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Without refuting it, AP, Bloomberg report Palin accusation that Obama "wants to raise" taxes

Summary: In reports on Gov. Sarah Palin's acceptance speech at the RNC, the AP and Bloomberg both reported her accusation that Sen. Barack Obama "wants to raise taxes," without noting that, in fact, Obama has proposed cutting taxes for low- and middle-income families and raising them only on households earning more than $250,000 per year.
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Posted by DAWUSS

Keep it coming.

 

And we still have no clue as what Palin's Plan is going to be, considering that one of the main POE is the fact that's she's one stroke from being POTUS.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to DAWUSS

OK, JC is Jeff Christie, what's POE?

Sorry, I realize you're a busy man, but I'm not "hep" to all of these abbreviations. OMG, GTG, POS!

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

POE = Point of Emphasis

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to DAWUSS

ty.

Posted by see it real in reply to DAWUSS

O.K. Dawuss, since we have yet to hear Palin's plan, can you speculate on wht you think it is?

Posted by philib in reply to see it real

   Hopefully, it will be; lower taxes, increase public education, provide better health care, offer free housing for deserving, rebuild infrastructure to higher technological standards, reduce the chances of unnecassary abortions, promote prayer in public schools, use American oil, fight terrorism wherever, stop genocide world-wide.

Posted by Brabantio in reply to philib

Outside of the nonsense about prayer in public schools (and maybe American oil, depending on how feasible that really is), sounds like a Democratic agenda to me.

Posted by kemmick in reply to DAWUSS

Doofus!!  You are right!!! KEEP IT COMING!!!  I AM the "middle class" and I say bring on the McCain tax cuts they are only bigger for the rich because they currently pay soo much more than the rest of us!!!  If we could for only one day and stop the handouts maybe those people would go get a job and for once in their life learn what hard work and actually "paying taxes" is all about. They would then be a lot less likely to hand over 30% of their income to their fellow slackers!!

Posted by nerzog in reply to kemmick

And those defenseless rich bastards only pay soo much more than the rest of us because they control soooooooooooo much more of the nation's wealth. Sorry, but my heart refuses to bleed for those pasty-faced rich whiners. They were doing just fine before President Numbnuts cut their taxes.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to nerzog

I agree.  When McCain wins the Presidency and my taxes go down, I'm going to buy my wife another set of $280,000 earrings.  That way, she won't have to wear the same ones two days in a row.

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Will it be gift-wrapped in dollar bills? ;)

Posted by Brabantio in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

That's hilarious.  "OK, we're trying to paint Democrats as out-of-touch elitists...Ooh I can wear that $300,000 outfit while we do that!"

Posted by see it real in reply to Brabantio

Oh, we can also buy ourselves 10 new $1 million houses and/or some condominiums, and then conveniently forget all about them, unless our staff reminds us.

Posted by Lorelei in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Maybe you could purchase the used Mrs McCain convention party dress that was only $300,000 brand new.  Imagine the discount.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to Lorelei

Only $250k on Ebay!  Proceeds go towards needy trust-fund heiresses who can't afford their own private jets...

Posted by philib in reply to Lorelei

   Why aren't you whining about the cost of Bush's party dress that cost only $500 less than McCain's? You people are such whiners. I'll bet Pelosi has a couple expensive dresses and some expensive earings. You don't whine about that. I'll bet Mrs Obama has a couple expensive dresses, too.  Besides, I bet when you become independantly wealthy (like Mrs McCain is) you will buy extravigant items too. But, if O'bama wins the election that possibility won't happen, because he supports keeping the poor poor and not giving the middle class a source of escape. He only supports having them controlled and mediated by big government and it's handouts.

Posted by Brabantio in reply to philib

When you're trying to portray Obama as an "elitist" who's out of touch with the average American, wearing a 300,000 dollar outfit comes off as just a little hypocritical.

Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to Brabantio

What I want to know is how can a simple dress cost $300K.  Is it lined with the nose hair of pup seals?  Or, was it designed by Halliburton?

Posted by philib in reply to foghornleghorn

"What I want to know is how can a simple dress cost $300K."

   That's becaue you don't know what is happening in the world. Like a true liberal, you read only what you're told to read and know only what you're told to know. The dress cost $3K, Mrs Bush's dress cost $2.5K, not at all extravagent. Nancy Pelosi has a couple dresses that cost that much hanging in her closet. But, because Mrs McCain is a republican then she suddenly becomes a hypocrit even though SHE isn't the one claiming that O'bama is an elitist. You liberals seem to group everyone into one little box whenever it is most conveniant.

Posted by Brabantio in reply to philib

The outfit cost $300,000, not the dress.  That includes accessories.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to kemmick

That was some great wing-nut satire.  The borderline incoherence is spot-on!!!

Posted by MoonbatYouBet in reply to kemmick

When McCain turns your employer provided (or at least the share that the company kicks in) medical insurance into a taxable benefit tell me how much you're enjoying his "middle class tax cuts."

Posted by kemmick in reply to MoonbatYouBet

Please explain further!

Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to kemmick

Please do your own research. You can't cure your ignorance without doing the work yourself.

Posted by MoonbatYouBet in reply to kemmick

McCain's less than brilliant solution to health insurance issues is to offer a $5000 tax credit for health insurance.  But that is offset by changing employer offered health coverage into a taxable benefit added to one's income.  The claim is that the credit would offset the increase in reported wages however many analysts debate that this would be true and that the effect is highly varied across income levels. 

Posted by nerzog in reply to MoonbatYouBet

My health insurance costs as much as my mortgage. The high cost is bad enough, but we've had a lot of claims, so I can't complain too much; at least I have insurance. What is worrisome is that I would not be able to buy insurance at any price if I lost my job. A lot of people find themselves in that situation, and I've seen nothing from the Republicans to address this problem.

Posted by MoonbatYouBet in reply to nerzog

But the Reps do have a plan for that, it's the same plan they have for everything- tax cuts!  They somehow seem to think that if they offer a tax credit against the cost of a health plan that you will now miraculously have the money to afford the health plan, even if the tax credit has no effect at all on your tax bill because you are already at the lowest rate you can be.

Posted by nerzog in reply to MoonbatYouBet

Just like a $1500 school voucher will miraculously enable an inner city kid to attend a school across town that costs $6000 and has no openings.

Trickle-down-your-back economics... you gotta love it.

Posted by knowlies in reply to kemmick

Yes that's right. Everyone knows that if your poor it's cause your just lazy. And if your rich it's cause you worked hard. That's it. Never realized it was so simple. Every single person in America should (and could if they worked really really hard) be making at least six figures. And if they don't, they just suck.

Posted by nerzog in reply to knowlies

No, silly.... if you're rich, it's because Jesus loves you. If you're poor, there must be some moral failing in your history, or your ancestry...

Posted by knowlies in reply to nerzog

...or maybe Jesus hates the poor.

Posted by NiceguyEddie in reply to kemmick

It's like he's proud of being ignorant!

Posted by MidnightWriter

Palin wasn't a speaker last night.  She was a cover band doing a set of Republican favorites.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to MidnightWriter

John McCain is much better at lying than Palin. 

I also think that McCain's selection of Palin undermines his message of 'More of the Same'

Posted by MidnightWriter in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Oh, if only John could have enjoyed "more of the same" when he was a prisoner of war.

 He was a prisoner of war, you know.  Did you know that?

Posted by RoberttheP in reply to MidnightWriter

Yes he was a POW and withstood more pain then most could put up with. 

Posted by MidnightWriter in reply to RoberttheP

No question about that.

Still doesn't tell me how that qualfies him for President.

Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to MidnightWriter

It's because he has a better story. Qualifications have nothing to do with it.

Posted by MidnightWriter in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts

Ah, a good story.  I see.

In that case, I'm throwing my support to the Stephen King/David Sedaris tickets.  There's a couple of guys who know how to tell a story!

Posted by onionhead in reply to MidnightWriter

I'd vote for this guy

Posted by nerzog in reply to RoberttheP

Whatever Gramps did or didn't do 40 years ago has no bearing on whether or not he has become a pandering liar. War heroes get medals and parades. If they want to be President, they have to earn it the same way everyone else does.

If being a POW entitles a person to our eternal gratitude and deference, no matter what, lets go out and find all former POWs and give them whatever they want. I wonder how many of them are homeless? Are you willing to pay higher taxes to house them? Hell, some of them may have become criminals.... do we pardon them?

Posted by tommy in reply to nerzog

Nerzog,

The point is that it's up to the voters to decide for themselves whether McCain's service is relevant to their voting decision, for some it is, that is their perfect right; for you and others, it is not important.  What the Democrats running Obama's campaign, and Obama himself, have rightly decided, is to leave it alone.  Respect it, do not disrespect it, and do not make it some issue.  If McCain and his supporters want to run on it, so be it.  To argue it's relevance or dismiss, or diss it in some way, will not endear Obama to anyone on the fence.  He is smart enough to know this.

Posted by nerzog in reply to tommy

I agree. In the end, people will vote for whomever for whatever reason. I'm no better.... I came into this election cycle determined to vote for the non-Republican, no matter who it was.

Posted by tommy in reply to nerzog

Considering the screwed up Republican party and the mess Bush has made, your commitment to vote against them is not out of line, in fact it makes much sense.

Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to tommy

That's baloney. Voting for someone because they were a POW, or some other reason that has no relevance to their political stances, is invalid.

Just because some people might do it doesn't make it a valid reason for them to do it.

Posted by philib in reply to BottleBlonde

  And what is YOUR reason, blondie? Do you have a reason to vote for whoever you vote for? Well, in the freedoms given to us by our forefathers, we can choose any dang reason we want to choose when we decide on who to vote for. We certainly don't need YOUR approval when making that decision. Personally, I think your reason is invalid...and I don't even know what your reason is. I just know you're a liberal so you can't possibly have a valid reason.

   For me, I will decide based on who will put in judges who won't create law from the bench. Judges are there to make judgement of law, not create law.

Posted by annes10 in reply to nerzog

I agree. My dad is a WWII navy vet and I totally agree.

That being said, do you realize that McCain the naval aviator only logged 23 hrs of combat time, crashed 3 planes, was bombed in another, and was shot down in his 5th (after that he logged his time as a POW on the ground). The accidental bombing, and the shoot-down, you can not blame on the guy, he was just there when bad things happened. But, his record is that he bagged five of OUR planes.

Sorry, Dad. But FIVE of our own PLANES? What would he do with the White House (after all, there's only ONE!)

Posted by shaggles in reply to RoberttheP

I thought POW stood for Piece of 'W'?

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to MidnightWriter

Well, did you know that Sarah Palin is well versed in foreign policy?  As Governor of AK, she also served as Supreme Commander General of the AK National Guard unit serving in Iraq!  How's that for military service, Barack Hussein Muslim!!

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Not to mention she had to deal with illegal immigrants from Canada and Russia! How many illegal immigrants did Barack Obama have to deal with???

Posted by nerzog in reply to DAWUSS

And Global Warming is our ally in stopping more Mongols from migrating into Alaska... no ice sheets to walk on.

Posted by see it real in reply to MidnightWriter

Other P.O.W.'s in partcular, and most veterans overall, have justifiabl blasted and barbecued Liar McCain for exploiting his P.O.W. situation for his own political profit.  This corporatist conservative Republican news media will respond by attacking Liar McCain's veteran critics for attacking him, as expected.

Liar McCain is becoming known for 3 things, a noun, a verb, and P.O.W.

Posted by NiceguyEddie in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

McSame / Failin '08

(You want to pay less taxes?  Just shut down a factory.  Everyone there will pay a LOT LESS in taxes!)

Posted by see it real in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Yeah, but Liar Palin will ge schooled on being an even better right wing Republican liar than she already is, so she'll catch up to Liar McCain very quickly.

Posted by Great American

By letter the current tax cuts expire won't he be raising taxes for everyone?

Posted by nerzog in reply to Great American

No, he'll be uncutting taxes for the wealthy.

Posted by MoonbatYouBet in reply to Great American

No, he'll be following the intent of the law as passed by the Republican controlled Congress and President Bush at the time.  They wrote the tax cuts in as temporary and they are responsible for them ending.  They are the ones ultimately responsible for any tax increases due to the law they wrote and passed.

Posted by Great American

Good point.  Sorry for the mispeling from my previous post.

Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership in reply to Great American

I wonder how many lies McCain will tell tonight about taxes?...

It's kind of sad and pathetic that a military hero will just pander and disgrace himself.  But that's John McCain.  He's now part of the Rove team. 

McCain ran that one commercial a few weeks ago where he said Obama was going to raise taxes on everyone making more than $41,000.  Just an outright lie. 

This is a man who has completely lost his bearings and it's not likely the media will hold him accountable.

Posted by nerzog in reply to Limit Corp. Ownership

Careful! If you say "Lost his bearings" or anything which can denote confusion, or inattention, or forgetfulness..... that's AGISM!

We must respect the senile old coot.

Posted by deanoakwood

Its just scary because Palin and McCain can stand up there and make as many claims as they want, as false as they are.

Many, many people turned in to hear Palin's big speech and they were treated to lie after lie from Guliani and Palin.  The uninformed vote as much as the people who are always searching for the truth.

But the debates are coming and this time there will be an opponent standing on stage that can actually call them out for lying.  Can't wait for October 2nd to watch Biden to roast Palin!

Posted by MoonbatYouBet in reply to deanoakwood

Sadly, the debates won't mean what you wish they will.  The groundwork has already been laid to present Palin as a perpetual victim of the media and the evil libs so any points Biden scores for being smart and articulate will be lost because he's a "big meanie beating up on the poor girl."  Unless she manages to say something so stupid or insulting that it can't be swept under the rug she has already won the debates.

This is how they play the game and to them it is just a game. 

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to MoonbatYouBet

Sadly, the debates won't mean what you wish they will.(Moonbat)

Moon, I have to agree with you on that, and also for another reason. I got into righty radio sometime after 9/11, just because I'd become fascinated with the neocon cult, and would tune in whenever I was on road trips for work, to hear how the propaganda worked.

After the 2004 debates, I recall turning on Rush Limbaugh and some other shows. I couldn't wait to hear how they excused W's laughable performance, or how they explained that the debates weren't important. I was ready to hear at least a little self-deprecating humor along with the spin, maybe some sheepish admission that maybe they'd backed the wrong guy.

What I heard was stunning-- George W. Bush (and Cheney)had kicked ass in the debates. All of the hosts and all of the callers seemed to be in agreement, and all of them seemed to be living in some universe where facts and logic and history didn't hold any weight at all.

I'll still watch the debates, and I'll still get some laughs, but since that time, I've started to talk to more conservatives I know in my life, and I've been posting and reading at this site and others where rightys dwell. And I'll remember that the far right fringe is completely immune to reality, and I'll just root for the (not quite gone) middle to see what's really happening.

Posted by see it real

The right wing conservative Associated Press, run by right wing Republican Liar Ron Fournier, among others, want Liar McCain-Liar Palin to get elected.  So does the rest of the corporatist conservative Republican Party controlled news media.

Posted by BlagoBoy in reply to see it real

Oh yeah..that Corporatist Consertive Media was definitely on the side of McCain and Palin this week.

Lay off the crack for a while and then get back to us