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Mitchell falsely claimed McCain has not set a "threshold" for his VP to be "ready to step in on a moment's notice"
Summary: On MSNBC, Andrea Mitchell falsely asserted that Sen. John McCain had not set a "threshold" that his vice presidential pick would be someone "ready to step in on a moment's notice." In fact, McCain has said that the "overwhelming priority" for his selection "is a person who shares my principles, my values, my priorities ... and could be -- immediately take my place."
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Posted by anotheramerican
Duh! Palin shares McCain's principles.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:19:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to anotheramerican
After he changed his mind about 6 months ago.
And she's not ready, by McCain's assesment of experience, to take over for him at a moment's notice.
Don't give us this she was mayor crap either. Makes McCain look ever more the hypocrite if you ask me.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:21:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to magnolialover
The great thing about this choice is that it guts the repub. "experience" charge. They can't bring it up any longer.
It also allows Obama to question McCains "judgement" even more.
But, the cable networks today have been giving Palin a free pass more or less, with few opportunities being had for Dems to critique the choice. Instead, we have journalists telling us what Dems might say.
A really insane choice. McCain obviously does not have the country's best interests at heart, and thinks Hillary's appeal was a 'gal' issue.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:29:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to carlileb5935
But, you will have republicans saying, like AA has said on here already, that Palin DOES have more experience than Obama, because she's been a mayor (of a one horse town), and that she's been governor (in a State with 670,000 people), so she has EXECUTIVE experience. Apparently, she's a good republican, because almost as soon as she came into the governorship, she has and is being investigated for possible ethics violations. So, indeed, she does share McCain's views on that (Keating 5 anyone??).
Watch, I would not be surprised that the claim of executive experience didn't come from one of our right wing talking heads this afternoon after McCain announced his choice.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:32:57 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to magnolialover
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Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to magnolialover
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Posted by wookie in reply to nerzog
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Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to wookie
Sean Hannity was gushing about her "incredible experience"
He also described Obama's speech as "dull". "lifeless" and "bitter".
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:26:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by bkboase3653 in reply to IRONY 101
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Posted by see it real in reply to IRONY 101
Add to that, Palin is also a homophobe, and Palin is also a racist. She hates gays, and she hats blacks.
Meaning that Palin wans to make gays sixth class citizens before seeking their total extermination from the U.S. society, and Palin also favors repealing all the civil rights laws, and Palin also favors the reinstatement or rebuilding of racial segregation.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 10:40:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by unitarianpatriot in reply to IRONY 101
Posted Sunday August 31, 2008 2:05:33 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to magnolialover
All we're seeing right now on TV is right wingers. Few Dems have been offered the chance to critique this choice so far. If word is allowed to get out, most people will see this as being a really disastrous, cynical, stupid choice.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:39:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to carlileb5935
Carl,
She's also a celeb:
http://dwb.adn.com/news/alaska/story/9518196p-9428795c.html
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:40:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to friedbergboy1422
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Posted by tommy in reply to anotheramerican
AA, I wonder what Karl Rove will have to say about Palin after he said this on Face the Nation earlier this month;
"With all due respect again to Governor Kaine, he's been a governor for three years. He's been able but undistinguished. I don't think people could really name a big, important thing that he's done ... [Kaine] was mayor of the 105th largest city in America. And again, with all due respect to Richmond, Virginia, it's smaller than Chula Vista, California; Aurora, Colorado; Mesa, or Gilbert, Arizona; North Las Vegas, or Henderson, Nevada. It's not a big town."
I am sure O'Reilly or Hannity will ask him..... :)
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 5:17:12 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by HughG in reply to anotheramerican
That ain't the point, Double-A.
Reasonable people can disagree about Palin's credentials or lack thereof. The point, duh, is that Andrea Mitchell was pretending that Palin's resume weren't very relevant, because McCain hadn't set a high standard for his VP pick.
Mitchell was wrong. I won't accuse her of deliberately carrying McCain's water here, but it's clear that she hadn't done her homework. It was misinformation which served the conservative purpose.
That's why it was posted here, duh.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 5:37:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to HughG
Hughg, I agree with 96% of your post, except in one area.
Republican Hate Hag Lia Andrea Mitchell IS carrying Liar McCain's water, and one reason for that is that Mitchel is herself a right wing Republican, and Mitchell wants Liar McCain to get elected.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 11:08:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts
Fox News says Palin has foreign policy experience because (and I couldn't make this up) "Alaska is next-door to Russia."
Cross my heart.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:23:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by failedbelle in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:25:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by failedbelle in reply to magnolialover
Many of the Hillary Democrats were already considering McCain. The Dem's have done it again. They are the ones that should have made such a bold move such as maybe..... putting Hillary on the ticket.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 1:27:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by failedbelle in reply to magnolialover
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Posted by magnolialover in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by failedbelle in reply to magnolialover
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Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to failedbelle
I guess, then, we know why you have 'failed' in your handle.
FAIL
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:07:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by failedbelle in reply to Kyle_Broflovski
Ooh, ouch, that hurt. You really got me with that one. Whew!!
Why don't you put your anger where it should be, with Obama. This is the Dem's election to lose and we might have done it again.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:18:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by commonsenseliberal in reply to failedbelle
At least Obama knows where his weakness lies, and that's with foreign policy. He put someone on the ticket with immense foreign policy experience. Foreign policy is a biggie this time around.
By asking Biden to be VP, Obama has shored up his weaknesses. Hillary, as great as she is (screw you, I like her), would not have been the best pick. Those of you stating that Obama should have asked her to be VP to get the female vote is just the same sexism in McCain asking Palin to be VP. She has very, very little experience. She seems like a nice enough woman, but we don't need nice enough in the White House, a heart beat from the presidency. We need strong leadership. McCain/Palin offer none of that. Obama and Biden offer that - and more.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:35:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to failedbelle
No, the ignorance is on YOUR part. Liar McCain andte Republicans are insulting all women in America by making them think that if he puts a woman on the ticket who is just as or MORE against women's issues than he is (Palin opposes equal pay laws, Palin opposes a woman's right to hoose), and people like you confirm his ignorance when you decide to place your spiteful sour grapes and/or possible racism ahead of not just your own self-interest, but that Palin is 1000% antithetical to, meaning hat she is 1000% OPPOSED to, each and every position on the issues that Hillary has, and that you claim to have. I should let you know that Randi Rhodes, Stephanie Miller, among other progressive women, are already coming out 100% AGAINST Palin, as has Debbie-Wasserman Schultz, and Schultz herself said that McCain insulted her and many other women by thinking that women will vote for him simply because his running mate has the same body parts that she and other women have. Schultz's words, not mine, so take your compalints up with her.
If Liar McCain had chosen an anti-civil rights/pro-segregationist black conservative (male or female) as his running mate to pander to blacks, it would be just as insulting to think that African-Americans would support an anti-civil rights/pro-segregation black conservative Repblican simply because that segregationist conservative is also African-American, and that African-Americans would then all vote for Liar McCain just because he puts a black on the ticket, even though that black man or black woman has positions in opposition to most blacks. If you're asking, in my opinion, Sarah Palin is a right wing racist, Sarah Palin favors the repeal of both the 1964 Civil Rights Act an the 1965 Voting Rights Act, and Sarah Palin favors reinstating or rebuilding Plessy vs. Fergusen.
Same is true with Palin. McCain is insulting all women by selecting an anti-woman's issues right wing female hate hag conservative as his running mate, and beliving that women will disregard the fact that Palin OPPOSES each and every women's rights issue. If you can't see that fact, you and the rest of the PUMA's are even MORE unqualified to vote for the candidates for the office of president and/or all other elective offices than hate hag Palin is to be vice-president.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 10:54:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by Handsome Pete in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by failedbelle in reply to Handsome Pete
My opinion, like anyone's, is based on my life experiences, my interaction with others, my intelligence, my research etc. On what do you base your opinions?
Just because you don't like my opinion doesn't mean I have to justify it.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:04:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Handsome Pete in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by failedbelle in reply to RABBITLUVR
Perhaps the only disturbing news for Obama in the survey is that most Clinton voters (56%) say they are not likely to vote for the Illinois Senator in the general election against John McCain. A month ago, 45% of Clinton voters said they were not likely to vote for Obama against McCain.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_c ontent/politics/election_20082/2008_pres idential_election/north_carolina/north_c arolina_democratic_primary
from
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/5/105810/9153
It's only going to take a few states like this to turn the election in McCain's favor. I'm not going to do any more research for you. How about you just google "Hillary supporters for McCain.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:14:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to failedbelle
You're laughable. You link a poll from April???
How about finding something more recent... like a poll taken AFTER the DNC... AFTER Hillary cast her lot with Obama? Can you do that?
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:22:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by failedbelle in reply to RABBITLUVR
I might be laughable but who's laughing now? I think it the old dude.
Rabit do you even read or know how to use a computer. Just do a little research if you want to dispute my opinion. I don't have certify my opinion for you.
Sorry your guy was so stupid. It hurts doesn't it.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:50:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to failedbelle
You MUST be a Righty plant. Sorry, you don't fool me or anyone else here. Go back to listening to Rush or Sean or whoever or go find some toes to suck on, k?
You link a five-month old poll that has ZERO relevance to what is going on NOW as 'evidence' and you try to call yours truly out? Whatever... buh-bye. :)
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:55:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by failedbelle in reply to RABBITLUVR
Since I know where your anger is really coming from, I can look past your comments.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:01:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to failedbelle
No anger from this lib. I'm all smiles today because your candidate and his idiot VP pick are going down in flames come November.
Have a nice day. :)
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:10:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by pointofview in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
Col
Congrats. You made an entire post with mocking the toture McCain went through as a POW. I am impressed. You have been so low class lately, I did not think you could do it.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 5:46:24 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by wesley in reply to failedbelle
-- My opinion, like anyone's, is based on my life experiences... --failedbelle
Belle...it's a tough crowd around here...they'll even resort to eating their own if they're perceived to stray one tiny step from the liberal lockstep mantra.
Since you're a Hillary supporter...I'd guess we don't agree on a lot of the issues...que sera sera...you're entitled to your own opinion. That's one of the reasons why this is a "comments" section...not a chat room.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:34:13 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by anotheramerican in reply to RABBITLUVR
Rabbit,
Your argument is that others are intolerant so it is okay for you to also be intolerant. Uh.. okay.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:22:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:28:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by anotheramerican in reply to RABBITLUVR
So lib opinions include intolerance?
(It might just be easier to apologize rather than defend being intolerant.)
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:45:31 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
Apologize for what? I didn't come on here and link a five month old poll and use that as evidence for a ridiculous argument and then proceed to call others here 'angry' when she was challenged.
Sorry, AA, won't happen. Failed-Belle is a troll and she was called out. Tough you-know-what.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:48:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to anotheramerican
Alright you guys, stop it.
Intolerance will NOT BE TOLERATED around here!
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:52:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to failedbelle
failedbelle
The party of tolerance offers none of it here. You rasied some great points, but they will never ever admit it. I heard many women today who were very excited about McCain's pick. Will it change anything, i dont know. But your points were interesting and worth discussing. What you will not find here from most of the radicals is any tolerance.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:51:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by HughG in reply to pointofview
PoV,
The "intolerance" you cite is mostly for Belle's posting of opinions without much in the way of facts to back them up. Finally, she posted a link to a poll, which is a step in the right direction, but it's an old poll--and therefore of little value. And then she told the liberal who was challenging her to do his own research. That's the last refuge of the lazy internet debater.
I gave a quick look for a poll of Hillary supporters, but couldn't find one. All I found was a recent USA Today poll, which was interpreted by a third party as saying that 50% of Hillary supporters weren't yet sold on Obama. But that's so loose that it's tough to interpret as saying that them's PUMAs ripe for the picking by McCain. More to the point, it was pre-DNC. So Hillary's stirring speech and actions weren't considered.
But...what the WTF. Ain't no poll of no use anyhoo, right now. Only after Sept. 5--after both conventions--will polls have very much meaning.
It's gonna be one fun rollercoaster until then...and maybe afterwards!
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 7:33:53 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to failedbelle
Failed,
I am just curious as to what positions you think Hillary and McCain/Palin share that would convince her supporters to jump ship.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:53:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to friedbergboy1422
Fried
I think you are missing the point. It is not how many positions they share, it may well be how many women feel so slighted, and are so angry, that will vote to finally see a woman as VP.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:56:57 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to pointofview
That's the HOPE of the McCain campaign. Yeah, it's all about winning at any cost. And as usual, nothing about the issues.
Cannot get any more cynical than that.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:06:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by commonsenseliberal in reply to RABBITLUVR
Of course the Repubs have to frame this election around anger and fear. They have nothing to offer except the same crap we've had to go through for the last eight years.
Boo hoo for the righties. If you actually had some ideas, you might have had a chance...
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:47:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to pointofview
POV,
"It is not how many positions they share, it may well be how many women feel so slighted, and are so angry, that will vote to finally see a woman as VP."
Do you really think that there are a lot of Hillary supports who will abandon the principles they stand for just to see a woman become vice president? If so, aren't you selling them short?
I can't think of one policy view that Hillary and McCain share. Frankly, I think its insulting to think that women will automatically follow a woman because they are both women, don't you?
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 5:18:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to friedbergboy1422
Fried.
I think that it is easy to feel that way as a white male, having always had a president and a vice president who were the same. Dont you honestly believe that a percentage.....I dont know how big.....but a percentage of African Americans who registered to vote for this election did so only becasue BO is and African American? Will that make him win....I dont know. I know there will be women on the fence who will go to McCain because ...and only because he picked a woman.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 5:52:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to pointofview
POV,
I don't doubt that a few might see it that way and vote McCain (like maybe 1-2%), but I think your African-American example is a little different. Since 1964, Dems have done very well with African-American voters. Now maybe Obama inspired some to register and vote, but the numbers are still pretty consistent as to a voting pattern for their demographic based on the perception of the Democratic Party by African Americans.
Women who supported Hillary, in my view, go against everything Hillary has ever fought for by voting for McCain.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 6:22:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to pointofview
Having a right wing hate hag woman like Sarah Palin who is just as against women's issues than Liar McCain is, or MORE against women's issues than Liar McCain and other right wing male Republicans are, is NOT progress, it's regression.
It's no different than having an anti-civil rights/pro-segregation right wing black consevrative on the Supreme Court who is just as or MORE pro-segregation than white conservative are.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 11:02:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to pointofview
POV,
By the logic I think I am sensing from you, would Condi Rice have been the best choice for McCain? After all, she is an African-American and a woman. Would she have negated every advantage the Dems had by that logic?
Posted Saturday August 30, 2008 12:44:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mescal in reply to failedbelle
"The only thing that bothers me about this is the intolerance from the supposed party of tolerance." - Faildbelle
You realize that your reliance on this sort of wingnut phrasing is tantamount to a confession that you're a concern troll and a Republican plant, don't you?
Better luck with your next screen name.
Posted Saturday August 30, 2008 1:50:47 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Preston_P in reply to failedbelle
Oh please, no matter what, Obama would've been criticized. Had he picked Hillary Clinton as his VP, folks would criticized him that having her along would revitalize the Republican base, causing the Democrats to lose the ticket. Some would've argued that America couldn't swallow an African-American president AND a female vice president -- that's TOO MUCH change! Many would accuse him for being insecure so picking Hillary was a sure bet for him to win the White House, with the Clinton Machine backing him.
I don't think this was a smart move by McCain. It's a big gamble. I just don't think it will sway a lot of Clinton supporters to his camp. Had Hillary Clinton won the nomination and decided not to put Obama as her VP, and McCain added Condi Rice to his ticket, I can assure you that blacks would not be persauded to vote for Republican in large numbers.
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Posted by anotheramerican in reply to
Rabbit,
Unwittingly, you just argued against your candidate.
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Posted by anotheramerican in reply to RABBITLUVR
You misunderstood.
Trophy POTUS with almost zero experience simply do not cut the mustard.Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:35:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by anotheramerican in reply to anotheramerican
A Trophy POTUS with almost zero experience simply do not cut the mustard.
(sorry for the minuscule font. I cut and pasted the sentence.)
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 2:42:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
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Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
Let's just start out with these...
Obama - Graduate of Harvard Law School, President of Harvard Law Review, Community Organizer in Chicago, Illinois State Senator, United States Senator, Currently being smeared for debunked charges relating to a house deal and associations with William Ayers - when Obama was EIGHT years old.
Palin - Graduated from UID with BA in Journalism, Mayor of 8,000 population Wasilla, Alaska, Governor of Alaska - 2 years, Appeared in Vogue Magazine, Placed 2nd in Miss Alaska beauty pageant in 1984, Currently involved in scandal involving the sacking of PSC Walt Monegan, does not seem to know what the function of the VP's office is.
Now you tell me which resume is more impressive...
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:08:34 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by anotheramerican in reply to RABBITLUVR
Basically you are saying Obama went to Harvard and is a Senator.
Pretty thin. What has he accomplished in any of his positions that is noteworthy?
Palin went to Idaho St., was a mayor, and now is a Governor. Unless one feels one should be President based on the college on attended, I think Palin has Obama beat in the accomplishment area.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:20:45 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
Oh okay, so you're saying that Idaho State trumps Harvard Law School, being a Mayor trumps being a State Senator, and being a Governor trumps being a United States Senator. Yep, got it.
You're insane. Just like your party.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:32:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to RABBITLUVR
Rabbit
I love how you twist it. Anythig about Obama is a smear and an attack. Against Palin you believe it to be fact. You are such a hack, it is un real
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:58:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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Posted by anotheramerican in reply to foghornleghorn
You have nothing to offer to show Obama's competence either legislatively or his private life after law school.
McCain has years of successfully passed legislation to show his.
I can't believe you set yourself up to be shot down so easily. Oh wait. Yes I can. :-)
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:49:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
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Posted by anotheramerican in reply to RABBITLUVR
Rabbit,
Again you are mistaken. Follow the thread. This particular discussion started off when someone above argued that Obama was competent and McCain was a bumbling old fool.
Don't worry. It happens to the best of us. :-)
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:04:20 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to anotheramerican
Courtesy of Rabbit:
Obama - Graduate of Harvard Law School, President of Harvard Law Review, Community Organizer in Chicago, Illinois State Senator, United States Senator. And I'll add he's not beholden to lobbyists.
Vs. Gramps who is in bed with the lobbyists, has Phil Graham as his economic advisor (same guy who aided Enron and the mortgage meltdown), doesn't know that Czechoslovakia doesn't exist anymore and thinks Iraq is safe when he goes shopping for prunes in a Baghdad market protected by a brigade of marines w/helicopters.
Gramps' flip-flops on every issue shows he can't be trusted. And his choice for VP does nothing but show that he, and not Obama, will pander to any group in order to win.
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Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to anotheramerican
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Posted by anotheramerican in reply to friedbergboy1422
Fried,
That is a different topic than the discussion, but you make a good point.
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Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
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Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to anotheramerican
Sorry for the multiple posts. Are you really saying that McCain doesn't need to stand behind what he authored?! Passing legislation that he doesn't believe in is an accomplishment these days, eh? If he no longer believes in what he put forth, what has he accomplished?
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 5:21:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by see it real in reply to anotheramerican
"McCain has years of successfully passed legislation to show his."
Those years include Liar McCain writing an immigration bill, and then voting AGAINST the very same bill he wrote? I think that's called flip-flopping and/or lying, so McCain is bascially a liar. Why do you support McCain's blatant lying?
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 11:05:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BlagoBoy in reply to foghornleghorn
"Bumbling old fogey"
the only bumbler in this race is St. Barack Obama who -- unless he reads a teleprompter like last night -- can;t get THREE words out of his mouth without stuttering and stumbler and saying "ah..um..y'know" He's a moron
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 11:59:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mescal in reply to BlagoBoy
What you're describing is McSame when he IS reading from a teleprompter. You're supporting a guy who finished fifth from the BOTTOM of his class at the Naval Academy, while Obama was an academic superstar, and is also a law proffessor.
The only thing that you got right in your post was when you signed it as Moron.
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Posted by pointofview in reply to RABBITLUVR
Rabbit
Dont forget....Obama is a community organizer. That alone is enough to run the free world.
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Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to pointofview
Yeah. And John McCain was a POW. A Vietnam War survivor. That's it. That's all he has.
Being an ex-POW will not help to turn this country around, to undo the horrendous damage that your buddy W has wreaked upon this country.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:14:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to pointofview
I'm not sure if you come from a large metropolitan area, but being a community organizer is a way for minorities to get a foothold on a political career because they usually do not have the financial means to run campaigns.
So your criticism of Obama in this instance is greatly misplaced. How about this - let's rate the candidates on their ideas for once and not on stereotypes or LIES. Obama wins hands down when you do it the right way.
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Posted by friedbergboy1422 in reply to pointofview
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Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to anotheramerican
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Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to failedbelle
Face it!! We're screwed!!
LOL
Actually, YOU'RE SCREWED!
I'm going to work my butt off to get Obama elected because I'm smart enough to know that no one with a brain wants another 4 years of McBush.
You may sit in the corner and be screwed, you sound like you need it.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:06:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by failedbelle in reply to pearlene_scott1602
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Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to failedbelle
Mr Obama
Brain work again. It's SENATOR OBAMA!
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Posted by pointofview in reply to failedbelle
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Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to pointofview
Mr. Obama is proud to know he has Pearl and all in AARP kniitng club behind him.
LOL
POV, still having a temper tantrum?
Just so you know, this is how you spell KNITTING. Twice you've tried to insult me and couldn't spell.
Tell your sitter it's time to change your bib, it's wet from all your drooling.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:12:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by anotheramerican in reply to pearlene_scott1602
Pearlene,
I never thought I'd see you stoop to that level.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:24:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to anotheramerican
I never thought I'd see you stoop to that level.
AA, I will do EVERYTHING in my power to make sure our next President isn't a Republican!
Now if it that offends your sensitive feelings, you need to get over it!
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Posted by anotheramerican in reply to pearlene_scott1602
Pearlene,
I think you exuberance is actually working against you. Insulting those with whom you disagree seldom convinces them of your position. We are simply discussing Obama and Palin and McCain, (where's Joe?) and have differences of opinion.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:10:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to RABBITLUVR
Did you see how many posts in this thread talking about anything but the topic?
They always flood the threads they find the most threatening!
Oh, and the new poster? Science101.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 10:23:35 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to anotheramerican
I think you exuberance is actually working against you. Insulting those with whom you disagree seldom convinces them of your position. We are simply discussing Obama and Palin and McCain, (where's Joe?) and have differences of opinion.
AA, I'm insulted by those who make stupid remarks like "lady parts may be enough" and I have no problem saying it.
And WHO made to the monitor?
If people don't like what I have to say, they don't have to respond, And that includes YOU.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:25:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to Preston_P
Preston
You may be right in everything you say. I am just not sure that it takes "large numbers" of women....or African Americans in the Obama/Rice example you gave to turn the election. A simple change in one or two states may do it.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:54:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by commonsenseliberal in reply to Preston_P
I think female voters, especially pro-choice female voters, will vote for Obama. Gov. Palin seems nice, but nobody knows anything about her, she has little experience, she's a fundie (Assemblies of God) and pro-forced birth (i.e. against abortion - sorry, I refuse to use the word 'pro-life' when describing the anti-abortion crowd). Pro-choice women and pro-choice republicans all over the country should see this as a warning sign.
IMHO, McCain made a bad decision by picking Palin, which will cost him the White House. And thank G-d he made that bad decision now, instead of later, possibly as president.
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Posted by see it real in reply to Preston_P
"I don't think this was a smart move by McCain. It's a big gamble. I just don't think it will sway a lot of Clinton supporters to his camp. Had Hillary Clinton won the nomination and decided not to put Obama as her VP, and McCain added Condi Rice to his ticket, I can assure you that blacks would not be persauded to vote for Republican in large numbers."
Preston, you called it exactly right! McCain has INSULTED women, as Rep. Debbie Wasseran-Schultz of Florida said today.
Mentioning the Rice as VP example, had Liar McCain picked Rice if Hillary were the candidate after turning down Obama, most African-Americans would have voted in LARGER numbers AGAINST McCain, since Rice is seen by most African-Americans as a war criminal, and because Rice had denounced MLK and other civil rights leaders as "troublemakers who upset the good white people of the South", and that Rice is pro-segregation and pro-Plessy, among other indictments.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 11:14:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to failedbelle
Lady parts might just be enough.
Only a Republican male or a moron would think that "lady parts" would be enough!
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Posted by failedbelle in reply to pearlene_scott1602
Sorry that you have to be so wrong. I'm neither. And since you're wrong, what does that make you?
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 3:06:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to failedbelle
Sorry that you have to be so wrong. I'm neither. And since you're wrong, what does that make you?
A fool for wasting my time with a moron. Bye Bye!
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Posted by pointofview in reply to pearlene_scott1602
Pearl
I can only hope......perhaps even the audacity of hope, that when you call a poster a name and say bye bye that you mean it. Perhaps you will leave and never come back. And please dont mention your 80 year old butt again. The thought of you working that thing off made me miss out on a good meal tonight.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:08:18 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to pointofview
And please dont mention your 80 year old butt again. The thought of you working that thing off made me miss out on a good meal tonight.
LOL
POV, didn't your momma teach you any manners? Oh, sorry I forgot about your momma.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:17:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to pearlene_scott1602
Well, I lost that one.
You broke your promise...you are back again. Your 80 year old butt still haunts me and will probably ruin breakfast as well. Where are the rolaids when I REALLY need them.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:19:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to pointofview
Well, I lost that one. You broke your promise...you are back again. Your 80 year old butt still haunts me and will probably ruin breakfast as well. Where are the rolaids when I REALLY need them.
Nah, once again,you can't read.
I said bye to failledbelle, YOU I like.
The thought of you tossing your breakfast, lunch or dinner thrills me to no end.
Posted Friday August 29, 2008 4:29:04 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pointofview in reply to pearlene_scott1602
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Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to pointofview
POV, don't think I'm ignoring you but it's Friday. It's time for this nursing home, AARP old lad