I mean really, why bother

Brokaw, show up or give up kid, you're embarassing yourself

i saw that ad today also.  i picked up on the "tax increases on working american families" distortion right away.   they can slick their way out of that by defining "working families".  but there is no way that burr's statement about increased "taxes across the board on the american people without exception" is anything but a total lie. 

Everybody knows that working families earn more than 5 mill a year. The rest are just slackers Surely, even the brain dead can see thru this tired line of bull.

Everybody knows that working families earn more than 5 mill a year.

And don't know how many houses they own.....

Well... If he went to an islamic terrorist training school as a child and is a secret muslim who hangs out with terrorists and racist american hating pastors with his wife who hates America most of all and who knows the truth about his fake birth cirtificate... well then no one should be surprised that he is out to get ALL YOUR MONEY, especially if you are a white christian patriot.  Of course he will tax us to death before he gives the keys of the empire to the midwestern branch of the Al Queye ayda located somewhere in Illinois...

Oh and he had horns removed from his forhead in a secrete operation in 1973....

Did I miss anything?

 

A Britney Spears reference

Brokaw = the Peter Principle in action

BTW, just now, Orrin Hatch defended Palin on MSNBC by saying, "we've all had teenagers in trouble."

Yikes--  

Well, I think it's true. All Christians who raise teenagers without telling them about sex or birth control end up with teenagers in trouble.

Maybe Hatch got a teenager in trouble...

BTW, just now, Orrin Hatch defended Palin on MSNBC by saying, "we've all had teenagers in trouble."

In parts of Orrin Hatch's home state of Utah, pregnant 17-year-olds are generally on their second or third pregnancy....

Maybe Brokaw hasn't mastered the internets quite yet.

Also, I'm still waiting for the parade of left-wing commentators opining on the RNC. 

OMFG!!!!

Did a sitting President just use the phrase Angry Left on a televised speech just now?

Dead Presidents are rolling in their graves right now

I guess the irony of why we're angry is lost on him (as usual).

I'll back you up, Edenscape. If I may paraphrase the Chimp in Chief;

" If a few years at the Hanoi Hilton couldn't break John McCain, then the ANGRY LEFT sure can't."

I may have missed it, but were there any references at the DNC of the ANGRY RIGHT trying to "break" Obama?

Un-credible.Now I'm listening to the old guy from Law & Order explaining what a bunch of "rebels" the McC family is.

I didn't hear Fred Thompson's speech but unfortunately caught the tail end of sleezy joe lieberman.  What a yawner, makes Thompson appear almost animated. 

Joe sez he wants to appeal to all those democrats out there who are deranged enough to consider McSame with his new side kick, crazy eyes Palin.  Please, give these cartoon people their own planet somewhere else!!!

I posted this on another forum. They said Lieberman's speech was "raw meat" for the right-wingnuts.

That's where he screwed up. Lieberman is Orthodox, and they don't allow mixing red meat with milquetoast.

This convention is so subdued and boring so far. The highlight was watching stuffy rich people dance to a christian music superstar. That's all they got folks. Thompson put people to sleep and then Lieberman made them roll over and reach for the remote to turn off the television. At least that's what happenned at my house.

 Obama had 40 million watch his speech. What's the guess on the ratings McCains' speech will bring?

Dead Presidents are rolling in their graves right now

Dead presidents have been spinning in their graves since January 20, 2001, when this sorry excuse for a human being took the oath of office the first time.....

Got a GOP wanna-be-governor talking about our current Governor raising the gas tax 9 cents a gallon as if she alone is responsible for what turns out to be a voter approved tax for highway construction. these GOP idiots think the listening population is incapable of logically sorting thru this stuff. Bunch of idiots. What is sad, there are a significant amount of the electorate that just sucks this up as gospel truth and will actually make up facts to bolster their argument. By the way, gov Gregoire is doing a swell job spending that money on actual highway construction, a visible proof for all the traffic congestion the state is witnessing.

QUICK

 

Somebody check Fred Thompson's pulse...I think he just passed on mid speech...oh, wait, no, he's coughing again

and again

wow, does this guy smoke?

Did Thompson ever serve in the military?

What boggles the mind is that the GOP, who has marched thousands of young American military men and women straight into death, touts the death of them as an accomplishment - and "the base" is eating it up. What's wrong with these people?

I fon't think so, but he probably played a Military man in one of his many acting roles. (That counts, doesn't it?)

Yes, but only to one.

Fred Thompson wasn't in the military, but he was in The Hunt for Red October.

Why should I vote Republican?  They endorse Hollywood values ;) (kidding).

Did Thompson ever serve in the military?

He did not, according to his Wikipedia page.

oh, puke. I'm watching ol fred trying to stay awake as he describes songbirds' POW life. Oh, they ain't politicizing it at all. OMG! The offensive line of the green bay packers statement! Now a statement that being a POW doesn't qualify you to be president, but it does give you character. Seeing how much songbird lies about everything must either mean he has no character or he broke like a cheap chinese toy. Matches that cheap piano dirge they play in the background...

THIS F-nut is the GOP headline speaker?

Sheesh, I almost feel bad for him

Looks like someone else isn't getting good press...

The offensive line of the green bay packers statement!

Which John W. McCain changed to the Pittsburgh Steelers last time he was pandering for the Stupid Vote (his base) in Pennsylvania. He forgets that there's this new-fangled thing called a printing press, popularized by his schoolmate Gutenberg, and it allows people to go back and actually read words you've already written about a subject.

Folks, if he'll lie about that, he'll lie about anything. And he does, with every word that comes through his lips.

Bush equates ‘angry Left’ with North Vietnamese torturers.

Tonight in his address via satellite to the Republican National Convention, President Bush blasted Sen. John McCain’s (R-AZ) critics. Invoking McCain’s time as a POW in a North Vietnamese prison, Bush compared these torturers to members of the “angry Left”:

If the Hanoi Hilton could not break John McCain’s resolve to do what is best for his country, you can be sure the angry Left never will.

Except songbird set the guiness book of world records for fastest break under pressure.

In the same speech, bush repeated the lie about songbird turning down early release. Debunked too, songbird never had a say. We already proved the offer was made to Kissinger and it was he who refused. In songbird's book he wrote how he thanked Kissinger for making that decision and saving his dignity. That statement says alot, like if it were up to songbird he woulda said yes...

WTF. Did rinohunter write W's speech?

Now Lieberman. Between bush, sleepy fred and loserman, one thing I notice is when the crowd "goes wild" it's equivelant to mild applause. I saw an audience pan and it's pretty empty too, like being live at a detroit lion's game.

Maybe this is why?

 

You know, the MSM has completely ignored this new data. They are still claiming (CNN) that "nobody knows" how Palin is succeeding.

Let's see: She pulled 22% of the funding for a facility that helps unwed mothers, she says "abstinence only" sex education is effective while she has a pregnant teenaged daughter, she's the subject of a bipartisan ethics investigation. there's a recall petition being circulated in Alaska, she said she was "Miss Congeniality" at a beauty pageant, but the real Miss Congenality says she wasn't, and in her firstpress conference, she lied through her teeth about being against the "bridge to nowhere," saying she sent the money back to Congress. Actually, Alaska accepted the money, and used it for a different project, it was never"sent back to Congress."

For a Republican, I'd say she's amazingly successful.

THIS convention is soooo boring!

I thought it was just me.

The atmosphere was more like that of closing night at the Clark County Fair  while the "cleaning up instructions" were being recited to the vendors.

Hey Pearlene, the only fun I'm getting out of it is, on your advice, watching how many times they pan over the same black faces.

New drinking game?

Every time an "urban american" appears on tv at the RNC, take a drink.

Perfect game for your Mormon friends.

I heard this morning that there are only 36 black delegates at the GOP convention out of about 6,000 total. I'll bet the Fox News cameras know exactly where each one is at every moment, so they can get some out-of-proportion-to-their-actual-numbers face time.

In 2004, the percentage of black GOP convention delegates was 6.9%

Chris Rock said of a Democratic Convention (I don't know if it was last week's or not), "The last time the Republicans had this many black people on stage, they were for sale."

Oops, sorry Snoop, I paraphrased before I saw your quote,

OMG! Loserman just said we don't need bipartisan unity, we need national unity! National unity as in nazi party kind of nationalism! And that drew the loudest sound yet! I can hear them now, deutchland, deutchland, uber alles...

And ANOTHER POW plug...

remember Karl Rove's goal is to have a one party system. His own.

Lieberman is for national unity?

Well, Joe, my friend - get those republicans to start voting with the democrats.  Sheesh, the concept is so simple, and yet it seems to escape him...

Well harumph...lil' joe can't go against his very strong principles, whatever they are.  Him and johnny maverick are pals and the war was a swell idea and all.  So to further his call for unity, he now wants to be called joe mcCain and he'll vote with the neocons 90% of the time or more.

The Republican party looked old, confused, and unenthused -- those are the ones I want running the country with their figure on the trigger. I know the desire to juxtaposition against the Democrat large, exciting, and slick convention was planned in the wake of a hurricane and the Bush White House but to make the active decision to appear as if the delegates were on line at the DMV and less than competent. Brillant -- but it is the GOP and form does eventually evolve to follow function so sometime in the future hopefully they will just forget to breed. But not if the Palins have anything to say about it.

You've got a good point there.  The GOP is all about drawing a contrast between their party and the Democrats.  By the drab, dull, poorly lighted atmosphere, glazed eyes, inattentive attendees, and recycled threadbare talking points, I'd say they've made that contrast shockingly stark.

I think in the end it will come down to a definition of the highest earners.  In looking at his tax plan, which is pretty close to revenue neutral, and his proposed spending plans, I don't see how he can balance the budget without raising taxes on all the top 50% of tax filers.

Oscar, you obviously weren't paying attention to Old Fred's careful analysis of Obama's tax plan.See, he's not going to raise your taxes, just taxes on business, so you won't be affected unless you buy gas or milk.

I think some of the conservative posters here have explained that businesses don't pay taxes because they pass on the cost. Unlike individuals, who absorb all expenses, not figuring taxes into their purchases or pay demands. Huh?

For the non-economics professors in the crowd, Thompson went into the folksy zone-- "Obama's not gonna take it from yer side a the bucket, he's gonna take it from the other side of the bucket." (hearty laughter from the crowd. They like the bucket story)

There once was a crowd from Nantucket, who liked 'ole Fred's tale of a bucket.  He was folksy and all, makes you climb up a wall and we want to tell fred to go _____________et.

Reminds me of a story that happened earlier today.

So me and Dusty was travelling through the desert on our way to Furnace Creek, when Dusty says to me "Daisy" (our burro) "seems a might thirsty", and he commenced ta reachin' fer the canteen hangin' from Daisy's pack.

I stopped him right there, sayin' "Hold on there, pard."

"Half o' that water in that there canteen's for Daisy, an' half's fer me"

Dusty turned to face me, and with a concerned look says.  "I don't reckon I kin be shore that Daisy ain't a-drinking some a' yer half".

"Well," I sez, "then I guess you best just wait 'til I done drink my half first."  Dusty agreed, and we continued west under the broilin' sun.

After walkin' 'bout 3 mile, I reached fer the canteen.  Dusty stopped, "Hold on there, ya sidewinder." he sez.  "How kin I be shore you ain't drinkin' some a' Daisy's half?" he sez.

"Well", I sez, "I reckon that's gonna take some ponderin' on, Dusty".

I put the canteen back on Daisy's pack, and we continued across the desert, We walked about another couple miles, when quicker'n a miner pullin' his foot outta a boot with a scorpion in it, Daisy dropped ta th' ground, plumb dead a thirst.

"This is yer own fault" I sez.  "I reckon if you'd just a let me drink my half first, Daisy woulda been able to drink her half and she wouldn'ta  died."

Dusty thought different.  He sez it were my fault. "You was so worried 'bout whose half o' th' water was a-bein' used that none of it got used at all, an' now we ain't got no way of gettin' our goods ta Furnace Creek."

So I shot him.  Varmint.

Neon, that was the best story!  Now that's what that Republican convention needs. I think Dusty and Daisy is right up their alley.  You could follow palin's speech, but watch out for flying shrapnel.

Yeah, Colonel, it's a lot like the local government saying such and such is ok because the state is paying for it or the state saying it's ok because the feds are paying for it. Governments are a lot like business in that way, they don't pay the costs, they just pass them on to the taxpayer/consumer (or an unknown future generation).

I guess I expected this nonsense from the Republicans, but it makes me want to puke.  Anything to stir up the base and show all the hypocrisy.

Right winger rejoice!!

 

They are showing your convention on BBC Parliament right now. That old bloke from "Baby's Day Out" is on talking about Jonh McCain's time as a POW (McCain doesn't like to talk about it). Doesn't seem to be too many entthusiastic people there!!

The most generous interpretation of Brokaw's reporting in the last two weeks is that he is having "senior moments" when he just loses focus on what is being said to him.

 

The Angry Right broke McCain.  They did not want Lieberman as vp.

McCain did.  McCain was broken.  Country First my *ss.  This was election first.

 

 

Hasn't Obama proposed raising taxes accross the board by letting the current tax cuts expire?