Getting helath care without having to shop all over the country is a "talking point?"

Jarrett has proven that even outright stupidity is no disqualification for working at Fox "news."

He has what's called an earphone in his ear. He's salaried, and he does not act on his own.

That's what I was thinking too. I can imagine his boss screaming in his ear "we'll shut down her mike if she doesn't stop!"

This is shameful.

well, they call themselves " FOX News ". Should be " FOX Management of News "

The shameful things is how the republican woman was smiling as if this was planned before hand.  Another one of Mr. Murdocs tactics.  It not real journalism anyway when the subject cannot be scrutinized.  Everytime someone ask a legitimate question it is sexism, the same question that has been asked for the past 20 months of Mr. Obama.  That is a ploy that Mr. McCain depended on, but at some point, it's going to have to happen.

So this is the future of our media.......

I weep for this country!

My heart breaks at the very thought!

Which is worse? That FoxNoise is as popular as it is or that Grampy and his little rightwing sidekick actually have a shot at winning in Nov?

Yep, in the tank for McCain.

And this surprises anyone?

Oh my goodness, an O'Reilly mini-me in training.

Nah, he didn't tell either of them that they would make great pole dancers.

Mini me? Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!

A shining example of whats wrong with cable news today.

A junior wannabe husbanding two bimbos through an utterly stupid waste of air time...none of the three had anything worthwhile to say and could have gotten there points across by just standing silently on-screen and holding up their respective campaign placards.

You're right.  Got to fill up space on the 24 hr news cycle.

sexist!!!

Two Bimbos?

I guess we know what side of the street you hang your balls on. 

The problem, which you almost tripped over, is that the person in the middle should not be holding a campaign placard.

Right on.  Journalists are supposed to be as objective as possible, not toss softballs to your "side", then imply that the other person is your enemy which you must cast in a negative light.

Faux Gnus is the dark side of television; the antichrist of journalism; the three stooges of reporting; the bane of Philo Farnsworth.

well, Chris Mathews over there at MSNBC also interviewed (?) Nancy Pfotenhauer and got her on tape now saying the McCain administration will have an entirely new group of people advising him, not the old Bushies. In all fairness she did not say exactly that but refused to answer a direct question and danced aroud Mathews. I think that is why you don't see bush and company around right now, until after Nov 4 for sure. I don'yt trust a word McCain ( or Nancy Pfotenhauer ) say.

Yeah, there it is. Censor censor censor. Shut off the mikes when the discussion gets too hot. Straight outta the Bob Grant Handbook on Hate Broadcasting.

You assholes on the Right... I swear to god... such absolute trash. Jarrett and Fox can go Cheney themselves. And I'm still pissed that Obama caved in and went on Billo's joint. Dumb move, IMO.

Fox does not deserve any shred of respect and validation from our side. That crew is the enemy.

Going there once is ok, IMO (similar to talking with your enemies). But after seeing how his interview will be mis-represented, mis-construed (sure to happen), repeating it will be a mistake.

and, I am guessing that the blonde on the right of the screen is a Republican (I did not even view the clip).

Crimminy, the Dems need to get a CLUE....

Background on repub....MCCAIN everywhere

Background on dem......could you even tell it was for Obama?

 

Even I know this much from local campaign activism, put you name everywhere!  Let people know this person represents you.

 ok, done...it just ticks me off when i see glaring crap like that.

 

her name is Nancy Pfotenhauer and she is sa senior mccain mouthpiece and from her performance in Hardball, she is as bushie as it can get. As a matter of fact she looks just like the White House press secretary ( I just blanked out on her name )

Dana Perino

I think it's good that he went on, that's what you do when you have nothing to hide and you are qualified.  Listen I with all my heart believe that the American electorate mostly consist of confident intelligent people.  They see through this fiasco.  I am 60 years old, and have voted in many elections, however, I have never ever seen anything like this circus.  Our democracy has become a mockery.  No one is crying foul!  When Mr. Obama eluded the press because he wanted some time with Mrs. Clinton alone, the press made such a big deal of that, exclaiming that the media is suppose to have access, etc.  If women want to hold a position the same as men they should be required to go through the same examination or it should be seen as reverse sexism.  If the Governor is so intelligent and qualified, I don't see the problem she will be employed by the American people, therefore we should be able to interview her.  More that 18 million people accepted Mr. Obama's application.

it doesn't matter what you say, you should be entitled to say it.  both sides have "talking points", and they should be judged on the basis of what they are.   not dismissed by some partisan host as invalid and unworthy of airtime.  fair and balanced is supposed to mean something.

Max Dharma is going to justify this for sure and say it was free speech.

what I noticed here is that both Science101 and Leatherhelmet have disappeared .. Wonder if max is a reincarnation ??

This is even more insane when you remember that the Bush Administration and righties around the nation recently admitted that they used rightwing talking points sent out by the Bush Administration!

And it's liberals who are illegitimately using talking points? Just a bunch of crapola.

As always with Fox (and most other outlets, too) only one side gets abused.

How are those "fair and balanced" and "we report, you decide" slogans looking now?

Talking about Americans having to shop around for health care is a "talking point" but accusing Obama over and over and over over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over isn't a "talking point"?

I meant to say "accusing Obama of raising taxes (on middle America)" which isn't true.

I like your style ;-)  Your mike is going strong...

That was awful... that was as awful as it gets. And the guy, he not once but twice introduces the Obama campaign spokesperson by saying that the Obama campaign is getting "women out there to criticize the woman on the ticket", and "using women here, as surrogates, to attack Sarah Palin"

I'd say this stuff was unbelievable, except that I believe it, I know it, of Fox News Channel.

And another thing, this Fox hack and his "I'll shut down the microphone" threat.

Who does he think he is? Does he and News Corp. think they own the Public Airwaves?

Now more than ever, the American People need to reclaim their Public Property, the Public Resource that is the Public Airwaves, from the private corporate television broadcasters (News Corp., Time-Warner, Disney, General Electric, and CBS... that's it, that's all of them!) that have taken the Public Airwaves as their own property, to use for their own private purposes, which in these matters are to influence and manipulate the political opinions of the American People...

It's a privileged use of a precious Public Resource, and these few companies are abusing that privilege to their own political ends, and we need to reclaim the Public Airwaves for ourselves, as our own Public Property, and we need to do it by way of the FCC under the next administration of our Federal Government.

"I'll shut down the microphone" 

Who the freak do these hacks think they are anyway?

Not to disagree with your sentiments, Dem, but Faux Snooze is on cable, not "our" airwaves.  

Anything, and I do mean anything, on FUX "news" is an insult to the intelligence of anyone over the age of 2, and Jarrett is certainly no exception.  But even more telling is using the phrase "...to attack Sarah Palin..."  To be honest, I haven't heard any attacks.  I've heard questions posed as they should be about anyone, regardless of gender, who could be elected (god help us) to the second highest office in the country.  Are we to just ignore her?

Isn't Alan Colmes a liberal?

In theory, anyway.

 

If people on Fox were cut off for using talking points, they would be running infomercials in prime time. 

Alan Colmes is a liberal who gets approximately 4 minutes to cross-examine whichever rightwing sycophant happens to be sitting between him and hannity.  Given his circumstances, I think he generally does a pretty good job of it, despite the general consensus of the left.

The problem that you may notice is that on NONE of these shows do they bring on non-partisan experts in ANY subject that they're addressing.  You get "fair and balanced" punditry - sycophants on the right vs. sycophants on the left.  The truth is not halfway between "a bear craps in the woods" and "a bear does NOT crap in the woods".  When was the last time you saw a news program bring on an economist to analyze the statement "tax breaks create jobs"?  You don't.  You get hannity asking Dick Morris if it's true, and Colmes getting 3 sentences in to argue with him, and that's where the conversation ends.  And your typical ignorant H & C viewer ends up with absolutely NO substantive information regarding the topic, and actually comes away dumber from having watched it because they THINK they know more about the subject now.

And in case you didn't already infer that I'm a little bothered by this, let me leave no doubt.  This kind of infotainment is the REAL reason we've got Iraq, economy in the crapper, and domestic spying right now.  It's the reason that Bush won't be impeached.  It's the reason that we're no more than a hair's width away from voting as a nation, one more time, to put our futures into the hands of a group of people who will literally kill, maim, ignore suffering, and condemn future generations to make a dollar and retain power.  An informed citizenry would not let this happen.  With McCain and Obama running neck and neck, it's apparent that we do not have informed citizens.  And the guys at the top of the news and broadcasting empire are perfectly happy, because we have endless controversy, and that makes for good ratings and great advertising revenue.

Neon, so well put.  thank you.  I wish the above could appear in every newspaper.  People would be much better off watching cable rabbit.

sorry its an insult to anyone over the age of a "fetus"  you forget who you are talking about?

Sometimes

...if given a chance

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gawd, i detest republicans...

more and more

Sorry, Had a bad lunch today, we discussed politics and the damn waiter informed me that he would never vote for that communist Obama! 

I hope you tipped him with a penny.

no, he didn't get a tip, not to mention after the conversation, I was afraid to EAT the food!

they have themselves convinced that Obama is a muslim and a socialist ( remember communism is a form of socialism ) and they are trying ( desperately i might add ) to convince the electorate that is true. Common for of scare tactics. I hear this muslim lie and socialist talk quite often here.

The use of the word "commie" is taking on Joseph McCarthy proportions. Not that I know that waiter's level of education, but how can anyone banter the term without knowing the idealogy except whatever propaganda they believe. Sheesh.

What kind of idiot waiter shares his views on politics, religion or any other topic with the potential for controversy or offense with a customer? 

A right-wing waiter, obviously. Duh! :)

I am currently overseas in the actual front on the War on "terrrur" and I have Soldiers who say they would never vote for "that Muslim Obama". It is shameful that I have to inform them that he is a Christian, not Muslim. We have ensured that the Soldiers (who want to vote) have submitted absentee ballots. It is mind boggling the percentage of Soldiers who don't vote. 

Nice to hear from you again NG. Stay safe.

I'm saddened to hear that many soldiers don't vote. Especially since the voting age was 21 in the sixties and seventies when tens of thousands gave their lives fighting another war.

Keep in touch if possible.

Excellent point, King.

The bulk of the kids sent to give their lives in Nam didn't even have a say in the workings of the country for which they were dying.  Now that they have a say, they're declining to do so?

I'm curious, NG.  How easily can one become informed on the issues over there?

It is very easy to get information over here. We have internet access in our hooches (we pay for it of course). The problem is the "news" websites the Soldiers choose to get their info from. Foxnews seems to be prevalent. We also get a version of Stars and Stripes here. Not very balanced on the Op Ed page, though. They seem to like to print Ann Coulter a lot. But i did see an article from Arianna Huffington, so....

Sorry it took so long for the response. I am 10 1/2 hours ahead here

NG thanks for the work you are doing for our country.  My daughter and Son in law does also so it is special to be.  Rock the Vote!

Another example of Fox News' censorship of a guest.

Someone - please - help me understand -- WHY do serious people continue to show up and debate ANY of the FAUX rabble?  I'm reminded of the definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over, expecting a different result...

The media has only gotten worse over the years.

No matter how much we complain, nothing changes for the better. 

I really think we need to directly boycott the mainstream media.  That seems to be the only way they get the message.  Call their advertisers and truly do not use their products until they take action.  Drive the bad corporate media out of business.  We must not condone this.

Our standards have fallen so dramatically.  Thank goddess for Media Matters, so that I don't have to watch TV to know what's going on.  However, I believe that writing them letters no longer has any impact.  It only gives them more hits on their websites that allow them to go out and convince advertisers that they are 'popular' or highly rated.

 

The joke is, Obama is not even remotely liberal.

And now they are trying to make 'liberal' a 'bad word'.  So forget going to a 'liberal arts' college.  In addition, with the trailer trash called Palin that they are promoting for VP [and one heartbeat away from President - OMIGOD!!  I mean really!!??!!]  they have been putting down the fact that Obama went to an ivy league school.  Culturally, this country has been moving lower and lower, and now we are promoting that our kids not go to college, and just sit home and be racist, sexist, fundamentalists.

And when exactly did it become acceptable to say the things that are said on national television?

When did it become acceptable to blatantly lie?  As a candidate for the office of the President of the US, no less?  As a network talking head?

We must shut them down.  The only way is to call the people that pay their bills [the advertisers].  And PLEASE don't watch any of their shows or visit any of their websites, or read any of their papers.

And Murdoch owns Myspace.  Don't go there anymore.

Allan Colmes is not a liberal by the way.  They pay him to play a part and act wimpy so that they can say "See?  This is a namby pamby liberal."  And then these pigs beat up on him on the air.

This is 'News' or even "Entertainment"?

Don't get mad any more.  Get even.  Shut them down.

C'mon everybody, cut Jarret a break here.  I don't watch Jarret much, but I'm sure that he threatens to cut off Republicans' mics 6 or 7 times a day for using talking points and speaking for more than 45 seconds straight.  Fox News can't allow that.  Jarret was totally justified.  Liberals... I mean, guests can't be allowed to hog Fox News' valueable air time like that.

Oh the irony.  FOX doesn't want someone to use talking points.  Well at least they don't want to hear Democratic talking points.  They sure are fair and balanced.

We've got a clear choice in this election.  We have yet to see if the Republicans are on to something about the American public.  That they shun reason arguments and would rather be ruled by fear and ignorance then have an opportunity for hope and change.  i think the conservatives are cynical, wrong , and shortshighted, but proving them wrong must come with the hard work of shooting down every lie and half-truth that comes out of their mouths. Write to Faux News and tell them what you think about this incident, don't let them go unchallenged.

Here's more from Juan Cole in a article i found on the commondreams.org website :  As for Sarah Palin, her spiteful and snarky dismissal of Barack Obama and community organizers recalls the Tina Fey film "Mean Girls." Palin, the former beauty queen who posed in a red, white and blue bikini with a gun, is very like the leader of the Plastics clique in "Mean Girls," the Rachel McAdams character, Regina George. Her clique sets the standard for style at school, establishing itself at the top of the social hierarchy by its regimented exclusiveness. Those who are in any way different are put down by the Plastics, who crow about their superiority just as Palin exults in her (largely non-existent) "executive experience." Although the surface narrative of Sarah Palin is her everywoman small town ordinariness, the subtext is that she is special, as capable of shooting a tiger as Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin and as at the same time a veritable Miss World. The McCain camp is hoping that the American common person will be seduced into Palin's Plastic clique just as the Lindsay Lohan character was in the film. (Lohan's character was initially an outsider, having returned from Africa . . .)

The classic Mean Girl tactics are snark, put-downs and spreading around false rumors about people you don't like. When Palin falsely charged that Obama planned to raise taxes on middle class people, or blamed Senate majority leader Harry Reid for inaction even though it was the Republican plurality in the Senate that rejected most of his initiatives, she is playing classic Regina, declaring who is in the Plastic clique and who is outside. Even the boasting about being a soccer mom is a claim on status (poor women are not soccer moms, and how many minority women are?)

Palin's put-down of Obama that he lacks executive experience (unlike her own superior Mean Girl self) makes it sound as though she had run something bigger than he had. But Obama has been head of a political campaign with hundreds of thousands of workers and volunteers. Doesn't a campaign head organize people and give orders and plan strategy and tactics, i.e., act in an executive capacity? Isn't that what Barack Obama has been doing for two years and hasn't he proven that he is an excellent executive in this endeavor? Only 114,000 or so people voted to make Palin governor in 2006. In contrast, Obama's executive performance as head of his presidential campaign garnered him 18 million votes.

Rambo and the Mean Girl are narratives intended as what magicians call misdirection.

The Republican Party has given us a failed war in Iraq. None of the stated Bush administration goals in invading Iraq were ever actually accomplished. No threat from Iraq existed, it was completely unrelated to 9/11,had no serious weaponry or military capability, and is not 'liberated' but rather occupied. The government installed under US auspices is best friends with the ayatollahs in Iran and may actually be taking orders from them on some issues.

McCain wholeheartedly supported that war from before it was launched. Yet McRambo is posing as a challenger of the war, and is rebranding this burned-out hulk of a country that he helped to destroy as a "victory."

The Republican Party gave us a long list of massive scandals, in which the American public was actively stolen from and defrauded, not to mention disenfranchised. That was the point of Jack Abramoff and his pyramid scheme intended to create a permanent Republican majority, so that the hogs at the trough could be propped up there and remain indefinitely a drain on your pocketbook. That was the point of Tom Delay's scam, and the many cases of embezzlement and sheer criminality by Republican lawmakers.

Rambo and the Mean Girl will tell you that they are the squeaky clean Republicans, not like all those other Republicans, and we should focus on them, not on all the crooks.

The Republican Party has massively grown the size of the federal government, including especially of the Pentagon, but Rambo and the Mean Girl are all of a sudden promising to fire every other government employee.

The Republican Party oversaw the mortgage crisis. But won't admit it, and neither will these two.

You want a narrative, about a war hero tortured by the confession he signed, or about a feisty soccer mom who cleaned out the Augean stables of Seward's Ice Box, then you have got it.

You want real policy positions and a rationale for them that goes beyond "I will make my friends rich," then you won't find that in the convention in Minnesota. © 2008 Juan Cole

Thanks Conger. That's a pretty good summary of what half of America is buying right now, complete BS.

And if Fox is planning to make a habit of cutting off mics anytime talking points are offered, they should get an old-timey organ player on the payroll.

Juan Cole is great, but that pic of her in the red, white, and blue bikini with a gun is Photoshopped.

So it's okay when the Republicans distort reality with their talking points.  When Democrats talk truthfully with their talking points, it's time to shut off the microphone.

So, what happened to freedom of speech?  Not to mention being "fair and balanced?"