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ABC's Gibson did not challenge earmark claim, much less inform viewers that McCain promoted a falsehood

Summary: In a September 3 interview, Charles Gibson did not challenge the claim by Sen. John McCain that after Sarah Palin obtained millions of dollars in earmarks as mayor of her home town, she "learned that earmarks are bad" when she became governor and said, "No more for my state." At no point did Gibson point out that as governor, Palin, by her own account, requested hundreds of millions of dollars in earmarks for Alaska just this year. ABC News did not air that part of the interview on the September 3 broadcast of World News, much less note that McCain was promoting a false claim.
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Posted by eweston8542983

I'm sure it was just an honesty mistake on her part. Same ole, same ole.

Posted by DAWUSS

How many mods are going to bring things like this up during the debates?

Posted by wzwriter in reply to DAWUSS

How many mods are going to bring things like this up during the debates?

Perhaps they should make it a requirement that both candidates be hooked up to lie detectors during the debate.  You'd see the mackine hooked up to Gramps McCain blow up midway through.....

Posted by historygeek001 in reply to wzwriter

WZ--maybe not.  He might not remember what really happened.  Can lie detectors be set up to register "confused?"

Posted by mefirst

mccain claims that palin said "we don't want the bridge to nowhere".  no, she said we want the federal government to pay for it.  watched the today show this morning, lauer was doing his best to talk her up.   i only heard excerpts of her speech,  but heard enough to know it was just the usual smugness and smarm that follows the bush playbook.  

i can't believe anyone thinks this family belongs in the white house.  she's another braindead mannequin repeating all the talking points.   perhaps it would be a good reality show.  the wasilla hillbillies, lots of cipherin' about the national debt, and cookin' moose stew down by the cement pond.

Posted by shaggles

There has been a little bit of critical reporting re: Palin and her lies but it hasn't crept in to the tv news yet.  They just keep repeating the same old GOP talking points without question.

Posted by Max Dharma in reply to shaggles

ABC's Gibson did not challenge earmark claim, ....

Media ignore "bridge to nowhere" falsehood in Palin speech, ....

Wallace did not challenge McCain's claim that Palin said ...

Without refuting it, AP, Bloomberg report Palin accusation that Obama ...

Boo - flying - hoo!

Everyone is being SO mean to Obama .. and it's all that evil Palin's fault!

I believe she's a witch, a witch I tell you!

It's a conspiracy !! She’s hypnotized the public!

Palin > golden boy obama

Posted by skeptical in reply to Max Dharma

Max man, change your meds, you are really flying off the handle now!

Posted by snoopy in reply to Max Dharma

Well, I'm not surprised with what just happened during the republican convention...

McCain To Enter ‘Stage Right’ at GOP Convention

By Don Davis

“I’M GOING TO BE BROUGHT OUT IN SHACKLES, IN A HANOI HILTON STYLE CELL, WHERE l’LL SINGLE-HANDEDLY OVERCOME MY NORTH VIETNAMESE GUARDS, THEN STOP AN ABORTION IN PROGRESS, AND FINISH UP BY DRILLING FOR OIL RIGHT THROUGH THE CONVENTION STAGE.”

Gidget and Geezer = B rated movie

Posted by eweston8542983 in reply to Max Dharma

Yah Micky picked up seven mil with his VP pick. Obama picked up eight mil. Yep its working really well for Micky.

So much so that I've finally made a contribution to Obama's campaign. And I'm sorry I'm not flush enought to send more.

Posted by NiceguyEddie in reply to Max Dharma

So... you LIKE being lied to, as long as it means your teams wins?  This isn't a ball-game, moron.  THEY ARE LYING TO YOU.  Pure and simple.  You like that in your politicians?  You like the last eight years?  How'd you do economically the eight years before that?  I'll never understand people like you.

Posted by open_mind in reply to Max Dharma

Hahaha.  Got to love the cons.  Now celebrity is cool again.  Thank you arbiters of what I am supposed to like and dislike.

Posted by edenscape246494

The RNC- Pale in comparison, many puns intended

So I'm driving home last night and I remember the Palin speech was supposed to be on, I flip over to the sewer that is the low end of the am dial and I find Ann Coulter going on a tirade.  She's basically strung together every debunked, exposed attack line the GOP dittoheads have been parroting all campaign long.  Midway through another litany of overused invective the announcer comes on and I nearly swerve off the road when he informs me that this isn't Ann Coulter but in fact is Palin speaking at the convention.  Jesus Tap Dancing Christ!  Are the Righty's nuts?  I've never seen a Christian lady lie so often in such a short period of time, all you need to do is google a news article or two and you can see that almost point for point the Palin speech was little more than a recap of the talk radio screed punctuated with laugh pauses.  The only thing laughable is that the Rightwingnuts think this is gonna play with Independants.  Now I know, I know, that the VPs job is to throw out red meat but when you start your speech with "pretty please mean old Liberal press of the East coast, don't hit me, I'm just a girl" it's a little hard to take your attack dog with lipstick schtick seriously.  I mean, come on, if you can't handle questions from a  domestic newspaper than how can you handle our countries enemies. 

People are looking for change and a partisan personal attack speech is just more of the same divisive tactics we've seen now for more than eight years.  For such an outsider she sure did look comfortable playing Dick Cheney in high heels, complete with Pinnochio's long nose.

Posted by ukobserver

A bit off-topic but l thought you would be interested to read a view on Sarah Palin from a British commentator from Liverpool who doesn't work for Murdoch or The Guardian!! Be warned, it's not very flattering.

Sarah Palin: She ticks every box in the "Neo-Con book" and then some

By Brian Reade 4/09/2008

Taking an interest in British politics may seem as pointless as giving a manic depressive a 10-year subscription to Suicide Monthly, but it could be worse.

Imagine if your mum or gran had swooned at a GI's offer of some nylons in the 40s and you were now watching your country's Presidential election on the TV over a box of Dunkin' Donuts propped on your 56in gut.

Imagine witnessing a people incapable of letting a politician start a sentence without thumping their left nipple and weeping, or end a sentence without shrieking like a boyband groupie who's just stood on a nail.

How could you take seriously big business pumping billions of dollars into the coffers of political puppets schooled to say nothing controversial, just words like "choice" and "change"?

It's bad enough watching Democrats con themselves into believing that if a black First Lady gets to choose the White House drapes the world will be turned on its head.

But the Republicans have truly exposed the American electoral system for the sham it is. Has a more frightening political photofit than Sarah Palin ever been manufactured by spin doctors?

She ticks every box in the Neo-Con book and then some. She could not be more of an evangelical right-winger if she banged her tambourine on a white hood.

She's a gun fanatic who is a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association. An abortion-hater, who has five kids. A God-fearing Christian who backs teaching creationism in schools. A hardnosed careerist who was so driven at school they called her Sarah Barracuda. An unflinching patriot whose soldier son Track (like siblings Trig, Bristol, Willow and Piper, given a dog name in best redneck tradition) may soon be fighting for Uncle Sam in Iraq.

The Miss Congeniality beauty pageant runner-up who married her high school Action Man and turned hockey mom is aimed at the hearts of all-American women. Not to mention the loins of all-American men, due to looking like a secretary strip-a-gram who, once the door's shut, will lose the glasses and straddle you.

The fact that she's done nothing but govern, for five minutes, a state with the same population as Bristol (that's the city, not her daughter) is irrelevant.

Her inexperience like her skeletons have been ignored because, sat next to the grey pensioner John McCain, they look like a Fox News anchor team. The sage and the eyecandy. Reassuring and homely.

And here, in a nutshell, is the pointlessness of the race for the White House. The nation's ruling party has teamed up a couple who had met only once before and who have little in common, apart from being anti-Commie and ProLife. And they are selling them as the best people to run the world for the next four years because they have the same age/gender balance as Trevor McDonald (think Ted Koppel) and Julie Etchingham (think Katie Couric).

Suddenly hearing Gordon Brown and Hazel Blears droning on about 30 per cent five-year loans for first-time buyers all seems quaintly reassuring.

McCain is the sage and she is the eye-candy

Posted by skeptical in reply to ukobserver

UK,

Thanks for posting that.  That is by far, the best summary of this craziness that I have seen yet.

Posted by mary59 in reply to skeptical

Oh the Brits can be a cynical lot. The Republicans will show 'em...just watch the Bushies/McSames roll back the reforms of Runnymede, 'cause they stand for freeeedom.

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to ukobserver

Wonderful insight from the other side of the puddle. Good read during a WAS-NYG commercial break.

Posted by historygeek001 in reply to ukobserver

Brilliant!  Depressing, but brilliant.

Posted by MayberryDrunk

http://mediamatters.org/items/200806290001?f=s_search

 

Interesting, considering it was back in June.

Posted by NiceguyEddie in reply to MayberryDrunk

A gold medal gymnist couldn't flip-flop better than today's Republicans.

Posted by Max Dharma

when she became governor and said, "No more for my state."

That's all you need to know.

Palin > Obama

PS. If you want to “challenge someone” on what they USED to believe, lets challenge Obama on his drug use .. or is it good enough that he no longer feels that way.

Posted by skeptical in reply to Max Dharma

PS to Max, but she kept requesting, taking and spending the earmarks!

Posted by jawill11 in reply to Max Dharma

when she became governor and said, "No more for my state."

That's all you need to know.

Too bad you didn't follow your own advice because that is all you need to know to understand what MMFA stated with evidence.  When McCain said that, he was lying.  MMFA provided evidence of how Palin loved earmarks up until apparently last week, not when she entered the Governor's office, as McCain falsly stated.

Obama = Palin10

Posted by jawill11 in reply to jawill11

My superscript didn't come through.  I tried to counter Dharma's algebra with Obama = Palin to the 10th power.  

Posted by loonz in reply to jawill11

It looks like this droid has been posting stuff like this all day.  Just ignored it and maybe its program will crash.

Posted by walstib in reply to Max Dharma

SHe said no to the bridge but kept the money.

 

Game, set, match.

 

 

Posted by shaggles in reply to Max Dharma

You also need to know that that is a lie.

Posted by Max Dharma

PPS. MMFA needs to wakeup and realize that the reason that these news casters/pundits, et al, do not ‘challenge’ these statements is because they are non-issues.

MMFA *wants* to steer you away from recognizing how well Gov Palin did last night; and the way they choose to do it is through innuendo and false assertions.

g/j MMFA, but keep in mind:

Palin > Obama

Posted by mary59 in reply to Max Dharma

Hey, you earned 10 cents for those two posts. Good work.

Posted by pete592 in reply to mary59

You're an insanely generous employer.

Posted by mary59 in reply to pete592

I don't pay.  McSame has that deal.  Wouldn't be dumb enough myself...

Posted by pete592 in reply to mary59

:-)

Posted by skeptical in reply to Max Dharma

It's always a non-issue to republicans when another republican lies!

Posted by pete592 in reply to Max Dharma

NO, THEY ARE NOT "NON-ISSUES."

Why?  Because Palin made them issues in her first speech AND her second.

She's selling herself as the enemy of earmarks, BUT HER RECORD SAYS COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE. 

Here's some more fun 'word math' for you.  This time an equation containing two constants:

Palin = LIAR 

 

Posted by snoopy in reply to Max Dharma

Awww, wassa matter? Gidget and Geezer turn out to be another one of those b movies? Gidget shows her breasts and then gets slashed two minutes later by the friendly acting Geezer. Yup, b movies may eventually create a following, it's just never anything beyond cult like.

Posted by DAWUSS

Alrighty, the moment we've been waiting for: The POW's acceptance speech!

Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to DAWUSS

got to watch a movie first

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to DAWUSS

McCain had to cue the crowd to chant... LOL

Posted by walstib in reply to DAWUSS

though I am loathe to respond to you...

 

love the green screen!

 

technology is scary.

Posted by neon desert in reply to walstib

When I first clicked it on, I saw the green screen, and my first thought was "they're replaying his old speech".  Then when I realized that I was seeing it live, I thought "What did they learn from that first speech that would make them think this was preferable?"

Then, when the camera panned out showing that the green behind McSame was the grass in front of the White House, I thought "Holy cow, these guys truly are morons.  They never learn."

Doesn't fill me with warm fuzzies that McSame can deal with the intricacies of running the country. 

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to DAWUSS

Some quick observations:

 

Where's the Flag Lapel Pin? (and more so, the outrage behind its absence?)

 

I think McCain ripped off Michelle Obama over the whole "be a government worker, run for office, be a teacher, be a soldier" theme, and there was some things that made me say "yeah, right...", such as his segment of our school system. 

And I caught the "Obama tax increase" line a few times as well, along with the George Bush awkward smiles after statements (the "Did that come out right?" smile)

 

Other than that it wasn't a bad speech at all. I think his strongest point was how he was able to connect to US soldiers fighting a war based on his personal experience. And I also have to give him kudos for being sportsmanlike about Obama and his supporters before comparing himself with Obama (even though there were a couple GOP propaganda points embedded in there). He still didn't do much to win me over, however. I'm still in the "Uncommitted" column.

Posted by neon desert in reply to DAWUSS

I thought the best part was when he was talking about Palin, and said "She has worked with her hands and nose.....and knows..."

Priceless. 

Although, after giving it some thought, we could use a good hunting dog in the white house.

Also really enjoyed the "Mavrick" banner.  Good stagecraft to make sure everyone nose...heh heh...knows that we're definitely not dealing with elites here. 

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to neon desert

I think "Maverick" is taken, but "Mavrick" may still be available for trademark and copyright.  Winking - ;)

Posted by neon desert in reply to DAWUSS

Dang!  The colonel scooped me by 10 minutes.

But I still got the "worked with her hands and nose" exclusive. 

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to neon desert

"worked with her hands and nose"

Damn, I heard that one too! There was just too much comedy to remember. Does it worry you that you notice the same crap as I do?

Posted by neon desert in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Wow!  I was about to ask you the same thing!

Posted by Brabantio in reply to neon desert

I laughed at that one myself.  What a horrible time to take a pause.  Obviously it's not a major deal, but I expect just about everyone was perplexed for a second there, which detracted from the effectiveness of that part of the speech.

Posted by Brabantio in reply to DAWUSS

"I think McCain ripped off Michelle Obama over the whole "be a government worker, run for office, be a teacher, be a soldier" theme, and there was some things that made me say "yeah, right...", such as his segment of our school system."

Actually, he ripped off Michelle Obama when he said he fell in love with his country while a prisoner in someone else's.  So he didn't love his country before then?  If Michelle wasn't patriotic because she was "really" proud of her country for the first time, McCain wasn't patriotic until it was tortured into him.  Brilliant work, guys.  I guess that explains our policies as well.  We torture terrorist suspects, which makes them love their home countries, and we can't let them go because if we do they'll go back and get widespread support as leaders just because they were tortured.  We can't have that.

More seriously, I don't think he'll get a bounce from this speech.  He's trying to grab some of Obama's "change" message, but Obama is hitting the 90% point too hard for McCain to get away with it.  People just aren't going to buy reform from someone who has agreed with so many disastrous policies.  He didn't deliver particularly well, and selling himself on his POW status is already wearing thin.  I might be wrong, but I just don't see how this is going to sway a significant chunk of the electorate.

Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to Brabantio

We torture terrorist suspects, which makes them love their home countries

Torture can also make you believe that 2+2=5.

Posted by walstib

lets just pray Roberta is not the evil beyotch that Barbara was...

Posted by eweston8542983

Above printed without translation.

Roberta who?

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to eweston8542983

I think Roberta is grampy's mommy.

My favorite part of McSame's call to public service was within a few seconds of his urging Americans to teach an illiterate adult to read ( a line he stumbled on trying to follow that newfangled teleprompter), the camera went to a supporter with a sign that read "The Mavrick" (sic)

Good news for Sarah Palin; She is now in second place in the most vapid major political speech in U.S. history Derby.. I was almost wishing for a childish BS-based "zinger" or that annoying voice, just to keep me from going into a coma.

After Grampy's speech, the Nu-Country guy (and I say that because no self-respecting redneck plays a Flying-V) played the theme song "Raising McCain", the boneheaded choice for an anthem that conjures up images of exhumation of a corpse, followed by the sound system playing Heart's "Barracuda".

I think the message was "Ignore the old man in front of the curtain, think about the shrill naughty librarian who talked about the younger version of McCain last night"

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

The article on the first comment page has it nailed down - "he's the sage, she's the eye-candy"

 

I know - pretty soon we'll have Megan Kelly, Michelle Malkin and Sarah Palin all together on FOX News for all of YouTube people to redistribute

Posted by neon desert in reply to DAWUSS

McCain the sage?!?  If you're talking about the aromatic high plains plant that is sometimes used as an herb for food, it would be a little more easy to understand.

But this is a guy who several times during his speech mentioned that he was itchin' for a fight, or would get in a fight for fun.  I'm not sure that I consider that to be such a great trait for a C in C with his finger on the button.  Not a whole lot of cranial exercise went into the addition of that to his speech.  Then again, if your base is war-mongers and people who don't mind sending other people's kids overseas to get shot at, maybe it wasn't such a bad move after all.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to neon desert

The old Republicans did seem to climax (metaphorically, of course) with the chanting of the word "fight". "Stand up" seemed to be a pretty inspirational goal for most of them as well.

I shouldn't laugh. Every year, I have to fight harder to stand up, And when I get off the couch , I make that "oof" noise that I used to laugh at my dad for making.

Posted by neon desert in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Unfortunately, I know what you mean.

With the realization that my athletic limit these days is walking from the cart to the green without resting, I've lowered my aspirations to a more reasonable level.  My next goal is the title of "curmudgeon". 

Posted by sn0wy25914

What we should be talking about are reports like this:

http://cbs2chicago.com/local/chicago.summer.shootings.2.810166.html

I'd say we should get our own house our own base working to solve problems. We vilify, and rightly so, the Repubs for this war... Who's fault, maybe wrong term, but who's "people" are WE responsible for ?

Here we have our team that derides the "war on terror" in Iraq, but yet it is our party that is suppose to stand for the urban areas of America, to help and lift, to support and understand. Seems we have work to do and a Nation that is so divided.

We talk a great game about unity, we say we are willing to work across party lines, Sen Obama has pledged that, however all we do is tear into one another here. I sure could not see myself, Snoopy or the Conl sitting at a table and trying to work a compromise with AA or ProudConserv

 So what do we do ? Force them to come over to us period ?

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to sn0wy25914

Snowy, your act has been done before, by more talented people.
Yeah, Pee-Wee Herman, except he did it in a movie theater.

Posted by cha24ampong3472

Charles Gibson from all indication is a racist and I am not shocked he did not do that. They hate Obama so much yet still they profess to know God. They oppose abortion but called the war in Iraq a mission from God. I am a christian and I say they are wrong. The bible says in Proverbs 6:16-19 that there are six things God hates and one of them is someone who sheds innocent blood. They are shedding innocent blood in Irag and Sarah Palin call it a mission from God. She does well to say abortion is wrong but she is wrong on the war. Let us not forget that Jesus is coming soon and when He comes they have a lot to answer. The bible says in the book of Jeremiah that God would require their blood at their hands. I believe if you cannot win souls for Christ do not kill souls in the name of God.