So FOX News has more credibility than ABC or CBS this time around?

 

 

And also, why are we treating NBC and MSNBC as two separate entities?

And also, why are we treating NBC and MSNBC as two separate entities?

Because they are.  They may share the same top management, but they operate as separate entities, as does CNBC.

I can't imagine hearing "Look, honey. It's Jim Leach!" in too many households.

Maybe he was ignored because outside of Iowa almost nobody knows who he is.

Wow, yet another idiotic post by Shoes.

Rabbit, must you continue with the nasty name-calling? Our sensitive wingnut posters demand respect and civility in response to their brilliant comments. Just like mommy and daddy always gave them.

Someone's gotta do it.

Sorry, but the way I see it is that we need to get into the gutter to fight this enemy we have on the Right. So far, the Dem convention has been a bit too lightweight in my view. Hopefully, Biden will change that.

I was kidding, Rabbit. I always get a good laugh out of the posters who come here with their politely-stated smears and lies, then get all fainty when you point out that they're idiots.

Shoes is one of those cowardly bombthrowers who will cast the bomb then scurry away hurriedly like a cockroach. One post in the thread and that's it. No followup, nuthin'. I have no qualms calling out idiots such as her. None. :)

Cowardly bombthrowers have a big future in the Karl Rove Media Empire.

I have to agree with this. I am fairly versed in politics, and I have no idea who this is beyond that I've heard the name mentioned before. I can't see why his speech would be of any interest to a news organization except for because of his party affiliation.

Except for...?

The party affiliation in and of itself MAKES IT a big deal!  He'd be a household name the very next day, if they'd aired his speech and highlighted that he's a Republican.

They buried it out of bias.  No other reason.  Zel Miller was only significant because he spoke at the RNC.  Leach is just a significant, for the same reason. 

(Excepting of course, that we KNOW it's just wrong to have a Democrat in the WH!  Can't have that!  No way! Better bury that speech!) /sarcasm >P

oh yeah, "Zell Miller" was a house hold name in 2004.

Zell-Out Miller... who could forget. Especially the moment when he yelled at Matthews - "Get outta my face!" What a lunatic.

Zig Zag Zell Liar Miller, who zig zagged on each and every issue except one,Zig Zag Zell is STILL pro-segregation, and Zig Zag Zell is STILL anti-civil rights. 

I can't imagine hearing "Look, honey. It's Jim Leach!" in too many households.

Maybe he was ignored because outside of Iowa almost nobody knows who he is.

But all across the Internet, people are saying, "Look, honey - it's another stupid post from Shoes on MMFA.  When is that woman gonna learn that she doensn't know what she's talking about??"

Jim Leach is now a pariah for the Right and its tools, aka ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, etc. He is a traitor to the Establishment.

You called it right, Rabbit.

mmfa uncritically links to a report stating, " Last night a well-respected Republican -- former Rep. Jim Leach"...without stating why he is well-respected...you know how mmfa detests that practice of uncritical reporting.

Here's a little background on the "well-respected" republican speaking at the democrat convention:

 -- Leach was usually reelected without much difficulty, he represented a district that was trending more Democratic. For most of his career, he represented the Democratic strongholds of Davenport and Iowa City. The district has not supported a Republican for president since 1984, and most of its state legislators are Democrats. -- wiki

Additionally, the American Conservative Union gives him a lifetime rating of 44...making it more appropriate to speak to a room full of democrats.

Leach was very well known for being a bright policy wonk, well respected by both Congress and the individual agencies. He was an expert with the figures.

Back when he was a doctrinaire Republican, the MSM always featured him somewhere. Much like Bob Barr, who too is now ignored. Both were considered to be shining lights.

Wesley, this comment seems more like something RINO HUNTER would post.

All week we've hear the media pontificating about the conservative wing of the Democratic Party, and how they might not support Obama

Now you imply that there's no room in the Republican "Big Tent Party" for anyone who is not a conservative?

You may be right. I'm not a Republican, so I wouldn't know. But my understanding of our system is that the two parties have a left, right and a centrist wing. If what you imply is true, then could the Republican Party be putting party before country?

 

 

Worrierking, in your last paragraph, you just answered your own question.

Republican politicians, and Republican voters, place their party before their country.  They also place their party before everything else sometimes, too.

Doesn't MMfA understand, there's a much more important story about who didn't speak at the 1992 convention, why should the media devote resources to something happening right now when they have a footnote from the past to cover?

And they're so busy investigating the plethora of scandals swirling around the corrupt Bush Administration.... oh, wait......never mind.

"Kurtz did not elaborate on his apparent assertion that the Post chose not to give greater attention or prominence to the Leach speech "[m]ainly" because the networks decided not to "feature[]" it."

This is what you call an orwellian slip.

Further, MSNBC aired only seconds of the speech while Hardball host Chris Matthews talked over him.

Well where was MMFA's Golden Boy Olbermann while Matthews was doing this? Sitting next to Matthews? Shouldn't he get a slap too?

 

There's always one or two who will cross over and support the other parties candidate so it's not really big news.  OTOH it was apparently BIG news when Zell Miller spoke at the Rep convention and you know it will be when Lieberman does it this time.  Media Matters is right to point out this disconnect.

Jim Leach must have given a WONDERFUL speech yesterday, based on all the nasty things M. Rotten Levin was saying about him on his radio pukefest as I was driving home last night......

That's something that you could probably take to the back easily. If Levin is against something, or calling someone names, then I must like whatever it is he's harping on.

For Wesley. You stated that how come MMFA didn't post anything in respect to how well respected Leach was or is, but then you followed it up with, well, nothing as to why you think he doesn't deserve respect. I think that you were trying to make the point that he's not a "real" conservative because he doesn't tote the party line all of the time. Isn't that what republicans are trying to pawn John McCain off on America as? The "Maverick" and all? So if McCain is OK, the Leach must be super! Because according to your numbers, he doesn't vote along the party line all of the time, so indeed, Leach must be the real Maverick.

I missed that one. Fill me in please... I won't go to his site for it.

The full text of Leach's speech is at http://www.clipsandcomment.com/2008/08/25/full-text-former-us-rep-jim-leach-speech-to-democratic-national-convention/

I saw/heard the whole speech on C-SPAN.  It was great.  C-SPAN is the only channel carrying everything.

I agree; this was fantastic speech filled with historical insight and good, solid points.  It's nice to have someone put Obama's potential presidency in historical context so intelligently.  I was pissed when the networks cut away from it. Apparently it wasn't flashy or dumb-downed enough for the masses to enjoy.  Oh well, it takes work to stay informed.

 

 

Leach hit the ball out of the park. His historical echo will resonate with the thinking voters. For those voters susceptable to trolling slogans - they won’t get it. Leach’s call should have run on prime time but today's "working press" doesn't understand the "working" part of the title.