this morning, Andrea Mitchell (sp?) did point out that Palin supported the Bridge to Nowhere before it became a political liability.  She didn't come out and say that Palin lied, but at least showed both sides of the flip-floppery.

And, somewhat off-topic but relevant to the Today show this morning, the hosts did not seem to be buying the spin that the lipsticked-pig comment was sexist -- going so far as to show McCain using the same saying.

Andrea Mitchell is a liar

JLyons, for shame. You just hate Andrea Mitchell because she's a woman. :)

Yeah, and even after she survived a vicious balloon drop.  Have you no heart?

theatre goon, Just curious, are you seeing the same take on the lipstick pig comment that I've been seeing in the media? What I've seen is that anybody halfway credible has to admit that the McCain camp is full of crap, but they're all scoring it as a "political win" for McCain.

That sounds like what David Gergen said.  It was somehow a mistake on Obama's part because his critics are shamelessly dishonest or drooling idiots.

What was really odd about it was that Halperin (as noted here) dismissed it all as ridiculous.  Also noted here, World Net Daily gave a more balanced, sensible poll than MSNBC.  What the hell?  Halperin has a sketchy history regarding right-wing bias, and WND doesn't even merit comment.  It's almost as if the more mainstream sources are saying things just because they think they're supposed to say them, while more biased sources are saying even they're not buying this garbage.

Actually, Col., what I'm mostly seeing is people referring to people referring to the whole thing that way -- dishonest, but as a win for McCain.

I don't have access to cable news networks here at home, and only happened to catch the Today show because I overslept a bit, and our local affiliate of NBC has the best weather forcasts, in my opinion.  Need to know where Ike's going...

I watch local news for just that, local news, and catch most real news online.  Now and then I go watch some CNN or MSNBC with my parents so we can all yell at the TV, if I'm going by their house after work.  :')

What I've seen is that anybody halfway credible has to admit that the McCain camp is full of crap, but they're all scoring it as a "political win" for McCain - Col. Harlan Sanders

Picture this ad:  A quick set of clips of media figures describing this as a win for McCain.  A voice-over saying something to the effect that "Have we actually sunk so low that a blatant lie is a political win?  Let's hope not."  Perhaps some scold of the media could be inserted.

The Obama would never even have to broadcast the ad.  If they simply put in on their website the news shows would jump all over it broadcasting it.  They wouldn't be able to resist that little bit of self-focus and self-analysis.  Meanwhile, Obama's point about this phony issue would get free publicity and his point would be made.

Or maybe I'm being politically naive.

Well, Governor Palin, since you were against the 'Bridge to Nowhere', I guess you'll have no problem refunding the taxpayers' money for the project.

No?

That's what I thought.  Palin was worthless as mayor, sucks as Governor and, IMHO, will ruin this country when Grampy McCain croaks while in office.  This is, to me, the biggest reason to vote Obama/Biden '08!

Agreed, but could Sarah Palin be any worse than George Bush?

Can we take that chance?

Possibly, but once you go beyond a certain point of crappiness, the incremental differences in crappiness are pretty insignificant. Why would you consider that important, whether Palin could or couldn't  be worse than Bush?

Increments of excrements?

Increments of excrement are insignificant and inconsequential, in case I wasn't clear.

Not so: increments of excrements ARE consequential, they're indicators that a new crop of turdblossoms is in bloom!  (We need not rove far afield, they're proliferating before our eyes--lies, lies and more lies!)

My point was that in America we elect people who are subpar, and Bush has been the most subpar thing we ever elected in my memory. Sarah Palin can not be any worse and the way the media keeps pimping for her I can only imagine McCain Palin will steal this election.  The Democrats have not been tough on her or McBush.

It can get a lot worse than this....

Right now we are just being ripped off and ignored. Someone in office doing "God's" work and paying a lot of attention to us could be disasterous.

Maybe Palin will be the one to finally make use of the FEMA terrorist pins that have been constructed during the war. An empty pin is a worthless pin.

what did THEY do, when they had the chance?  Voted for eskimo comfort and against homeless Katrina victims?

http://www.cdobs.com/archive/our-columns/obama-and-biden-voted-for-bridge-to-nowhere,1628/

Have Obama and Biden lied about their votes, PC?

PC wrote:

>>Voted for eskimo comfort and against homeless Katrina victims?

You ought to be a bit more careful when you post. You linked to a right leaning blogger from the Chicago newspaper who said this: 

Though Gov. Palin originally supported the earmark spending on the Ketchikan bridge (“to nowhere), she eventually killed the project, chosing to spend Federal money on other infrasturcture prog

Wow! Talk about dishonest. Why did Palin kill the project? Because congress didn't give her enough money to complete it! In a press statement, she lamented that she could not build the bridge, and criticized those outside of Alaska who demonized the project.

So let's sum this up: When the project was derided as pork waste, Palin was running for governor. She was in no position to tell congress no. What did she do instead? She voiced her support *for* it. This was after it was nationally derided. Then, when congress wouldn't completely fund the bridge, she lamented that it could not be built and criticized outsiders. She wasn't against it before, she wasn't against it after. But she is now running around the country trying to portray herself as some kind of reformer who refused federal money.

She is lying through her teeth.  

Keep trying to dig up dirt on this amazing woman.  She will not be affected by it.  This is more proof that the Democrats are scared and don't know what to do about Palin.  She represents everything "progressives" want for women but they can't stand the fact that she's a Republican who didn't literally trash her unborn baby in a way that would make Obama proud.   

Palin is a radical.  The truth about her should be exposed, so it doesn't say anything about being "desperate" or whatever other nonsense you feel a need to attribute it to.