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Mark Belling called Gloria Steinem a "grizzled old bag," "old witch"
Summary: Radio host Mark Belling called Gloria Steinem a "grizzled old bag," "old witch," and "embittered old has-been" and also stated that the "previous generation" of feminists "were so ugly you couldn't stand to look at them."
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Posted by ultrasanktpauli
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Posted by JLyons in reply to ultrasanktpauli
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Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to JLyons
"...sitting out in Los Angeles."
That's my favorite part.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:38:36 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Semiauto in reply to JLyons
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 6:01:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by my4cents1172 in reply to Semiauto
Never heard of the guy but we have someone very similar here in Boston.
Jay Severin.
If all these greater than middle aged to old white guys are not making their living out of affirmative action for radio waves, I do not know how.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 9:43:24 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by my4cents1172 in reply to my4cents1172
If you do not sympathize with above post, please read no further.
I have decided t continue my rant.
It appears to me that all talk radio does is peddle hate ,and whine, all the time. Sean Hannity blames it on hate Bush people. If there are any of them, I can understand their feelings.
May be they lost a loved one in an ill conceived war, may be they lost their job because of his policies, may be they cannot afford health care anymore (though he may not be directly responsible, he is the CEO of the country :) ), may be they are just partisan Democrats. But, they all have a reason.
But what reason do all these hate, fear peddling talk radio hosts have, other than that is the only way they can make their living? Most of them claim to be Conservative and/or Libertarian. They never let out the truth. They are all Republican hacks.
end of rant. Thanks for reading.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:00:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by funnyguy45 in reply to my4cents1172
You are right of course. Sadly, some of these people even consider themselves to be Christians! They have put many things ahead of the truth and basic principles of decency, honor, and respect. But they do make money. I would like to see a sociological study done of the middle-aged male talk show host. I think the divorce rate in this cohort would be remarkably above average. So many of them seem remarkably childish.
I listen to public radio myself almost completely these days, in small doses at a time. I hope the rest of the public tires of these earsores soon. I don't know if boycotting advertisers would make any difference, but it probably wouldn't hurt to try!
Posted Monday September 8, 2008 10:01:50 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kyle_Broflovski
I agree with Belling. By the time you're 74 years old, you're just too grizzled and old to be effective at anything. Seventy-somethings are just bitter about the fact that they're old, and they need to be put in their place! How dare these old people try and re-live the memories of their glory days, which are so far behind them they probably can't even remember them!!!
Yes, old people are horrible.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:23:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mrhebert74 in reply to Kyle_Broflovski
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Posted by ultrasanktpauli in reply to mrhebert74
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Posted by watershed in reply to ultrasanktpauli
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Posted by BlagoBoy
How can this me MISINFORMATION when it's TRUE
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:28:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to BlagoBoy
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:31:06 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to BlagoBoy
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Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to Kyle_Broflovski
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Posted by DorisRussell in reply to BlagoBoy
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Posted by RoberttheP in reply to DorisRussell
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:41:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by onionhead in reply to RoberttheP
I wonder the same thing every time I read your posts. BTW, she stated a fact.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:54:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DorisRussell in reply to onionhead
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:57:12 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by neon desert in reply to DorisRussell
I think he's just unsupervised. Folks probably locked the cellar door after leaving a plate of food, and headed to Frisco for the weekend.
He'll get sleepy soon. Things will get back to normal.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:28:18 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to RoberttheP
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Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to Brabantio
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Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to BlagoBoy
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Posted by wolf kotenberg
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Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to wolf kotenberg
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 4:47:57 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Wonderkitty in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
I'm pretty sure that's not his real hair - though, one must admit, it doesn't look like he got enough time to pose and try and look either happy or serious... half way between is not a good place to be.
Also, all due respect to the numerous supportive contemporary men who are here, but I've yet to meet the man who could talk to me about any aspect of the women's movement and not make me either cringe or want to slap him. Professional radio personalities usually fall into the latter category. This one didn't break the mold.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 7:21:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by watershed
I think I've resigned myself to the fact that the right wing media and Republican politicians don't pay a price for doing or saying stupid and embarrassing and truly offensive things. Like this clown, who probably GAINED a few listeners after this absurd rant.
Like the Walter Reed backdrop screwup. Not only do the people who are going to vote for McCain not care that he put Walter Reed Middle School (I still canot believe the depth of the f-up on that one) on his big TV there, but they actually think that people who go to the trouble of pointing that out are nitpicking and gay and probably want to take away everyone's guns and penises.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:03:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma
You see, old-school feminism was all about making it in the world on your own, *without* a man. The traditional role of a wife and mother was frowned upon by the feminist of yesterday.
Gloria Steinem is all hissy because Gov Sarah Palin breaks that old-school feminism mold and shows women that they can have it all .. looks, a handsome husband, lots of adorable kids and any gosh darn position in government they want.
Gov Sarah Palin proves that women don’t need to be man’ish to succeed, they only need to be talented.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:11:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Max Dharma
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:13:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to DAWUSS
Men today are less repressive and sexist, so women can bloom and grow on their own without a girl’s club support system.
Societies not yet perfect in this regard, but it’s getting better every year.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:24:12 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to Max Dharma
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:29:58 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to RABBITLUVR
I guess the days are gone when you can debate on wisdom alone.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:35:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by ukobserver in reply to Max Dharma
"I guess the days are gone when you can debate on wisdom alone."
After reading your posts here l have to ask, just when the f*** did you START debating on wisdom?
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:40:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to Max Dharma
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:46:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by neon desert in reply to RABBITLUVR
Ignore that request, Max.
You've already done way more than enough to prove we can add this to the list of subjects with which you're unfamiliar. Newsmax links, FrontPageMag links, even limpaugh links are unnecessary.
Time to move on and start dreaming stuff up for another subject.
By the way, just heard where the principal of Walter Reed middle school has written a letter to the McCain campaign saying she never gave permission to use the picture of the school as a backdrop last night.
sorry if there are errors above, but I can't proofread any of it because of the tears in my eyes...
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:38:14 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by watershed in reply to Max Dharma
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:34:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS in reply to watershed
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:36:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by neon desert in reply to DAWUSS
Most counties in Nevada, that's true.
Plus, they get a free AIDS check every month.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:41:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to neon desert
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 6:46:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by neon desert in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
The non-female parts are sold over-the-counter, but usually they're overpriced and don't include batteries.
I don't recall ever hearing of any female counter parts - but I'm sure you can get them online.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 8:47:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by susangee in reply to DAWUSS
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 7:20:36 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to watershed
I do believe that this is changing rapidly though and that we will see it vanish entirely within a short number of years.
Something worth noting when recounting this societal blemish is that this inequity is only in certain segments of our society. In other segments of our society this inequity is virtually non-existent.
In the last 20 years, I’ve had probably 3 female bosses. They were very well compensated (on par with their male peers) and were in no way discriminated against.
We have a ways to go, but we can get there without removing or somehow degrading being a wife and mother. A woman can be anything she wants to be without giving up on some of the most precious aspects of life.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:50:58 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by neon desert in reply to Max Dharma
In many counties in Nevada, women work in dens of inequity.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 6:02:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Semiauto in reply to Max Dharma
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 6:06:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to Semiauto
No mam. Most men in society today are secure enough and don’t need to resort to either physical or mental misogyny to feel empowered.
The feminists movements of the 60s hastened this awareness, but it was going to happen anyway.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 6:38:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to Max Dharma
Right, and Iraq would have come along just fine without the surge, as well?
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 7:05:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to Kyle_Broflovski
the two cannot be likened; sorry, but it is a retarded analogy.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:30:50 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by my4cents1172 in reply to Max Dharma
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:46:18 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to my4cents1172
No salaries were secret.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:33:10 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by MissDee in reply to watershed
Unless they're conservatives- then they deserve less, right??? I love how two faced liberals are about this stuff. It's llike the NOW- they're for all women UNLESS those women oppose abortion and other stuff that's principle based and outside of their ideology.. then they somehow become fair game for all the stuff they would oppose being applied to their cliquish little groups. Get over it- the worst misogynists of the past week ARE liberal women.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 8:58:50 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to MissDee
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:19:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Lorelei in reply to Max Dharma
Yah, thats why this particular man calls old women names right?
Must be only the young nubile ones they respect....right?
Oh no, they want those barefoot and bearing children and not have a choice in the matter.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:33:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to Lorelei
However a sour, resentful personality like yours will like be shunned in any environment.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:37:06 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by susangee in reply to Max Dharma
Max -- I have a feeling you are a teacher, right? That would explain the "matrix, blah, whatever" and the public access to salaries. I am a teacher and I understand that ALL teachers at the same "step" and with the same educational level earn the ame salary. How is this proof of income equity across the professional spectrum?
One more thing: do you know the meaning of the the word "sanctimonious"?
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 7:32:42 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to susangee
How is this proof of income equity across the professional spectrum?
I never said any such thing and did in fact say something quite different.
PS. And yes, I know the work sanctimonious, it means holier-than-thou.
It's really quite a lot of work to not sound holier-than-thou when speaking to liberals/secular progressives. :P
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:28:24 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by susangee in reply to Max Dharma
Oh, brother.
My reading comprehension is fine. Also, my ability to infer and generalize. You, however, might want to work a little harder on the sanctimonious thing.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:59:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by susangee in reply to Max Dharma
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Posted by Max Dharma in reply to susangee
Not at all .. but yours is a typical liberal style retort.
The fact that politics has been dominated by men "an old-boys club" is a demonstration of sexism in politics, however calling it an "an old-boys club" is not at all sexist; it simply is what it is.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:34:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by doggone-ga in reply to Max Dharma
"You see, old-school feminism was all about making it in the world on your own, *without* a man. The traditional role of a wife and mother was frowned upon by the feminist of yesterday."
Wrong on both counts. True, it was corrupted to the by a few odd-balls...but mainstream feminism was, and is, about equal rights, and equal opportunity, for both men AND women.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:41:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to doggone-ga
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Posted by Max Dharma in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Or someone that is more informed is trying to enlighten you.
You decide.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:43:01 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by susangee in reply to Max Dharma
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Posted by doggone-ga in reply to Max Dharma
"Or someone that is more informed is trying to enlighten you.
You decide."
You bet. I have decided. You don't have a clue that what you say has no basis in reality.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:44:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to doggone-ga
Yes, for today's feminists, no for those of the 60's.
We will just have to disagree.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:40:14 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to Max Dharma
Gov Sarah Palin proves that women don’t need to be man’ish to succeed, they only need to be talented.
All she's proven is that you've got to have good looks and catch the eye of an old geezer with the power to promote you.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:46:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to foghornleghorn
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Posted by Lorelei in reply to BottleBlonde
oogling his "soul-mate"
If I was Ms McCain I would be more than a little pissed.
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 10:37:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by manndan in reply to Lorelei
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 2:20:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to BottleBlonde
But yeah, if it were only you huh?
(Don't be such a goldfish)
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:51:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skeptical in reply to Max Dharma
Max,
You seem to neglect the fact that she is the protege of Senator Stevens. Turns out she did have a man in her life that got her where she is now.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 12:36:11 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to skeptical
(And in doing so has achieved 3x the experience as Obama.)
It's really weak to try to attribute all her success as a mayor and governor to some 3rd party .. really weak. Read up man, then we'll talk.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 1:57:17 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eweston8542983
Gloria was and is her own woman. This guy's bought and paid for.
Class does not depend on looks. Lack off class can use good looks as a crutch. Somehow the lack of class here shines though his mug.
Think he's had any nip tuck done?
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:31:24 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Max Dharma in reply to eweston8542983
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 2:04:18 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eweston8542983 in reply to Max Dharma
If the resentment affects her life then she isn't her own woman.
Try again.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 12:29:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by shaggles
"a 74-year-old, embittered, old has-been "
Wait a minute. Is he talking about McCain?
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 5:54:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by archae
Well well.
I live an hour's drive north of Milwaukee, and know of Belling all too well.
I laughed my head off, when ACT-UP threw just about the entire vegetable stand at Belling, for his hateful AIDS comments.
(I saw an egg hit him in one ear, I swear I saw it come out his other ear.) (grin)
Posted Friday September 5, 2008 6:13:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by eweston8542983 in reply to mikerhyner8202
Why would you think that? Put my coment in context, rate it, and show examples and numbers that support your thesis.
I can't recall tha last really creative insult directed at Shrub.
Posted Sunday September 7, 2008 12:33:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BillJ-MN in reply to mikerhyner8202
Steinam has been mch better for this country than WPE Bush has been.
Posted Saturday September 6, 2008 4:56:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jmh
Well, really just the fringe cult of Republicans that have ruled for the last decade.
What is amazing is how they face so little accountability for their
perpetual disdain of, hmm, well: People, America and its form of government, and yes, the Constitution.
They do, however, love the Flag, oh, and Guns, it seems, and, oddly enough, destroying the advances we have made, and the values that our ancestors fought, sacrificed and died for... did I forget to mention they love the Flag?... just not the nation for which it stands.
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Posted by Max Dharma in reply to jmh
Lol, that's classic .. I should make that my signature line. Do you mind?
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