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Levin: "It's not the National Organization of Liberal Women. It's the National Organization of Ugly Women"
Summary: Calling into Sean Hannity's radio show, Mark Levin said of the National Organization for Women: "It's not the National Organization of Liberal Women. It's the National Organization of Ugly Women." Moments later, after Hannity stated, "[a]pparently [Sen. Barack] Obama took a shot at me again," Levin responded, "Obama's obsessed with you. ... Maybe he's attracted to you."
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Posted by princeofwheels
You just have to laugh at the guys..
I decree that this thread is over. But it is Friday and Seannie the Sissy and the Creep are fair, or unfair game. I shall wait and read.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 8:53:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs
Only the party of "keep them barefoot and pregnant' (or pole dancing) could come up with all this nonsense.
They have created a VP candidate that is supposedly hunts moose, a lifelong member of the NRA, a mom of 5, hockey mom, pitbull with lipstick....described as tough, reformer, tenacious, Maverick.....and they have a problem with a group that says she is more like a man than a woman on women's issues?
They didn't SAY she was a man, and how stupid can someone be to repeat on air that is how they took.....oh, yeah, Hannity and Leven. Sorry....not thinking.
".... told the Politico, quote, "She's more a conservative man than she is a woman on women's issues. Very disappointing."...."
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 8:57:36 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to Graydogs
...should have said "admit on air" that is how they took it.
Who would want to admit they are that dumb...of yeah, shoot... did it again didn't I.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:02:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:44:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to DAWUSS
What else would it be? One of those baby room-monitors, piped in from Alaska?
You know, about 60% of Americans would totally believe that explanation, too. They'd have tears in their eyes.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:10:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to princeofwheels
I agree she is being controlled by men, but that is not what Hannity claimed they said....and not what the National Organization for women said:
Hannity: "So that's the official liberal feminist position. Sarah Palin is not a woman. She's a man."
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And here is what was said: "...spokesman for the National Organization for Women, "noting Palin's opposition to abortion rights and" her "support of other parts of the social conservative agenda," told the Politico, quote, "She's more a conservative man than she is a woman on women's issues. Very disappointing."....."
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They are saying that on women's issues, she's more like a conservative man, than a woman .
I think Pain's handling of issues lacks compassion or understanding for women....for example how she line vetoed the funds for unwed teen mother.
Washington Post.com By Paul Kane
ST. PAUL -- Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the Republican vice-presidential nominee who revealed Monday that her 17-year-old daughter is pregnant, earlier this year used her line-item veto to slash funding for a state program benefiting teen mothers in need of a place to live.
After the legislature passed a spending bill in April, Palin went through the measure reducing and eliminating funds for programs she opposed. Inking her initials on the legislation -- "SP" -- Palin reduced funding for Covenant House Alaska by more than 20 percent, cutting funds from $5 million to $3.9 million. Covenant House is a mix of programs and shelters for troubled youths, including Passage House, which is a transitional home for teenage mothers.
According to Passage House's web site, its purpose is to provide "young mothers a place to live with their babies for up to eighteen months while they gain the necessary skills and resources to change their lives" and help teen moms "become productive, successful, independent adults who create and provide a stable environment for themselves and their families.".....[..]
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:51:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to Graydogs
Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin wrote in her line-item veto changes by hand in this copy of a 2008 spending bill obtained by The Washington Post.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:57:11 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to Graydogs
More of her stances against women's issues (ref. Huffington Post 9-01-08)
"Palin. In that same 2006 questionnaire, the soon-to-be governor said she would fund abstinence-only education programs in schools. "The explicit sex-ed programs," she added, "will not find my support." ..."
"....In an Eagle Forum Alaska questionnaire filled out during the 2006 gubernatorial race, Palin again stated that she is against abortion unless a doctor determined that a mother's life would end due to the pregnancy."I believe that no matter what mistakes we make as a society," she wrote, "we cannot condone ending an innocent's life."......"
".....Granting exceptions only if the mother's life was in danger, that when it came to her daughter, "I would choose life."Palin said At the time, her daughter was 14 years old. Moreover, Alaska's rape rate was an abysmal 2.2 times above the national average and 25 percent of all rapes resulted in unwanted pregnancies. But Palin's position was palatable within the state's largely Republican political circles......."
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:11:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Graydogs
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:20:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to DAWUSS
Probably for the same reason that the Republicans are criticized for being anti-choice....yet are against birth control, sex education, funding for women who so keep their babies, insuring or dispensing birth control, education for single moms, and on and on.
Ironic how their "compassion" runs out for women (and the resulting children) who choose life. Look at those who go as far to say women should be sentenced to death for having an abortion no matter what the reason.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:33:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to princeofwheels
Funniest Hannity moment I've seen recently, I think it was last night on his TV children's show-- Sean was outraged, almost tearful, over the underhanded smears of the Left. Apparently, Harry Reid had described Palin's speech as "shrill", a word that Hannity objected to as out of line in criticizing a female candidate.
Does somebody have the resources to review the past year of Sean's radio show (the Stop Hillary Express, before it morphed into the Stop the Radical Obama Express), and Hannity & Colmes, and get an exact count of how many times the word "shrill" was used to describe not a specific speech, but HRC as a person?
The complete disconnect from reality from these righty nuts is amazing. Like nothing ever happened before yesterday, except for Ronald Reagan's being sent to Earth as the son of God, and all major and minor transgressions by non-Republicans.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 1:38:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
"The complete disconnect from reality from these righty nuts is amazing."
That brings up the big question for me. To what degree are they knowingly dissembling versus really believing what they say?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 2:46:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Interesting Col....How short Hannity's memory must be.....
From MMFA Oct. 3rd 2007:
"Sean Hannity also repeatedly played an audio clip of Clinton's laughter on his nationally syndicated radio show, saying of Clinton's laugh, "What is that? Where did that come from? Isn't that frightening? And this went on a number of times in these interviews." After playing a clip of Clinton's laugh seven times, Hannity said, "It's -- you know what it is? She went on [the Sunday shows] with one goal this weekend. You know what the goal was? To convince people she's nice." Later in the show, a caller requested that Hannity post the audio clip of Clinton laughing on his website because the caller's "daughter's going to be a witch this year for the first time" for Halloween and needed to "work on her ... shrill witch laugh." Hannity responded, "Now be -- be careful. Be careful. See, look, one of the things Hillary always likes to do for herself is create victimhood. You know, we refrain on this program from creating victim status for Hillary, here, by ad hominem atta -- look, I'm gonna tell you what -- I'll put it on the website as a special request for you."....."Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 6:12:14 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to Graydogs
Check this out Graydogs (from Newshounds)
'Hannity was on his sensitivity soapbox all night. “I find the attacks unprecedented, insulting, degrading, sexist, mean-spirited, hateful, and it’s gotta stop,” he said. Not that he has ever minded the most vile and unwarranted attacks against Democrats, even when they occurred right on his show.'
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 6:48:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by RABBITLUVR
The Detestable One, aka His Vileness, aka Mark Levin - yes, that is how I refer to that prick, thank me very much - and his little 'friend' Insanity oughta hook up with Dick Morris and have a toe-sucking orgy. We know Dick is into that big-time, Insanity seems to hate women, including his wife, and Levin... well, he doesn't sound like the most masculine dude so he might dig that sort of thing as well. Three ugly dudes going at it. Hey, let's throw Jeff Christie into the mix while we're at it - he'd fit right in with that bunch.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:09:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Yeah, we can start calling HIM 'Plugs' - his 'nick' for Biden.
God, what a scuzzy and classless b*stard. I'd sure love to know what his wife sees in that ugly tub of lard.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:50:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered in reply to Graydogs
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 2:33:05 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to eddy3957 reregistered
Eddy....I CAN'T STAND Levin. I think he is one of the lowest forms of human beings, but Levin's wife, if he has a wife..... hasn't done or said anything that I know of, that is offensive, or that we have all read or commented about. Am I correct?
If we can sit here and be appalled by articles such as the one above.....or others where college women on a basketball team (who had done nothing but make the news for basketball) can be called nappy headed whores, simply for a laugh.......then we would be major hypocrites to insult the wife of someone we despise. Does no one hear get that?
Is it acceptable to discuss how appalled we are to hear those in the media call women bitches, feminazis, whores, and other names, and then apply racist or sexist comments ourselves to women in the media or politics, or wives of men we don't like we simply don't like? The same for LGTB and racial slurs. Aren't we the ones who constantly say we are above such things?
I'm far from a prude, and have certainly used my share of descriptions to deserving people of both sexes......but we have to keep in mind that others come here expecting some of the low life discourse they see on other internet sites, and are often amazed to find civil discourse.
Just saying.......
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 9:56:02 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels in reply to Graydogs
Dogs, I think we can agree that Mrs. Levin benefits from her husbands "lyin" of work. Hopefully, she is woman enough to let him know of his career choice. If not, then she must agree with him or the money. Then she becomes fair game.
P.S. I hope the Reepublicans don't consider comment sections the PRESS. If so, we will not be permitted to comment. Really, why can't we ask questions of Sister Sarah? MRS. LEVIN, feel free to comment if you husband allows it.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 10:42:52 AM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:27:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to my4cents1172
He's the head of the Landmark Legal Foundation, he writes books railing against 'activist judges' and he recently wrote a book about his dead doggie Sprite - a book he shamelessly plugged on his show every night for about three months, he shills for DirectBuy - a sham outfit, and occasionally shows up on I&C always siding with his 'buddy' Insanity.
He touts himself as a 'brilliant' Constitutional lawyer but I wonder what the demand really is for that. Apparently, he's been a political geek ever since he was a kid so I take it that he didn't 'get around' too much as a teen.
Just another Karl Rove...
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:39:19 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by annes10 in reply to RABBITLUVR
I used to try to listen to him, but he's gotten too shrill to tolerate even for a few moments, lately. As far as calling NOW members ugly, that's ... rich, coming from him.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:24:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered in reply to annes10
"...he's gotten too shrill to tolerate..."
Wow! I haven't heard him in months but it's hard to believe he's gotten worse!
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 2:19:56 AM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by wzwriter in reply to RABBITLUVR
He touts himself as a 'brilliant' Constitutional lawyer ...
Ann "The Man" Coulter also claims to be a "Constitutional Lawyer". I guess "Constitutionla Lawyers" aren't good enough to chase ambulances.
Posted Monday September 8, 2008 4:30:35 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by fawltylogic
LEVIN: Maybe he's attracted to you.
HANNITY: [laughs]
I can't believe Levin put that thought into Hannity's head, now when Hannity's crush on Obama had FINALLY subsided. Now Seannie is again gonna have all these sleepless nights thinking what could have been...Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:06:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS
LEVIN: Dr. Hannity?
Does Hannity have an M.D. or a Ph.D.?
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:08:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to DAWUSS
What's the deal with calling Sean "Doctor" and Sean calling you "Doctor"? How did that get started? Sean used to do a segment each week in which he gave helpful advice to callers. So, I would call in with a joke, and refer to him as Dr. Hannity. He would call me Dr. Levin. That's how it started.
(From Talk Radio interview)
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:17:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by proudconservative
NOW has shown it's hand. It is not for women, only leftist women who expouse the use of the abortion to validate their significance. That's the only right NOW believes is worth advocating.
They are disappointed about her views, but feel no pride that this is a woman that has accomplished something significant for women, without leaning on the merits of a man in her life,(would Hilliary ever gone as far as she did on her own?) but since she will not commune with NOW-types enjoying the sacriments of abortion in their religion, she cannot be tolerated by leftist women's organizations.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 11:06:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skettle2000 in reply to proudconservative
You have some minor points but get off the abortion stuff. I am still waiting for Palin to speak on choice/life and we can all assess her views then. I hope she will have something a little different to say on it that has never been said before.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 1:50:29 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to proudconservative
Apparently this has gone way over your head, or you just didn't read prior posts.
The problem is that NOT the choices that Palin made in her life, or that she "doesn't lean on her man"....the problem is how she responds to women's issues AS A POLITICIAN>
Palin is pro-life, which is fine, but she has no interestest in sure measures are taken SO THE POINT NEVER ARRIVES WHERE A WOMAN NEEDS TO
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 8:52:58 AM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by Graydogs in reply to proudconservative
Apparently this has gone way over your head, or you just didn't read prior posts.
The problem is that NOT the choices that Palin made in HER life, or that she "doesn't lean on her man"....the complaint was how she, as a female POLITICIAN responds to women's issue. She doesn't respond as a compassionate woman would, to women's issues.
Palin is pro-life, which is fine, but she is against sex education, and has cut the spending on the homes and care of unwed mothers.Her abortion stance is cold and cut and dry...she had said if her (14 year old at the time) daughter was raped, she said she wouldn't allow an abortion. Her only excuse for abortion is saving the life of the mother.
If you don't understand that taking a pro-life stand should include doing more than telling people not to have sex, or walking away from mothers and babies who chose to keep their babies, then you are beyond talking to.
She is being paraded around as mother of the year, and yet she cares nothing about women's issues before or after preganancy.This is hypocrisy.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 9:07:33 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by proudconservative in reply to Graydogs
pinkpuppy,
Here's the actual quote:
"A spokeswoman for the National Organization for Women, noting Palin’s opposition to abortion rights and support of other parts of the social conservative agenda, told Politico, “She's more a conservative man than she is a woman on women's issues. Very disappointing.""
The issue is that NOW cares only about abortion rights and fighting social conservatism. And are these the ONLY things that women care about? So you cannot be a woman and be pro-life? You can attain political power but only the 'left' way?(Condi Rice, Liz Dole, Elaine Chao, Mary Peters, Margaret Spellings, Sarah Palin)
The truth is that NOW is a leftist group, pretty insignificant at that, about 100,000 members and is only interested in advocating for leftist causes. It should be called the National Organization for Leftist Women because general issues about women go beyond abortion rights but they fight timidly for those issues. They were pretty quiet when Billy was groping and accused of rape, but since he represented those leftist women's rights they just 'layed back and enjoyed it'. Now if that had been a republican, they would have been really representing women's, protesting, sitting in, standing up or whatever. But not with Bill and certainly not in defense of a woman presented with an opportunity of historic proportions without riding the coattails of a man.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 1:40:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by loonz in reply to proudconservative
The issue is that NOW cares only about abortion rights and fighting social conservatism.
Social conservatism equals patriarchalism. NOW doesn't feel like returning to the bad old days where men were considered superior to women.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 4:57:06 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by loonz in reply to proudconservative
They were pretty quiet when Billy was groping and accused of rape, but since he represented those leftist women's rights they just 'layed back and enjoyed it'.
How should NOW have reacted to these he said, she said situations?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 5:01:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by proudconservative in reply to loonz
lastloony,
He said she said? We first believe the woman and ask questions later, remember Anita Hill. http://www.now.org/issues/harass/anitahil.html One year later they are wearing we believe Anita Hill tee-shirts. That was based on his pro-life stance which could only mean he hates women I guess.
When Bob Packwood had to resign, as well he should have, it was after 3 years of confrontation and demands by NOW. http://www.now.org/issues/harass/anitahil.html
But a serial abuser is given a free pass because he wasn't a republican. NOW tepidly says that if what happened with Paula Jones, we should just let the courts decide. No protests, no demands for resignations. When he is confronted by the Senate about his abuse of an intern here's how NOW stood up for women when abused by their superiors. http://www.now.org/actions/impeachment-senators.html
Here's how they two-stepped around the billster's investigation...... "We have said from the beginning that no CEO and no elected official, including the president, should take advantage of the aphrodisiac of power to have sex with interns or staff." Sounds pretty good, huh?
But in the same release, NOW deliberately chooses to minimize that type of abuse by the former abuser in chief.... "After all this time and money, it appears Ken Starr has found nothing to pin on the Clintons – nothing on Whitewater, nothing on Filegate, nothing on Travelgate – nothing more than some sort of consensual relationship between Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky."
Two paragraphs later they call it 'some sort of consensual relationship' when they claimed from the beginning to be against it. What a load of crap from NOW. http://www.now.org/press/08-98/08-17-98.html
Kathleen Wiley and Juanita Broaderick? Their accusations are ignored by the National Organization of Leftist Women. Why? It is because of their religion and it's sacriment of abortion.
Loony, if only it were about he said...she said.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 9:42:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by loonz in reply to proudconservative
He said she said? We first believe the woman and ask questions later, remember Anita Hill. http://www.now.org/issues/harass/anitahil.html One year later they are wearing we believe Anita Hill tee-shirts. That was based on his pro-life stance which could only mean he hates women I guess.
I stand corrected. It looks like they believed Hill and they stood behind her and apparently they believed Clinton. The pro-life stance is a separate issue.
When Bob Packwood had to resign, as well he should have, it was after 3 years of confrontation and demands by NOW. http://www.now.org/issues/harass/anitahil.html
Who is Bob Packwood? And only a guilty person would resign, no?
But a serial abuser is given a free pass because he wasn't a republican. NOW tepidly says that if what happened with Paula Jones, we should just let the courts decide. No protests, no demands for resignations. When he is confronted by the Senate about his abuse of an intern here's how NOW stood up for women when abused by their superiors. http://www.now.org/actions/impeachment-senators.html
The Paula Jones lawsuit was thrown out of court because she couldn't back up her claims.
There was no abuse of an intern. Lewinsky pursued him.
Kathleen Wiley and Juanita Broaderick? Their accusations are ignored by the National Organization of Leftist Women. Why? It is because of their religion and it's sacriment of abortion.
Why do you keep on pointing to abortion when you have no idea why they made the decisions they made?
Broderick's claims were 20 years old and couldn't be substantiated. Wiley's claims couldn't be substantiated.
I think NOW took the claims with a grain of salt because there was a concerted effort by the right to bring down Clintons (the founder of this site was apart of that effort). It was hard to tell truth from fiction.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 12:45:22 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by proudconservative in reply to loonz
zedeloony,
Let's talk you down from this:
First, they believed Anita Hill because of his anti-abortion views demonstrated through his writings. When Ms. Hill made her accustions they were in some cases over a decade old and had since asked to work with Justice Thomas after the alleged incidents! But she was to be believed because even if she followed him to other positions, she was not free to be rid of his alleged harassment because he was the boss and that power dynamic made her too weak to say no to him. Even if she asked him to hire her after he was promoted elsewhere.
Looney, that's no he said she said, that was an attempt to prevent any movement toward life in the court. Abortion was the reason to try and stop his appointment to the Supreme Court.
Now, when ole Billy hits the scene, that 'power dynamic' or aphrodisiac is ignore when he engages in a 'consensual' sex act, the first day he meets her. No way was that a powerful boss taking advantage of a 21 year old intern. It's like a principal getting oral from a new student teacher in his office on her first day on the job. Most people would demand that principal's resignation but not NOW, now when the boss was Billy and he was getting 'stalked' by Monica. NOW did what judges used to say to women who had been raped, 'Just lay back and enjoy it' because it comes down to he said, she said anyway.
When Juanita Broderick claimed to have been raped NOW stood idley buy their man. Read these and tell me that if a pro-lifer, republican had done this, no one think this needed closer scrutiny.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/clinton/stories/broaddrick022599.htm
http://www.apfn.org/apfn/Juanita.htm
NOW is a calculating political agent for abortion. It cares nothing for women, except those who suscribe to their LEFTIST agenda.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 9:55:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to proudconservative
Pinkpuppy....oh, how cute and sweet, but words of endearment won't sway my original opinion.
And, thank you, but we saw the actual quote and it doesn't change a thing.
Women rights are about having the freedom of CHOICE....not the choice that others want to impose on your bodies. Women can choose to have a baby, choose birth control, or even abortion.
I am Pro-choice, but I would like abortion to be a last resort. I can't tell other women what to choose. I want women to have the right to choose, but I hope that some day soon, abortion will be something that is rarely chosen....through the use of better education, available birth control,and assistance for single moms....not by law.
Unfortunately, Sarah Palin and other like her think they can make the choice for every other woman. They want to end all abortion except for life and death situations. They aren't there for the moms who choose to have their babies. They are against sex education, and want pharmacies to be able to refuse filing prescriptions for birth control.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 7:04:11 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by proudconservative in reply to Graydogs
grayladydown,
When during gestation does the baby begin to have rights?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 9:01:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels in reply to proudconservative
Read the Constitution....read your bible....aren't the answers in either of those books. What a silly question!!!!
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 11:49:49 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to proudconservative
"They are disappointed about her views, but feel no pride that this is a woman that has accomplished something significant for women" -- PC
I agree 100%! It is like those silly Jews who feel no pride that Hitler was partly Jewish and yet rose to the highest level of the German government despite massive oppression of Jews elsewhere in the world. Can you believe that?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:05:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by proudconservative in reply to open_mind
closed(andsynapticallychallenged)cranium,
What a wonderfully crafted analogy! Seems to me though, she's not saying she's not a woman, the left is. She's not advocating the destruction of womanhood, the left is. And most women aren't part of the leftist NOW, only a few are.
Facts are, NOW only cares about the left, not women of conscience who attain great things without the help of men.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 1:52:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by loonz in reply to proudconservative
Seems to me though, she's not saying she's not a woman, the left is.
No one said she wasn't a woman - how else could she enter the Miss Alaska beauty pageant? From what little we know of her, her views are in tune with the vast majority of conservative men and out of step with everyone else.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 4:43:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to proudconservative
"Facts are, NOW only cares about the left, not women of conscience who attain great things without the help of men."--PC
So you've convinced yourself that Palin attained this post without the help of men? What exactly do you think McCain is? Which pundit told you to believe this pile of steaming poo?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 9:28:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by proudconservative in reply to open_mind
NOW loves women like Condi Rice, Elaine Chao, Mary Peters, Margaret Spellings. These make up a Presidential Cabinet that has more women sitting on it in all of our country's history. Why if it's about women moving forward are these recognized by NOW?
Sarah Palin became a governor without coattailing a man. She was chosen to be a VP because of what she offered to a party that needed a stronger conservative presence on the ticket. Now as for Mrs. Clinton, would she be anything without putting up with a husband that humilated her throughout his political career? She stood by her man, not on her own merits to get to this point in her life? Her choosing but with some pretty tough calculations on her part.
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Posted by vysotsky
I love how Hannity takes issue with Palin being likened to a man, yet misidentifies the quote as coming from NOW's 'spokesman' rather than a spokeswoman for NOW.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:20:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skettle2000
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 1:35:18 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered
Hannity charges:
“ The National Organization of Liberal Women is charging that Sarah Palin -- now, you better sit down for this -- Sarah Palin is really a man”.--SH
And backs that up with:
“...spokesman for the National Organization for Women, "noting Palin's opposition to abortion rights and" her "support of other parts of the social conservative agenda," told the Politico, quote, "She's more a conservative man than she is a woman on women's issues. Very disappointing."—SH
When obviously what NOW meant was, "She's more LIKE a conservative man than she is a woman on women's issues.” It would be similar to referring to Justice Clarence Thomas as "more like a conservative Southerner than he is a minority on minority issues." The concept is simple. Surely they understood the true intent.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 2:01:39 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered in reply to eddy3957 reregistered
Sorry Graydogs, I see you added "like" yesterday evening 9:51:25 P.M..
Brings to mind the 6000 comments on the Murphy-Noonan hot mike article at Huffington Post. How do those people post with any confidence they're not duplicating?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 2:32:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to eddy3957 reregistered
Eddy........ Unless you look at every post and check each time you start a comment, I suppose there can be several of the same comment. These comment sections are often a muddled mess aren't they......reply to a comment, and your comment is two below, but 15 people reply to the reply left above you, and others reply to the replies.......... Always fun trying to follow these threads!
The good part is that you understood the "like" part as well....and unfortunately a few didn't get it. You re-capped it well!
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 6:34:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by eddy3957 reregistered
This makes me sad.
Hannity says:
"They have tried to destroy this woman. They have assassinated her character."
And then only a few breaths later participates in the scurrilous questioning of a great party's Presidential nominee's sexuality:
LEVIN: Obama's obsessed with you.
HANNITY: It's kind of weird, isn't it?
LEVIN: Maybe he's attracted to you.
HANNITY: [laughs]
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 2:12:01 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by annes10 in reply to eddy3957 reregistered
For every point that Levin harps on against Obama with lies there is now a corresponding worse point against Palin that is actually true. Oddly karmic, yes? Like fof Stu praying for rainout of the DNC convention, then the first day of the RNC convention gets called on account of Gustav.
Levin vilifies Obama's acquaintanceship with unrepentant terrorist (phrase so katchy, all the pundits use it! - but who actually has been mainstreamed for years now) Bill Ayers -- Palin has a years-long association with AIP whose founder Joe Vogler, a home-grown terrorist type from Alaska who died during a plastic-explosives sale gone bad, so presumably he is still unrepentant too.
Levin claims Obama is a marxist (huh? Levin can't even check the dictionary before he starts a rant - please show me where Obama advocates the USA government taking over all industry in the whole country, phuh, it is just not TRUE), while Palin has almost 2 decades association with a GENUINE Alaska secessionist party.
Levin assailed without cause Michelle Obama's patriotism quotient, but so far as I have been able to tolerate, has ignored Todd Palin's membership in AIP. (I'm not particularly up-to-date with Levin's rants, I haven't been able to tolerate his shrill shouting for more than 3-4 minutes the last few weeks so haven't been able to catch him excoriating Todd -- which he might very well have done when I wasn't listening, right?).
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:48:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by skettle2000
I tell you though if this woman was married to me, I would be staying home doing the dishes, cleaning up, watching the kids. She has more strength than any man I have seen. I could not stand up to her in any way. What is the big problem with having the baby if it won't kill you ?
If you girls would give her a chance she will show you how to get power and how to be happy AND keep the baby. You just have to listen is all.. she learned something along the way, not sure way, but there is something inside her that is special.
Thanks MMFA - you have a great volunteer squad of really hard working people and provide free kool aid when we get thirsty.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:08:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to skettle2000
If a woman wants to have her body remain pregnant, then no one is stopping her.
The issue is whether or not you allow a woman to control her own body, and decide whether or not she will be forced to remain pregnant against her desire to discontinue being pregnant!
You, apparently, are willing to force the woman to cede control of her body to a non-viable fetus.
The US Supreme Court has said that that's not okay - a woman has the right to control her own body, and that means she has the right to decide to stop being pregnant when the fetus is non-viable.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:36:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by proudconservative in reply to BottleBlonde
chemicallyenhancedblondness,
At what time during gestation does a baby become viable?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 2:00:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels in reply to proudconservative
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Posted by mercado
Sean,where's the millions you raised from your faux Freedom Concerts? How come you're not out there raising money for the wounded and the KIA's this year with your phoney "Pat me on my back one more time, I'm a great american?"
Hannity you're a "In the closet gay fraud" and your time in the lime-light is coming to an end!
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:29:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eddy3957 reregistered in reply to mercado
"Pat me on my back one more time, I'm a great american?"
My translation of this is, "Sean, despite the fact that we all know you're not a great American because you're not even a real American to begin with, we are going to pretend that you are because you're doing the dirty work we'd rather not get our fingerprints on." But the other way's quicker.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 3:02:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by whillenbrand
OK enough of these irrelevent discussions! lets get back to the business of what we all know as the "levity of Levin". Lets show that comical little scamp that we are onboard with his cybical and hatefull brand of comedy.
FIll in the blanks ya big dope! Thank me very much!
Well, I guess that would make Levin's wife a lifetime member!
sorry -that was cheap, but....
Stewie asks: Levins wife is so ugly.....
How Ugly is she, replied Brian
We all respond: His wife is so ugly that.... _____ ________ _________ _________
____ _____ _____
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:58:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jmh
The link you provided kicks back emails as Delivery Status Notification (Failure)
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 3:15:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fishergirlusmc
Bottleblonde,
Have you ever seen the documentary on National Geographic called IN THE WOMB? Or the second one they ran called In The Womb Multiples? I think maybe you should because I must admit it made me rethink the time frame at which abortion is wrong. I had an abortion when I was 14 due to rape and part of me felt it was a monster and later on in my life I went thru a period of guilt also. I absolutely believe in the right to choose but as women when is it not right? Partial birth abotion is a terrible thing and should be used only when the mothers life is in danger.
I often read people who say it's not alife until it falls out of you,but morally if you are seven months pregnant and you want your baby and some nut stabs you in the womb and kills your baby, isn't this murder?
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 3:22:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to fishergirlusmc
If I may...
"I had an abortion when I was 14 due to rape and part of me felt it was a monster and later on in my life I went thru a period of guilt also."
Do you think you would have felt much better giving birth at that age? No need to tell me, just something for you to consider. Palin's position of forcing someone in your position to give birth is part of what makes her such an extremist. What happened to you is terrible enough as it was, without having that on top of it.
"I absolutely believe in the right to choose but as women when is it not right? Partial birth abotion is a terrible thing and should be used only when the mothers life is in danger."
I don't know who thinks "partial birth abortion" should be used any other time. It's not on the table as far as the discussion goes.
"I often read people who say it's not alife until it falls out of you,but morally if you are seven months pregnant and you want your baby and some nut stabs you in the womb and kills your baby, isn't this murder?"
Absolutely. At that point a woman would have committed yourself to giving birth, and that woman wants to give birth, both of which are important considerations. The value of any potential life relies on the willingness of the woman (and society) to bring that life into the world. This might not be as clear-cut legally, but in my opinion that would definitely be murder in a moral sense.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 8:39:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mercado
Here's a question for the Pro-Life Wankers:
You (The Republicans) had complete control of all the 3 branches of the government for the 1st 6 years of the Bush Adminisration, why didn't you pass a law giving the Fetus from the moment of conception a Social Security Number, like the 99.9% of live Americans have? Why was this never brought up? You all know that once Roe V Wade is overturned, the Republican Party will cease to exist! Heck! it might cease to exist after November 4 General Election!
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 6:08:19 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skettle2000 in reply to mercado
Exactly. So don't worry about voting for Sarah Palin based on some crazy, paranoid feeling that somehow she will be able to overturn roe vs wade.
It is a non-issue. It divides women and because of it you won't get in someone like Sarah that will REVOLUTIONIZE the power of women in society.
This is your chance. You girls get all emotional and don't think about political practicalities and end up losing out. Politics is a game. The GOP is not so stupid as to force you to carry a baby .. NON-ISSUE.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 6:14:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to skettle2000
DUH.....
"Larry Kudlow of CNBC's "Kudlow & Co." asked her about the possibility of becoming McCain's ticket mate.
Palin replied: "As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day? I'm used to being very productive and working real hard in an administration. We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for Alaskans and for the things that we're trying to accomplish up here for the rest of the U.S., before I can even start addressing that question."....." Politico Aug. 29th 2008
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 7:36:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Lorelei in reply to Graydogs
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 10:03:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Graydogs in reply to Lorelei
Actually, this should be in bold type as well.....this sounds like something from a high school student instead of a governor.
She accepted the VP candidacy, so she must have made sure the office of VP was a "fruitful type of position".
Palin: "We want to make sure that that VP slot would be a fruitful type of position"
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 11:48:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels in reply to Graydogs
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Posted by fishergirlusmc
dear barbanito,
you and I agree 100 percent. I would not want to be forced into giving birth and no it would have been horrible for me to do so. I have chosen to not have children. I do not think Roe v Wade will ever be overturned nor should it. It is settled law and this country would go thru a civil war that is unimaginable. I have not heard any serious politician in recent memory to even try to put this forward.[Thank God]Partial birth abortion is another issue and there are some who believe this procedure should be performed even when the life of the mother is not at stake. We as humans must draw the line somewhere. Thank you for your response.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 9:39:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by finarfin
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Posted by dbeden4153 in reply to finarfin
do you have statistics saying they are not? Isn't it all relative anyway?
It's a shot at demeaning the NOW organization with nothing more than a hateful stereotype. But I hardly doubt you're going to realize this.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 6:08:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skettle2000
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Posted by moe in reply to skettle2000
My friends, not only will this combination of Mother Theresa, Joan of Arc and Henny Youngman revitalize Washington, she’ll give it a nice shine, a beehive hairdo and smack upside its head with the butt-end of hunting rifle (I imagine the kind one would use to shoot moose).
America is indeed in love (if not outright lust) with our bee-hived Sarah of the North; at least 99% are and the remaining 1% consists of angry libs who have never been to Alaska so who cares.
As “The Pristine One” (I just made that up but America will love it) spoke at the convention I was reminded of MLK’s “I have a dream…” speech, JFK’s “Ask not what your country can do for you...” speech and Christ’s Sermon on the Mount. All MEN by the way.
PS – don’t try putting lip stick on your pit-bull – trust me, it doesn’t go well.
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