For someone who is being portrayed as the weakest VP candidate in generations, there is certainly a lot of space being devoted to Mrs. Palin on this website and other "progressive" blogs. I would think that the progressives would be happy to see such a "weak" team, rather than stir up controversy that may result in her being replaced with a "stronger" candidate this week.

Oh, I don't know. Let's say she gets dumped. What's that say about McCain? He'll be painted as:

pandering to the right wing and it will stick effortlessly

weak at vetting

a poor judgement of character

someone so desperate to win he tried to pick a candidate to win, not a candidate to lead

Basically, he'd be toast.

He's toast now.  This pick will backfire.  It really already is.  It's insulting to everyone who's actually cares about women's issues.  She a joke.  Bush'41 survived the flap over Quayle mainly due to Reagan's popularity and the relative weakness of Dukakis as a candidate.  McCain has to OVERCOME Bush's UNpopularity and he's facing the strongest, most inspiring Deomcratic opponent since Kennedy.  Butter him now, he's TOAST.

he's stuck with her, oscar, one way or another, even if he replaces her. 

And you're sure the MSM would hustle to cover his mistake?

Oh no, she's like a train wreck. It just gets worse and worse as you look...you know you shouldn't, but you have to.

Oscar,

Personally, I would like to see the strongest tickets possible as an American voter.  At one time not so long ago, I was leaning towards McCain.  If what's-her-name is replaced, I may consider voting for him again.

As American citizens we should ALL want the strongest best candidates on BOTH sides so who ever wins we still have strong leaders.

Too bad this is not the case on the repub side:  They choose to crap on the very idea of what it takes to be president and vice president.  They choose religion over the constitution, they choose cronyism over leadership, they choose a state that is close to Russia, rather than leadership.  They choose one that does not even know what the veep job consists of.  They choose this knowing that this person could well become the leader of this country.

 

IOW, they played to WIN not to lead.  And they have shown themselves to be Republicans before Americans. 

They played to their base, certainly.  They played to win, certainly.  But as far as playing as Americans for good leadership, my opinion would be no.

As a woman, she is, as far as I know, fine.  As the next in command to this country, with all we have learned about her in the past WEEK, she is no commander in chief.

We all know what she stands for.  Is that for all americans?  or just republican americans, or just religious republican americans that beleive in creationism, abstinence, cronyism, etc, etc, etc.  

 

Oh yeah and being close to russia and all, I would call that relationship into question too, she might be a sleeper!  Har.

 

all that needs to be said about wingnut Palin

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-may-have-sh_n_123205.html

Let me add:

"The allegations that Gov. Palin was a member of (the) Alaska Independence Party are false. She's never been a member of the Alaska Independence Party," said McCain spokesman Brian Rogers.

Found that a moment ago on raw story. Wow!

Gee, that's means it's a lie...

As is the Stevens disavowal. Palin was not only close to the guy, she was an actual protege. She was plucked out for attention 6 or 7 years ago, when she was small-fry, and propelled into this state position.

In other words, she's an obvious partisan hack, part of the Alaska Repub machine. She didn't come out of nowhere. 

She has no business speaking in churches claiming her christianity and love of God. She's definitely a false profit.

BTW, speaking of churches, we need to know why she doesn't know anything about the racist preacher who's church she attends ever since she moved to Wasilla. He's made outrageously racist and zionist rants, why isn't she denouncing the guy? He even ate at her table...

Ah...do you even know what a False PROPHET is?  I doubt it since you don't know how to spell it.

Well Grampa McCain HAD been watching her for several years, according to that recent interview...

It looks to me that Ed Kalnins's sermons in that church should be receiving the same amount of scrtiny as Jeremiah Wright's sermons have in past months.

Escapefromeden,

Gee, let's contrast and compare.  We have a woman asking God to protect our soldiers and guide our country's leaders....

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Sounds just awful evile, doesn't it? 

Compare that with comments from Obama's minister, (which he never heard during his 20 years of attendance), of America as ameri-KKK, 9/11 as our 'chickens coming home to roost' or the cry of 'god damn america, not God Bless America'.

Yeah, that's the basic decency and love we need to hear more of to show how we love our country Rev. Wright.

 

Is Rev. Wright running in this election?

No one should ever be elected to any office anywhere when they claim to know the mind of God.

God doesn't choose sides when countries go to war.

after watching that video I cringe to think she could be a heartbeat away from the nuclear football

Palin's got more spine than BO ever will.. experience too!

haha

Brooks is so wrong, so often, on matters so basic that a simple Google check will disprove him, that a reasonable observer can only conclude that he's lying on purpose.  If there was any kind of quality control going on at the NY Times, Brooks would be out of work.

The Google has a definite liberal bias.

They're such "mortal enemies" that Palin was hand-picked to run Stevens' 527 group.

The name of the group?

You're gonna love this...

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wait for it...

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"Ted Stevens Excellence in Public Service."

I kid you not.

But that Stevens/Palin exchange above (at the press conference) was pretty brutal. I didn't know if both would come out alive.

USA ! USA! USA!USA ! USA! USA!USA ! USA! USA!USA ! USA! USA!

Oh, sorry, I still have the Goop convention on, and I got caught up in the mindless jingoistic chanting.It's contagious!

I couldn't sleep so I am up early, getting everything ready because tonite, Princess Sara arrives. Or is she now the Messiah? Some in Alaska may  refer to her as Medusa?

Let's hear her out before they decide to dump her.

And hecj with Lieberman. No particular reason...just the heck him.

I used a bad word and had to change it, SORRY.

I heard an NPR reporter refer to Liebermann as a "one time star of the Democratic Party". When was he ever a "star"? I don't remember much excitement about his VP run.

That's a pretty amazing stretch, even for Brooks, mostly because, as others have said, it's not so hard to disprove what he wrote, or what the McCain campaign has been telling us about Palin.

All this "reformer" stuff is nothing more than a fig leaf so that the few remaining Republican Moderates can recite the talking points without feeling compelled to run home and hang themselves. They've lost their party to the non-thinkers, and you can see that realization in their faces as they tell reporters how excited they are about Whatshername.

After listening to much commentary, I'm not so convinced that this was a bad move. The advantage Obama had after the Dem Convention was enthusiasm. Grampy was never going to excite the GOP base, so Karl Rove picked someone who would. Whatshername is a card carrying Troglodyte. She's a Fundamentalist Nutbag baby factory who likes to shoot small animals. She comes across as the Uberwife, and she's perfect for the gap-toothed Republican base. If she can't win the blue collar Hillary women, she'll get their husbands.....because she looks like the school teacher in a porn movie.

It's BRILLIANT!

that must be why mccain calls her his "running mate and soul mate"

sorry, but on a different thread I just found the "soul mate" thing really really strange.

 

your post enlightens my idea of why mccain likes her so much, lol. 

McCain's VP choice, Sarah Palin, has also been rumored to have tried to ban books from her towns library. Here's a list of books she's alleged to want removed from the library shelves.

It's a little strange that she wants to ban the work of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, but not the work of John McCain.

A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L’Engle
Annie on My Mind by Nancy Garden
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
As I Lay Dying by William Faulkner
Blubber by Judy Blume
Brave New World by Aldous Huxley
Bridge to Terabithia by Katherine Paterson
Canterbury Tales by Chaucer
Carrie by Stephen King
Catch-22 by Joseph Heller
Christine by Stephen King
Confessions by Jean-Jacques Rousseau
Cujo by Stephen King
Curses, Hexes, and Spells by Daniel Cohen
Daddy’s Roommate by Michael Willhoite
Day No Pigs Would Die by Robert Peck
Death of a Salesman by Arthur Miller
Decameron by Boccaccio
East of Eden by John Steinbeck
Fallen Angels by Walter Myers
Fanny Hill (Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure) by John Cleland
Flowers For Algernon by Daniel Keyes
Forever by Judy Blume
Grendel by John Champlin Gardner
Halloween ABC by Eve Merriam
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Prizoner of Azkaban by J.K. Rowling
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire by J.K. Rowling
Have to Go by Robert Munsch
Heather Has Two Mommies by Leslea Newman
How to Eat Fried Worms by Thomas Rockwell
Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou
Impressions edited by Jack Booth
In the Night Kitchen by Maurice Sendak
It’s Okay if You Don’t Love Me by Norma Klein
James and the Giant Peach by Roald Dahl
Lady Chatterley’s Lover by D.H. Lawrence
Leaves of Grass by Walt Whitman
Little Red Riding Hood by Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm
Lord of the Flies by William Golding
Love is One of the Choices by Norma Klein
Lysistrata by Aristophanes
More Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
My Brother Sam Is Dead by James Lincoln Collier and Christopher Collier
My House by Nikki Giovanni
My Friend Flicka by Mary O’Hara
Night Chills by Dean Koontz
Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck
On My Honor by Marion Dane Bauer
One Day in The Life of Ivan Denisovich by Alexander Solzhenitsyn
One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest by Ken Kesey
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Marquez
Ordinary People by Judith Guest
Our Bodies, Ourselves by Boston Women’s Health Collective
Prince of Tides by Pat Conroy
Revolting Rhymes by Roald Dahl
Scary Stories 3: More Tales to Chill Your Bones by Alvin Schwartz
Scary Stories in the Dark by Alvin Schwartz
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Separate Peace by John Knowles
Silas Marner by George Eliot
Slaughterhouse-Five by Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.
Tarzan of the Apes by Edgar Rice Burroughs
The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn by Mark Twain
The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain
The Bastard by John Jakes
The Catcher in the Rye by J.D. Salinger
The Chocolate War by Robert Cormier
The Color Purple by Alice Walker
The Devil’s Alternative by Frederick Forsyth
The Figure in the Shadows by John Bellairs
The Grapes of Wrath by John Steinbeck
The Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Paterson
The Handmaid’s Tale by Margaret Atwood
The Headless Cupid by Zilpha Snyder
The Learning Tree by Gordon Parks
The Living Bible by William C. Bower
The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare
The New Teenage Body Book by Kathy McCoy and Charles Wibbelsman
The Pigman by Paul Zindel
The Seduction of Peter S. by Lawrence Sanders
The Shining by Stephen King
The Witches by Roald Dahl
The Witches of Worm by Zilpha Snyder
Then Again, Maybe I Won’t by Judy Blume
To Kill A Mockingbird by Harper Lee
Twelfth Night by William Shakespeare
Webster’s Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary by the Merriam-Webster Editorial Staff
Witches, Pumpkins, and Grinning Ghosts: The Story of the Halloween Symbols by Edna Barth

There you go. I have a question for Whatshername: In matters of law, which takes precedence.... the Bible or the Constitution? I'd love to hear her answer.

This column sums it up pretty well for me.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/gale-walden/why-sarah-palin-scares-me_b_122733.html

The same idiots who voted for President Numbnuts.... twice.... will run slipping and sliding in their own drool for a chance to put the Troglodyte Princess in the White House.

Assuming that she even read the list, it's pretty scary. Not only that the usual "dangerous" books like Huckleberry Finn and Catch-22 are there.... they always are. The really scary one is "The Living Bible". Whatshername must be one of those idiots who think that Jeeeeezzzzzuuuuussssss spoke King James English.

The Catcher in the Rye is one of my personal favorites, and James and the Giant Peach was my favorite as a kid.  What's her problem with that one, that two nasty old women get run over with an enormous piece of fruit?  Does that evoke some bad memory or something?

Some of these I at least somewhat understand.  But My Friend Flicka?  That list is almost hard to believe, even for a radical like Palin.

I personally have read a great deal of those books (Catch 22 and Huck Finn being my absolute favorites).  I know that reading those books expanded my mind and helped make me a liberal.  Perhaps Palin thinks if she can stop people from reading these great books, she can prevent that dastardly scourge of liberalism from ever breaking out in Wasilla!

Proof, or at least a link, please.

No proof. I used the words alleged and rumored.

Here is a link to the Time article that mentions her inquiring about banning books and her attempt to have the librarian removed from her job.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1837918,00.html

Then where did you get the list?

I did a Google and a Yahoo search.

I searched too. The best I could do was this, from a librarian website. The guy who posted it there gave no link, however.

This looks very much like the kind of thing that was done to Obama over and over again.

http://www.librarian.net/stax/2366/sarah-palin-vp-nominee/

Doug Reese

I only saw that list on a librarian website discussion area.  One person put it out there and several contributors tried to find out where he got his list.  He hasn't responded.

From the articles I read, it doesn't look as though they ever got into a discussion of specific books.  The librarian in Wasilla never let it get that far.  It seems to be fairly clear, though, that there was an attempt to fire her that was withdrawn in the face of public support.

If someone in power would feel it his or her duty to "protect" people from what they might read I would find that repugnant and antithetical to everything we, as a free nation, stand for.  Such people seek to implement their own agenda and simply cut off any access to critical thinking and intellectual freedom.  

Let us not forget that bookburing has been the hallmark of repressive and fascist regimes since books were invented.  If you can't read about it you won't be able to garner any new ideas will you? 

open.salon 

It's all about those "new ideas".

This subject should be the deal breaker for every American. The Republicans are using their wedge issues of abortion, guns and their evangelical religious beliefs to energize their base and divide the country.

Democrats need a wedge issue and this book banning should be it. Let's see who is for and who is against the free and open exchange of knowledge.

I agree, but I fear that we might not like the answer.

For a real WTF? experience, check this out, from Face The Nation:

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"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years, he's been able but undistinguished," Rove said. "I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done. He was mayor of the 105th largest city in America."

Rove continued: "So if he were to pick Governor Kaine, it would be an intensely political choice where he said, `You know what? I'm really not, first and foremost, concerned with, is this person capable of being president of the United States? What I'm concerned about is, can he bring me the electoral votes of the state of Virginia, the 13 electoral votes in Virginia?'"

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This man has balls so big he needs a wheelbarrow to carry them around.

If the Democrats don't make a commercial out of this, they're idiots.

Regarding the quote above, I'd bet that Karl had already settled on Whatshername before he said this. This guy scares me.

Ya might not like this either..

It turns out she[palin] had a somewhat different approach. If a small-town mayor ever ruled with an iron fist — it was Palin. Eleven days after taking office in 1996, she mailed letters to each of the city’s top managers requesting that they resign as a test of loyalty.........

Yes, I've heard about that. It would seem that this "Hockey Mom" is also a ruthless politician. That won't matter to the Troglodytes. She invokes the name of Jesus with ease, so that's all they care about. I think they knew, in the deep recesses of their reptilian brain stems, that Puddinhead George just paid lipservice to his "faith". Whatshername is the real deal.... she attends a church where people speak in tongues.

The Republican party has jumped the shark.... or they're on the verge of obliterating the Constitution. We'll see which....

Methinks you got that wrong, they ARE the shark, and they are eating the constitution.  Its a feeding frenzy.

Didn't Bill Clinton as ALL of the attorneys in the Justice department to resign when he took office?  Nothing to do with any investigations in his background of course!

Didn't Obama challenge his mentor from the Illinois legislature by taking her to court over signatures petitioning her placement back on the ballot?

Gee, sounds like politics is a tough business, even at the mayoral level.  We just can't have tough, formidable women running around trying to compete in that arena though.

I'm afraid it's going to take more than lies from David Brooks to save Sarah Palin. Part articles from the Alaska press are surfacing that makes her look about as "un-Christian" as you can get. Her own words are going to kill the McCain/Palin ticket.

WHY isn't the MSM discussing her "un-Christian" behavior as shown in the news article below???? All we hear are her family values, and how she has taken on other Rebulicans as a reformer. When they do have to address this, I am sure the right wing "spin" will end up here.

This article from the Ankorage Daily News (adn.com) shows a lot about Palin's REAL Christian values............

Palin's responses on radio talk show very unbecoming

DAN FAGAN
COMMENT

Published: January 27th, 2008 01:12 AM
Last Modified: January 27th, 2008 01:38 AM

The governor's appearance on KWHL's "The Bob and Mark Show" last week is plain and simple one of the most unprofessional, childish and inexcusable performances I've ever seen from a politician.

Anchorage DJ Bob Lester unleashed a vicious, mean-spirited, poisonous attack on Senate President Lyda Green last week while our governor was live on the air with him.

When we played the tape on my show the day after it happened, we received 130 calls. Even some Palinbots were disgusted.

The Daily News posted the recording on its Web site and it fired up bloggers.

The Fairbanks Daily News-Miner editorial writers demanded the governor apologize. The Juneau and Ketchikan papers also ran the editorial.

The Daily News opinion page addressed the governor's gaffe. They wrote "She came off looking immature herself, almost high-schoolish. It was conduct unbecoming a governor."

It was conduct unbecoming a human being, never mind a governor.

 The governor's office eventually tried to spin the public relations disaster, releasing a statement reading, "Governor Palin was caught off guard by Bob Lester's reference to Senate President Lyda Green."

I don't buy it. Early on in the conversation before Palin started to crack up, Lester referred to Sen. Green as a jealous woman and a cancer. Palin, who knows full well Lyda Green is a cancer survivor, didn't do what any decent person would do, say, "Bob, that's going too far."

But as the conversation moved on, Lester intensified his attack on Green.

Lester questioned Green's motherhood, asking Palin if the senator cares about her own kids. Palin laughs.

Then Lester clearly sets the stage for what he is about to say by warning his large audience and Palin. He says, "Governor you can't say this but I will, Lyda Green is a cancer and a b----." Palin laughs for the second time.

 What were teenage boys thinking when they heard the governor laugh at someone being called a b----? How about the teenage girls who look up to Palin. What did they think when they heard her laugh?

But there is more. Lester then describes Green's chair as big and cushy. A clear reference to the senator's weight. Palin laughs a third time. She's just having a grand old time.

Palin was clearly enjoying every second of Lester's vicious attack on her political rival.

But it gets worse.

Lester asks Palin point blank: "Do you have any idea of what you did, to make Lyda Green dislike you, hate you?" How does Palin respond? Does she do the right thing? What you would expect from a mature leader, a governor and say, "Bob, Lyda doesn't hate me."

No, she responds like a 13-year-old and says, "Um, you know once and a while I try to figure that out but I can't figure that out."

The Palin camp says the governor did call Green and apologize. That was the right thing to do. But the governor's statement shows the apology a half-hearted one.

The statement in part reads: "The Governor called Senator Green to explain that she does not condone name-calling in any way and apologized if there was a perception that the comment was attributed to the Governor."

But there's strong evidence Palin did condone Lester's name-calling. At the end of Lester making fun of Green as a mother, calling her a cancer, twice, and saying she has to go; after calling the senator a b----, making fun of her weight, and accusing Green of being jealous and hateful; after all of that, Lester ends the conversation offering to visit Palin.

How does Palin respond? "I'd be honored to have you."

The statement released by the governor's office also called Palin's action bad judgment.

But bad judgment is when you stay up late the night before a big test, order steak at a Chinese restaurant or wear blue jeans to a black tie affair.

What the governor did was wrong.

Not only did she sit by and watch a decent public servant get thrashed in front of tens of thousands of people, she actually enjoyed it.

This is our governor, for goodness sake.

Our leader. I wonder.

 

Yep, VP, Commander in Chief material in the republicans eyes.

Sounds like the perfect running mate for McCain.  She laughs when the DJ calls the president of the Alaska senate a bitch and when someone asks McCain "How do we beat the bitch?" (referring to Hillary Clinton) he responds "Good question."  I guess they really are soul mates.

Graydogs--

Why isn't the MSM talking more about Palin's "Christian" values and everything else?  They're the MSM.  Don't look to them for much actual reporting.

It was a rhetorical question...I knew the answer. ;-)

I kinda thought you did...I just get intensely frustrated with the incomplete and inaccurate coverage.  Too many "news" organizations are not actually news organizations.

more....

According to the Mudflats blog in Alaska,

This is from Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor of Wasilla Assembly of God. Palin attended here for most of her adult life, until her new affiliation with a similar church in the state's capitol, Juneau:

What you see in a terrorist — that's called the invisible enemy. There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq, basically, is a manifestation of what's going on in this unseen world called the spirit world. … We need to think like Jesus thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war is contending for your faith. … Jesus called us to die. You're worried about getting hurt? He's called us to die. Listen, you know we can't even follow him unless you are willing to give up your life. … I believe that Jesus himself operated from that position of war mode. Everyone say "war mode." Now you say, wait a minute Ed, he's like the good shepherd, he's loving all the time and he's kind all the time. Oh yes he is — but I also believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was in a war.

 

I thought that to be the type of Christian that this guy is, you got to accept Jesus?

Every day I see more evidence that the religious right has rejected Jesus and have created a new one in their own image.

Yes, I would have to agree with that, they no longer follow what the bible and their Jesus had to say to them.

 Goes in one ear, runs around looking for brain, can't find it, sits there while it gets more and more distorted by the abnormal formations in their skulls that once functioned as a brain.

Palin has made a mortal enemy of the truth.  But then as Stephen Colbert pointed out the truth has a known liberal bias.

Hillary and Obama are mortal enemies, yet HRC supports Obama now, at least they have an agreement.

McCain and Bush are mortal enemies, yet Bush now has come out in support of McCain.

Palin and Stevens may be mortal enemies but politics for all its evils forces some people to work together. 

 

 

Palin's got more spine than BO ever will.. experience too!

haha