Palin as Norma Rae?  What is he smoking?

MMFA has lost its mind on this one.  Exactly how does Chris M. provide evidence that Palin is "fighting", or "up against the odds".  This piece is such a joke.  Simply being a woman and running for Gov would make all of those true. 

I love the part in Palin Ray where she jumps up on the table and despite the attempts of the factory workers to keep their jobs, she screams at them, "the rapture is comin' to kill Unions!" and throws a moose at them.

So Norma  Ray's daughter got pregnant at 16, and Norma chose to reward her daughter for succumbing to Mom's will and keep the baby rather than grounding her until she's 18, and then invited the boyfriend who had sex with a minor to her nomination party for the world to see? I must have missed that part.

Did Norma Rae attend a church whose members spoke in tongues? Just curious...

Always a pleasure to get your perspective, Snoopy!

Are the repubs paying you trolls for accuracy, or just quantity?

Norma Rae was about a pro-labor, anti-management union activist. She wasn't the boss. She didn't run anything, and that was the whole point.

The character has absolutely nothing in common with Palin, except that chromosome she shares with Hillary Clinton. 

Norma Rae? More like Harper Valley PTA!

But I think Matthews was repeating something he saw elsewhere. One of the networks did a piece on how Americans love their feisty small town female heroines. Norma Rae was one character among many that were cited.

♫ The day my momma socked it to the Mat-Su Valley PTA... ♫

MMFA has lost its mind on this one. 

And POV has never had a mind to lose....

Or, as Dan Quayle famously said,

"What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is."

On the most basic level, Palin is and would be alligned with the OWNERS who were doing everything they could to KEEP unions from organizing. Casting Palin to type would have her as a bat-swinging Union-Buster before she would ever be considered for the role as the heroic advocate for the workers.

To be fair, this is Matthews AGAIN having to say something without thinking, and does not reflect directly on the GOP ticket. THEY did not make this claim for Palin. There's plenty which DOES reflect directly on the GOP ticket, such as Palin cannot be "ready on day one" for the job of the Presidency if she is not ready to answer press questions.

She is obviously NOT ready, and she WILL NOT be ready, even after being coached and schooled by the SAME GUYS who got us into the eight-year mess of the Bush Presidency. Like Bush, she obviously has no intellectual curiosity about how the world works, and can only hope to make it through a debate with Biden by learning names and places by rote, having no UNDERSTANDING about what she's parroting.

Reminds me of when George W. Bush decided to run for president that his father brought in Prince Bandar to educate W on world events because W knew so little...and we all know how good that presidency turned out.

Regardless how the Republicans spin it, Sarah Palin was selected to salvage John McCain's campaign by energizing the religious right. IMO it has Karl Rove's finger prints all over it. It makes sense that they would go to the same well that brought them the presidency in 2004.

On the most basic level, Palin is and would be alligned with the OWNERS who were doing everything they could to KEEP unions from organizing.

Exactly.  Caribou Barbie is more like a member of the Walton Family (the Wal-Mart heirs - not the old TV show) than Norma Rae.

I could not have noted it better. I noticed Matthews is fueled by his ego. He gets pleasure out of making and braking political figures. Hillary Clinton was his crowning achievement this year. He will be telling his grandchildren how he destroyed her chances for president. Tex, it is always a joy to see your comments. I was wondering what you think about the narrative way they are presenting Sarah Pallin. So far, there is so much hype I cannot tell what is solid for her. Joseph

 

The polls are showing McCain is up.

And rightfully so.   Palin is the only person in the country that has the RIGHT ideas.  Ideas based on logic, on economic argument based on common sense.

It disgusts me and should disgust you how Obama and AxelRod tried to hypnotize America like the novel 1984, especially the youth - your kids beig hypnotized by this cartoon character.   However Palin comes right out of the pages of Anthem ( Ayn Rand ) to smash a hammer right through the Styrofoam Facade.

Obama, Obama, Obama, Obama, would does though sayeth ?

"I sayeth...  We are change, change, change, change changing for change" Oh yeah.. pass around the Kool Aid baby and take a big swig.  

The Obama brand is dieing and Palin is in Vogue !

America's Sweetheart.

 

"Palin is the only person in the country that has the RIGHT ideas. "

Then why isn't she the candidate for PRESIDENT?  You're painting her (read white washing) as being BETTER than McCain.

Ideas based on common sense or on what she believes is the will of God?

Skettle wrote:

>>Ideas based on logic, on economic argument based on common sense.

Here's an article from the WSJ: 

The only catch was that the city began building roads and installing utilities for the project before it had unchallenged title to the land. The misstep led to years of litigation and at least $1.3 million in extra costs for a small municipality with a small budget. What was to be Ms. Palin's legacy has turned into a financial mess that continues to plague Wasilla.

link

Further, I will note, that like Bush, Palin is a liar. She stated that she told congress no to the bridge to nowhere. In fact Palin wasn't even governor at the time! She actually ran on a platform that supported the bridge to nowhere. She only opposed it when it became unpopular--but she kept the money. She claims she is agains earmarks, but has asked for more earmarks than any other governor:

Under Palin's leadership, Alaska this year asked for almost $300 per person in requests for pet projects from one of McCain's top adversaries: indicted Sen. Ted Stevens. That's more than any other state received, per person, from Congress for the current budget year.

link

She also said she would coperate with an investigation into her allegedly abusing her power. Now she refuses do testify. So there is another lie, and it seems she is also corrupt. If not, why doesn't she let the investigation go forward, rather than trying to obstruct it?

Last, Palin spoke before a group wanting Alaska to seceed from the nation. She actively courted the support for this group. I thought the right wing would think that is unpatriotic, or is there a double standard?  

 

Hey I didn't say she was perfect.  She has some days better than others you know.   But I always will love her smile and her genuine character.

Skettle wrote:

>>Hey I didn't say she was perfect.  She has some days better than others you know.   But I always will love her smile and her genuine character.

Wow! What a weak, non defense. By your own standards, she is not better than others. She is the worst in accepting earmarks! As for her genuine character, I pointed out that she is a liar. She made the bridge to nowhere part of her acceptance speech, and continues to use it. But she was for it and took the money. And, she is now involved in an investigation as to whether she abused her power. She said she would cooperate, but now she want.

As someone said below, love is blind. And that characterizes your love. Apparently, you love her because she is pretty. But being so doesn't mean she has good policies and is not an outright hypocrite.  

Are you talking to hisybuf again?  He's sounding just as loony, but now idolizing Ayn Rand. 

Oh how wrong of me to read history !  How wrong of me to get an education !  I should just sit around listening to the Messiah and his holiness's empty words.  Gotta run and get some zzzz's.  Will be back tomorrow I hope... Hopefully Palin visits me in my dreams... oh yeah .. you know what I'm talking about !

 

I thought the Messiah was Jesus Christ or another Jew who has yet to come forth.

Hehe.. that's funny do you know who David AxelRod is ?

Do you know what a '57 Chevy Axle Rod is?

you're snoopy II

What’s the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let’s be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

One is a serious, thoughtful person with a Christian compassion for the plight of others.

The other kills her own food.

One has a grasp of the intricacies of foreign policy.

The other kills her own food.

One has the good judgment to have opposed the Iraq war from the start.

The other kills her own food.

One presents the opportunity to divorce government from the insanity and corruption of the Bush/Cheney administration.

The other kills her own food.

 

 

What'sthe difference between a pit bull and a community organizer.

The pit bull has teeth. ;-) 

The pit bull has teeth.

Aside from being unpredictable and bred for viciousness... But if pit bulls are good enough for Michael Vick then I guess they're good enough for the official Republican mascot.  ;>)

And, BTW, I've heard that Michael Vick is endorsing the Palin/McCain ticket... for sentimental reasons.  ;>)

Jesus was a community organizer.  Pontius Pilate was a governor.

The other kills her own food.

And her party's chances for the White House.

To Skettle2000:  You're absolutely right about getting an education.  But you might consider continuing your past the current grade 5 elementary school level you're at.  (I may be flattering you.)

Certainly she is intelligent as well,or unless you think medium intelligence is needed to beat an incumbent and then defeat a popular ex democrat governor.   And then have around 80 percent approval rating.  

 

 

 

Certainly she is intelligent as well,or unless you think medium intelligence is needed to beat an incumbent and then defeat a popular ex democrat governor.

I don't think you need to exhibit that much intelligence if you're a republican in Alaska.  Alaska has been treading bloodshot red in recent years so it would make sense that a republican would win.

And then have around 80 percent approval rating.

Her approval rating dropped to around 60 percent when troopergate hit.  And most Alakans think she's lying about her involvement.

Politics is Politics.  Non issue.   They cannot prove anything.   

As far as you hope, little man.

Wait til she has her first press conference and has to answer to the public.  Right now she's just a talking head spewing talking points written by some spin-meister.  Her lack of qualifications will emerge eventually.

That is an interesting position you've taken there "they can't prove anything". 

I notice that you aren't saying "there was nothing improper" just that it can't be proven.

Unfortunately, you may be right, or at least close enough. I suspect that her lawyer will be able to delay it until after the election if for no other reason than that she will be too busy campaigning to defend herself.

The right(wing) thing to do is to delay this as long as possible. The correct thing to do is to cooperate with the investigation. 

So far, she seems to be sticking with the right(wing) methods.

Skettle wrote:

>>Certainly she is intelligent as well,or unless you think medium intelligence is needed to beat an incumbent and then defeat a popular ex democrat governor.  

Good grief! I have no idea if she is intelligent or not. You didn't address any of my arguments. Palin is a liar and she is corrupt. She is not for small government as she is running around claiming. Do you care to address this, or can't you?  

All I know is what books she does not like and someone is claiming she tried to get banned.  All you need to know is what those books are about and you will soon realize what she stands for.  I heard "Cather in the Rye"... very interesting.  She is Ayn Rand fan for sure.  Also she supported Ron Paul as well on MTV interview.

Skettle wrote:

>>All I know is what books she does not like and someone is claiming she tried to get banned.  All you need to know is what those books are about and you will soon realize what she stands for.  I heard "Cather in the Rye"... very interesting.  She is Ayn Rand fan for sure.  Also she supported Ron Paul as well on MTV interview.

Wow! The mind reels. So you think that Palin is Ayn Rand because she doesn't like *Catcher in the Rye?" And you are okay that Palin tried to have this book banned?

Beyond that, Ayn Rand was against big government. Palin is for it, as my links show. Do you care to address the fact that Palin is against what you believe in, or are you just going to display cult loyalty to someone who looks and sounds good? Do you care that she is corrupt and lying?  

That is a nonsensical statement "She is for Big Govt".  What do you mean by that ?

 

 

Skettle wrote:

>>That is a nonsensical statement "She is for Big Govt".  What do you mean by that ?

I mean that she sought more earmarks than any other governor. As mayor, she built a hockey rink that left the town in debt. I've linked to this already.  

Yes Shame on her for building a hockey rink !  Big Govt indeed.  She should have built an uberleft school and you would be all okay with.

One hockey rink and this is big govt !   Debt is a natural part of business when trying to revitalize the town.

Seriously the best thing for you to do if you want to end all this hate that you have is to go take a political science degree.  It will do you a tonne of good.

I never heard of a hockey rink but some of these things included rail transportation and sewage and water projects.

"Hey I didn't say she was perfect.  She has some days better than others you know.   But I always will love her smile and her genuine character." skettle

Someone posted facts and links to back them up, and this is the best you can come up with to argue their points? "But I will always love her smile and genuine character" ?

 

Palin is like a "tribble" to the right wing. Get near her and they are taken in by her fluff and purr......but the left sees her for what she really is, a dust bunny swept up in a right wing political mess.

Tribbles...from Star Trek:  

Cyrano Jones, brings some little furry animals called tribbles onto the station to sell; he gives one to Uhura as a marketing ploy. She brings it on board the Enterprise, where it and its offspring are treated as adorable pets. The animals purr a relaxing trill that the crew (even the stoic Mr. Spock) find soothing. Klingons, however, find tribbles very annoying, and the feeling is mutual: tribbles emit an ear-piercing shriek of aggression whenever they are around Klingons.

The "trouble" with the tribbles is that they reproduce far too quickly; in the words of Dr. McCoy "they are born pregnant" and threaten to consume all the onboard supplies. The problem is aggravated when it is discovered that the creatures are physically entering essential ship systems, interfering with their functions and consuming any edible contents present.

 Meant to put this in bold too.....

" he gives one to Uhura as a marketing ploy. "

 See how "Tribble" makes sense!  ;-)

It's disappointing that some Americans have fallen for a gimmick.

The polls are showing McCain is up. - Skettle

Yeah, their post-convention bounce brought them into a statistical tie.  When things go as they usually do, the trends that existed before the convention will resume and Obama's lead will resume and expand.

Palin is the only person in the country that has the RIGHT ideas.  Ideas based on logic, on economic argument based on common sense. - Skettle

The only person?  Is that your way of acknowledging that she's badly out of touch with mainstream America, a fact that is becoming more apparent every day?

Just what are her economic ideas?  So far everything she's said, especially at the convention, was completely devoid of substance.

It disgusts me and should disgust you how Obama and AxelRod tried to hypnotize America - Skettle

Were you able to type that claptrap without giggling out loud?  Surely you didn't expect anyone to take it seriously.

However Palin comes right out of the pages of Anthem ( Ayn Rand ) to smash a hammer right through the Styrofoam Facade. - Skettle

I haven't read Anthem.  The Fountainhead was not too bad, even if the protagonist's foes were ridiculous characters with no real counterparts in real life.  However, Atlas Shrugged completely turned me off on Rand.  She tried to create a worldwide enemy that she saw in social cultures that has never existed.  It would have been laughable if it hadn't contained so many long, drawn-out moralizing speeches by her ultra-noble heroes.  That just made it dull

Oh yeah.. pass around the Kool Aid baby and take a big swig.  The Obama brand is dieing and Palin is in Vogue !  America's Sweetheart. - Skettle

The irony is wonderful.  It's too bad it's beyond you to see it.

If you get a chance Anthem is very short read - pretty good.   Cather in the Rye is normally disliked by objectivists.  Somebody says that Palin wanted it Banned but no proof.

If you get a chance Anthem is very short read

And if you don't get a chance, it's still a short read, which is why the wingnuts like it. It doesn't strain their four-second attention span.

No matter how short it is, it is nothing like a good read.

>>And rightfully so.   Palin is the only person in the country that has the RIGHT ideas.  Ideas based on logic, on economic argument based on common sense.

Which do you like best? Her highly effective methods of preventing teen pregnancy or her plan to have Alaska seceed from the union? 

 

Well, you didn't ask me, but I just have to interject.

How could you ignore her economic policy that left a town of 6000 people $22 million in debt after 6 years?

That's change you can believe in! 

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/05/alaskans-speak-in-a-frightened-whisper-palin-is-%E2%80%9Cracist-sexist-vindictive-and-mean%E2%80%9D/

..."According to Kilkenny and others in Wasilla as well as Juneau, Palin reduced progressive property taxes for businesses while mayor and increased a regressive sales tax which even hits necessities such as food. The tax cuts she promoted in her St. Paul speech actually benefited large corporate property owners far more than they benefited residents. Indeed, Kilkenny insists that many Wasilla home owners actually saw their tax bill skyrocket to make up for the shortfall. Two other Wasillian’s with whom I spoke said property taxes on their modest, three bedroom homes rose during the Palin regime.

To an outsider, it would seem hard to do, but an oil-rich town with zero debt on the day she was inaugurated mayor was left saddled with $22 million of debt by the time she moved away to become governor – especially since nothing was spent on things such as improving the city’s infrastructure or building a much-needed sewage treatment plant. So what did Mayor Palin spend the taxpayer’s money on, if not fixing streets and scrubbing sewage?

For starters, she remodelled her office. Several times over, as a matter of fact.

Then Palin spent $1 million on an unnecessary, new park that no one other than the contractors and Palin seemed to want. Next, Sarah doled out more than $15 million of taxpayer money for a sports complex that she shoved through even though the city did not own clear title to the land; now, seven years later, the matter is still in litigation and lawyer fees are said to be close to at least half of the original estimated price of the facility..."

When a business first starts up it is always in debt.  That is no big deal so long as it gets return on money down the road.  Read some economics.  And all this article says is Kil* says, Kil* says.   I don't know who he is or if he is telling the truth.

Try "she".  If you had read the article you would have known that. 

http://www.laprogressive.com/2008/09/03/about-sarah-palin/

Skettle wrote:

>>When a business first starts up it is always in debt.  

Yes, and a bad business stays in debt--as is the case with the town she was mayor for. Boy, she must have some real good common sense.  

But Ronald Reagan proved that paying off debt doesn't matter! Now if only I could explain that to Citibank.

"  Palin is the only person in the country that has the RIGHT ideas.  Ideas based on logic, on economic argument based on common sense."

Great. So now she can go on interview shows and tell us about them.

 

Oh Skettle. "The Polls?" Please. May I direct your attention to the scoreboard?

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/

In case it's hard for you to read, try to focus on the three pie charts called "Electoral Vote," "Win Percentage," and "Popular Vote." Hint: Blue means Obama.

I believe the lady is spoken for.

New evidence, as if it were needed, that love is blind.

Good one !  Love is blind and America is in Love !

 

A handful are in love with Palin.  Another handful are mildly infatuated, but will get over it with greater familiarity.  Most are coming to see the lack of substance and character.

What the hell is wrong with this guy?

He knows nothing about movies, unions or Palin.

And how does he even mention a conservative Republican while talking about someone fighting for the minimum wage?

And I was just beginning to think that maybe Matthew was in his right mind...he loves his little themes, even if they don't make any sense.

How long before you think Matthews will be telling us what he thinks the regular folks will want to see Bristol Palin wear at her wedding?

That's coming, sure enough-- along with Larry King calling her "America's mom." 

"What the hell is wrong with this guy? He knows nothing about movies, unions or Palin. And how does he even mention a conservative Republican while talking about someone fighting for the minimum wage? - worrierking / Sunday September 7, 2008 6:51:32 PM EDT"

 

On movies and politicians, you have to remember that Matthews is also the one who compared Bush to Atticus Finch in "To Kill a Mockingbird."

http://mediamatters.org/items/200602270010

Seemingly a great wieght was removed from his head when Palin entered the ring. Manic yes,energetic yes,connected to reality no.

"Ladies and gentlemen, the textile industry, in which you are spending your lives and your substance...is the only industry in the whole length and breadth of these United States of America that is not unionized. Therefore, they are free to exploit you, to lie to you, to cheat you and to take away from you what is rightfully yours--your health, a decent wage, a fit place to work."

- speech from the 1979 film Norma Rae, delivered in an impassioned sermon by Ron Leibman in the role of an organizer for the Textile Workers Union of America   http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070312/nathan-mort

What an appallingly ignorant comparison to Palin.

She is better then Norma.  She is Feminist 2.0.  Faster, quicker, more powerful and prettier.  Men will start looking up to women and women will finally reach their ideal.

Skettle wrote:

>>She is better then Norma.  She is Feminist 2.0.  Faster, quicker, more powerful and prettier.  Men will start looking up to women and women will finally reach their ideal.

Ugh! More talking points from a cult follower. Palin is lying to you, as I have pointed out. You apparently don't care about that. You only want to show blind loyalty to someone who looks and sounds good.  

She did not lie and you know it.   She said she is against earmarks.   Proof that is a false statement ?  

You have to look at time lines.  She could have been for them 1 day and against them another.

She did not say "I have always been against every single earmark that has been in front of Alaska every day of my life".

Then she would be a lier.

Then what the hell does "against earmarks" even mean then?  You know what, from your posts I can tell you can't make a cogent argument, so don't even bother.  

All you need to know is, Sarah Palin loves her some earmarks.

Oh, and Ayn Rand's philosophies are incompatible with a liberal democracy.

Skettle wrote:

>>She did not lie and you know it.   She said she is against earmarks.   Proof that is a false statement ?  

Good grief! I have posted numerous links to show exactly that she did lie. She stated that she told congress no thanks to the bridge. But she was not in any position to tell congress that at all! That is lie one. She states that she is against earmarks, but as I showed in my links, she has requested more earmarks per capita than any other governor! That is lie 2. Then she stated she would cooperate with the trooper gate investigation; she now says she won't. That is lie 3.  

Then she would be a lier (sic).

Something you never "tier" of saying, apparently. What are you, twelve?

Skettle needs to let whatever they're on wear off so they can actually realize what they're typing. Oh, Skettle, don't drive for awhile. DUI's are really bad for you driving record.

You only want to show blind loyalty to someone who looks and sounds good.

That's hilarious coming from a Barack Obama supporter.

Max wrote:

>> That's hilarious coming from a Barack Obama supporter.

Oh really? When someone points out that Barrack is against what I stand for, my own posts, do I say that I like him anyway because he has a nice smile and a genuine personality?  

Citing no evidence, Matthews dubbed Palin "a conservative version" of "Norma Rae"

What? He needs evidence to liken her to a folk hero?

I think that's weak. A statement like that is meant for the viewer to draw their own conclusion based on their own personal understanding of:

1. Norma Rae

2. Gov Sarah Palin's recent speeches.

it's a *simple* analogy and need not be speeled out in pain staking detail, or any detail really.

MMFA, everything's not a slight on the democrats, sheesh. Get a story.

PS. It's like saying "San Francisco is the land of Fruits and Nuts " .. would anyone complain if that statement was not backed up with hard evidence? .. lol

Do you think she had any involvement in the preparation of that speech?  Someone wrote it for her and she read it.

Loontz, they have their new hero, Mrs. Palin.  She can skin a moose.  She's just like Norma Rae:  that is, if Norma Rae had been an arrogant, self-important right wing ideologue who claims to know when Jesus is a comin' and where.  And if Norma Rae had hated every policy that helps the poor working folk.

And if Norma Rae had hated every policy that helps the poor working folk.

It'd be great if you had a clue.

Truth is the folks of Alaska are much better off since she's taken office, and she has an 80% approval rating. They love her there.

Max wrote:

>>Truth is the folks of Alaska are much better off since she's taken office, and she has an 80% approval rating. They love her there.

Well, I understand her approval rating has dropped to 60% because of the troopergate scandal, the investigation of which she is now trying to squash. What is she trying to hide? She said she would cooperate before she became VP. And like I keep pointing out, Palin is lying right through her teeth. She is running around the country saying she is against earmarks, when the exact opposite is true.  

Hoooray for Alaska!!!!

Meanwhile we have repubs accross the nation foaming at the mouth for their new hero.  Odds are they never heard of her until Mccain scooped her up. 

What really is so heroic about her, so "norma Rae"?  Her  obscurity, her humble background, her "folks like us" appeal? Her loyalty to conception?  I mean what a pathetic joke!  Mccain picks her from obscurity and now its like the calvalry is coming at the nick of time to reform washington from 8+ years of extreme republican governance... Oh and she lives near Russia!

Yes isn't it so exciting, so fairy tale that we have a well demographically target nobody possibly as a VP.  Wasn't there anyone else in the republican leadership qualified?  What does this say about the republicans:  That a pretty smile and a fetus fixated creationist is just what this country needs right now.  Oh and she has a modest background.  Increadible!  What a rare thing that is! 

Meanwhile we have repubs accross the nation foaming at the mouth for their new hero. Odds are they never heard of her until Mccain scooped her up.

Couldn't have been a bigger nothing than Barack. At least Gov Palin has done something; many things in fact. Barack is an empty suit with lofty ideals and no substance.

Gov Palin > Barack

What does this say about the republicans:

That we picked the right person for the job.

Max wrote:

>>Couldn't have been a bigger nothing than Barack. At least Gov Palin has done something; many things in fact. Barack is an empty suit with lofty ideals and no substance. 

Yes, she left a town in debt. That is something. And as far as substance, I don't remember any substance in her speech. Being sarcastic and making easy jokes does not count as substance.  

Right person, wrong job.

And, you have such a great history of picking the right person for the job.  In 2000, you recognized that McCain's abilities fell just short of those of George Bush.  Nicely done.  I certainly expect that he'll  live up to just short of the standards set by Dubya.

And there's Cheney, Rumsfeld, Libby, Gonzales, Brown...  The list showing the republican's judgment of right men for the job goes on and on and on...

When I hear righties spew the talking point that Palin has more experience than Obama, I can't help but laugh. Thery're like little kids who have put their fingers in their ears and are going "nah-nah-nah-nah-".

Maybe the reason for this Krusty is that she managed to keep $400 million meant for a bridge to nowhere and conned them by saying that she sold a jet for a profit even though it was for a loss. I know some of you on the right have very strong (and kinky) fantasys about Palin, but it would help the dialogue and (speed up your typing) if you used both hands and kept your thoughts above the waist.

You don't understand accounting.

If I by a car today for 100 and sell it for 50 next year.  I lose 50.  But if I keep it forever and it goes to 0 in value I lose 100.  So by selling it I save the state 50.  Think about it.

And if you bought a car for $100, then sold it for $50, and then claimed that you made a profit on the deal, you'd be a liar.

Think about it.

Hey, for a short time only, I got a car available for $100, which I will buy back immediately for $50.  Rare opportunity for a sharp businessman to make a quick $50!  Supplies are limited, so act fast!

Don't think about it too long, or it might be gone...

Don't worry, Neon. I don't think that Skettle spends much time thinking about ANYTHING.

you think she had any involvement in the preparation of that speech?

Of course she did. She shared her life story with a writer that wrote the speech. She shared her accomplishments as well as those things that are most important to her.

It was a harmonic convergence of story, speech writing and delivery; in a word, 'perfect'.

It was a harmful convergence of blarney, screech writing and delivery; in a word, 'suspect'.

It's a delicious comingling of Mac and Cheesecake!

In a word, "SCRUMPTIOUS"!

What’s the difference between Sarah Palin and Barack Obama?

One is a well turned-out, good-looking, and let’s be honest, pretty sexy piece of eye-candy.

The other kills her own food.

Please go back to bed.

Remember to take away his flashlight and his Victoria's Secret catalog first so he'll get some sleep.

He has to get up early tomorrow to take his poli-sci degree. 

What are these people talking about! They had to re-write  speech they had already written for a male nominee. Sheesh, these people are thick.

Max wrote:

>>Gov Sarah Palin's recent speeches. 

In which she is lying big time, as I point out in an earlier post here. She was not against the bridge to nowhere, and she is not against earmarks.  

The comparisons just continue...

 

First Palin was the next Hillary Clinton, then the was the next Barack Obama, then she was the next Ronald Reagan, then she was the next Margaret Thatcher, now she's the next Norma Rae... Who's next, Mother Theresa?

 

 

I don't think she quite has the comparison list of Barack Obama, but she is getting close

And to think they were trashing Obama because of his celebrity, his paris hilton mojo. 

Caribou Barbie is a Frankenstein conglomeration of Republican archetypes which sprang, fully formed, from the forehead of Karl Rove. She's the total package; she has a son going to Iraq, a daughter who decided to have a baby rather than an abortion, a husband who belongs to a Neo Confederate organization.... she loves guns.... and she's a religious Troglodyte. The non-thinkers have their political Joan d'Arc.

The woman is a four-star phony. It is a new height of audacity and hypocrisy that Karl would prop her up in front of 37 million Americans to tell obvious lies about earmarks and the Bridge to Nowhere. These lies have been quickly uncovered by reporters who bothered to check. The big question is: will the Corporate Media call her on it?

As usual, you are right on the mark. I'm just surprised the republicans didn't switch the ticket and made it Palin/McCain.

It IS all about judgement.

And I just can't get over the fact that the Republicans judged that McCain wasn't as able to lead the country as George Bush.

I think they would if they could. I have put forth the theory that, if they win, Grampy will quickly resign due to health concerns. However, they may not wait that long. I'm sure Karl is working on a back room deal to have Gramps withdraw and put her at the top of the ticket. The Troglodytes would be so ecstatic that they would overwhelm the thinking population in November. Karl just has to figure out which people to bribe or threaten to make it to happen.

Maybe Chris has a sliver of a point here. In the Bizarro Conservative World, I could see Caribou Barbie picketing a corporation, demanding higher pay for the CEO.

I should've known Tweety would fall for this one.  I bet he got a thrill up his leg over her convention speech.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/07/obama-recession-could-delay-end-to-bush-tax-cuts/

 

HaHaHaHa !!!!  Looks like the Messiah wants to keep Bush Tax Cuts at least until recession ends.    

Politics isn't it  great... He's is in BIG TIME trouble now.  Starting to look like a Flip Flopper.

Hey  Comic Book Guy:

 

African American running for POTUS: I am NOT the Messiah!

Right wing stooge & weatherman on Murdoch morning cable show: I say you are Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few.

African American running for POTUS: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!

Blonde air-headed right wing news model : Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.

African American running for POTUS: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!

Moronic viewers of Murdoch morning cable show who believe everything right wingers tell them: He is! He is the Messiah!

African American running for POTUS: Now, fcuk off!
[silence]

Right wing stooge & weatherman on Murdoch morning cable show: How shall we fcuk off, O Lord?

Nice Python reference.

Hey  Comic Book Guy:

 

African American running for POTUS: I am NOT the Messiah!

Right wing stooge & weatherman on Murdoch morning cable show: I say you are Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few.

African American running for POTUS: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!

Blonde air-headed right wing news model : Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.

African American running for POTUS: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!

Moronic viewers of Murdoch morning cable show who believe everything right wingers tell them: He is! He is the Messiah!

African American running for POTUS: Now, fcuk off!
[silence]

Right wing stooge & weatherman on Murdoch morning cable show: How shall we fcuk off, O Lord?

WHAT A CROK.

You know, many people seem to think that Palin is the one running for president here. But you know what, if you wanna play this game, LET'S DO THIS!

First, Palin (and McCain, and Rudy "noun, verb and 9/11" Giuliani) mock Obama for being a community organizer. So, in the words of Jon Stewart, "For those who are out there trying to make a difference in your community, F*** YOU!"

They criticize the "Chicago Political Machine", as if it's different from any other place in America that practices politics, and cites no evidence of it being evil.

But I guess if you want to criticize someone for their geographical origin of political practice, then LET'S DO THIS!

(everything below this was written by a fellow Alaskan. I can't do those fancy bold or Italicized thingys)

Let’s compare Barack Obama and Sarah Palin. Ask yourself how the responsibilities each shouldered compared. And then ask yourself who has the REAL experience needed to be President.

Sarah Palin:

4 years on the city council of Wasila, Alaska (1992-1996)

4 years as mayor of Wasilla (1996-2002)

2 years as Governor of Alaska, 2006-2008

Barack Obama:

7 years in the Illinois Senate (1997-2004)

4 years as US Senator from Illinois (2004-2008)

Total time spent holding elected office:

Sarah Palin: 10

Barack Obama: 11

Now, let’s compare Illinois and Alaska (along with beautiful Wasilla) to get a feel of the responsibilities Sarah Palin and Barack Obama faced comparing the two states and how they stand nationally:

Population:

Illinois: No. 5 with 12.85 million people

Alaska: No. 47 with 683,000 people

Wasilla, Alaska: 6715 people

Illinois has 18.8 times the population of Alaska.

Illinois has 1914 times the population of Wasilla.

State budgets:

Illinois: $65 billion

Alaska: $5.5 billion

Wasilla, Alaska: $12 million ($0.012 billion)

Illinois has 11.8 times the budget of Alaska.

Illinois has 5417 times the budget of Wasila.

Gross Domestic Product:

Illinois: $560 billion, no. 5 nationally

Alaska: $39 billion, no. 45 nationally

Illinois contributes 14.4 times as much to the national gross domestic product as does Alaska.

Now, let’s look at how Illinois and Alaska govern themselves. Which state is more addicted to federal aid, which state has more bureaucrats, and which state sucks up more revenue from its citizens:

Federal aid per capita:

Alaska: No. 1 at $3699 per person. WE’RE NUMBER ONE! WE GET THE MOST FEDERAL WELFARE!

Illinois: No. 40 at $1176 per person

Alaska receives 3.15 times as much federal aid per person as Illinois! And this does not include the Bridge to Nowhere. It’s gone nowhere so far, but who knows what might happen if we had a President from Alaska who supported the Bridge to Nowhere before it became politically unfashionable.

State governmental full-time employment per 10,000 residents:

Illlinois: 104, no. 50--DEAD LAST nationally in the relative size of its government!

Alaska: 370, no. 2! Second in the nation in the size of its government! Oh, no, we’re not number 1! But we’re close!

Alaska has 3.56 times as many government employees per capita as Illinois!

State government revenue per capita:

Alaska: $13,446 per person. Number 1 nationally. WE’RE NUMBER 1! WE HAVE THE BIGGEST STATE GOVERNMENT!

Illinois: $4819, no. 37 nationally.

Alaska extracts 2.78 times as much revenue from its citizens as Illinois!

Traffic fatalities per 100 million miles driven:

Alaska: 2.02, no. 10 nationally

Illinois: 1.24, no. 37 nationally

Alaskans kill themselves in traffic accidents almost twice as often as residents of Illinois. Maybe Alaskans are worrying more than Illinois about their governor taxing them, increasing the number of state bureaucrats, and milking the American taxpayer for federal welfare. And maybe they’re worrying about a President Palin!

Something to think about!

(end of Alaskan's words)

Personally, despite the debt we are in, I've always believed that the federal government should spend money on things that are necessary to the public and/or American citizens. Living in Virginia Beach, I often go to our neighboring ity of Norfolk, another part of the Hampton Roads area, and we actually wouldn't have been able to build a light rail system there without federal funds. If something necessary needs to be built and if the state or local government can't pay for it, I wouldn't mind federal money being used for it, such as infrastructure, or universal health care and college.

However, I do mind that Palin is basically lying about being a so-called "fiscal conservative" and an "enemy to earmarks" and also lying about being opposed to the Bridge to Nowhere from the beginning. She KEPT THE MONEY! If I was Biden or Obama in a debate, I'd say, "Can we have that money back, since you so hate earmarks?" She and other conservatives mock us, saying that we are always too dependent on "welfare" and love to "tax and spend" and yet she, a "conservative" has requested so much in federal, well, I guess you can call it "welfare" if that's how she wants to put it. Yep, she's a tax and spender, just like the W. Bush administration and it's Republican controlled Congress.

truth-telling Obama>lying Palin. Get used to it.

tman  I am afraid you lost me right at the beginning.  If Palin were the mayor from 1996 to 2002 that would not be four years, it would be six.  There goes your argument right there.

Obama started his presidential campaign in 2006 after less than two years in office as Senator. He's been a full time campaigner and part time Senator ever since.

tman  I am afraid you lost me right at the beginning.

We knew you wouldn't be able to understand it.

I guess these numbers explain why someone who claims she has so much experience has to hide from interviews from the unfreindly media .

This is beginning to look like a classic Trojan Horse strategy. Given the low median I.Q. of the American electorate, the Grampy/Barbie ticket could very well win. Once in office, Grampy will have a health scare and resign, elevating the Troglodyte Queen to the throne. Suddenly, the knuckledragging faction that owns the GOP has one of its own at the pinnacle of power, and Karl Rove has another ventriloquist dummy in the White House. She'll probably n