My god, what a silly, silly woman!!

Welcome to the U.S. of A.

Her kind represents about-- oh, maybe 65 % of the total population. A nation of morons.

 

A lesser man than me would hope she gets raped and knocked up the day after congress outlaws all abortions, following the supreme court decision to overtu ROE v. WADE. 

Me?  I just wish these loonies would be content to live their OWN lives according to their respective medival superstitions and stop trying to shove them down the rest of our throats. 

Yeah... this country needs a new direction alright.  Good thing were at least STARTING to go that way.

THat's all well and good, but you see, when the raving left coast speaker of the house, starts expounding on Catholic Chirsitian Doctrine, trying to make it sound  that they don't know when they believe conception occurs, while saying she is a practicing Catholic, it' spretty hard for us "plain ol' folks clinging to our guns and religion" to not make a stink about such a thing. Of course, Pelosi's hubris, deceit, disingenuity, and agenda get pretty transparent to most of his, unlike the rest of you here, who will always put your heads in the sand.

trying to make it sound  that they don't know when they believe conception occurs

I have to admit that I may not understand this bit because I didn't hear Pelosi's speech myself.  For I moment I'll assume this should say something about "life beginning at concepcion?" (please correct me if I'm wrong.  Like I said: I didn't hear her speech.)

But if that's the case, I CAN assure you - it doesn't.  In fact there's not even the potential for life at that point.  It's absurd.  Until IMPLANTATION in the uterine wall there is NO POTETNTIAL FOR HUMAN LIFE. PERIOD.  To believe otherwsie is to fail Biology 101 and need to look up definition of potential.  (Something that's IMPOSSIBLE can't have the POTENTIAL to happen!  Which is the case of a fetus anywhere OTHER than implanted in the uterine wall!)

BTW - this argument does suggest that all abortions are still very much WRONG; assuming you value the POTENTIAL for life the same as [something fitting a more universal definition of] life.  (Which I do.)  But it clearly prooves that any and all anti-stem cell and anti-contracepcion nonsense - INCLUDING the "morning after" pill, are just that: medieval superstitious NONSENSE.

And even in admiting that abortion is immoral - and I believ that it is - NOTHING gives me the right to force that value onto someone else... Especially since WE DON'T KNOW when life begins, and WE ARE UNDER NO OBLIGATION to vlaue all stages of potential life equally.  And it certainly does not allow a doctor to refuse to give SOMEONE ELSE access to contraception.  Religious prohibitions apply only to the people who believe in them.  NO ONE ELSE. 

Honey, it's clear that you don't want a real conversation. If you ever change your mind, start out with some real policy concerns instead of a tone of disrespect.

Well its an increasingly silly industry. Wonder how long they can continue to show american industry at its most inane.

Roe V Wade will never be overturned.  It's a scare tactic by the left and a rallying cry by the right.  Both sides use it to raise money and get votes but the issue is settled, rightly or wrongly.

B*LLSH!#.  It absolutely CAN be overturned, as the four troglodytes sitting on the right of the Supreme Court have shown a breathatking disregard for any president that doesn't fit their narrow, extremist political viewpoint.  One more judge.  That's all it will take.  One judge, one challenge, and it's GONE.  Same goes for most of our cherished freedoms and legal protections.  You're a fool if you don't recognize this.  Outside of being both blinded and stupified by religious fanaticism, I don't understand how ANYONE can't see this. 

The Supreme Court is the only really improtant voting issue here people!!!  Everything else is transient and even the worst decisions last four years TOPS.  But these guys stick around FOR DECADES.  IF YOU DON'T THINK OUR CONSTITUTIONAL FREDDOMS ARE IN JEOPADRY WITH THIS COURT [AND GOD FORBID WITH ONE MORE CONSERVATIVE TROLL ON THE BENCH] THEN YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION!!!

Unfortunately, I think you're right.

I'm always right... whenever I sincerely hope I'm wrong!

But this has nothing on Nancy Pelosi redefining the Catholic Church's stance on abortion.

Get lost

I have 2 hands, a map, a compass, and a GPS. How can I get lost?

Maybe you could use that stuff to fire yourself into space, that way you can find Uranus.

Any POIs worth seeing over there?

Speaking of deep dark places, if he did that he did that and found it he could say hellow to everyone from fox knews. Ask insHANNITY how his end stage sypilis is progressing.

I have 2 hands, a map, a compass, and a GPS. How can I get lost?

When you have one hand constantly on your weiner, it should not be counted in your "inventory".  And your map, compass, and GPS won't help you, Wuss, because the one thing you're lacking is a clue.

Standard response to cover the fact that Nancy Pelosi forgot she was addressing a nation wide audience and not just the local access news in San Francisco...

What!?!?!?!?!?!?

 

 Cut it out you muppet!!

What are you babbling about?

Debra Bartoshevich says she's a Clinton supporter, but she isn't at all, because Hillary is asking her supporters to vote for Obama.  She isn't a Clinton supporter at all, because she is selling out Clinton's values and platform.  What on earth is she thinking?

OK, so her choice of nominees would be 1-HC 2-JM and 3-BO. Choice 1 is no longer an option, so now it's off to choice 2.

My guess is that she is thinking she wanted HC to be president, and with that choice gone, she at least wants some one who has some experience on the world stage, and someone who has a high enough "pay grade" to answer the tough questions. 

Yes because another right wing man child (this one who thinks with his penis, not out of a dry drunk flashback) with no knowledge of economics (as he himself said) with yet another neocon whispering in his ear that he has to be "tough" is just what we need as the person who is given what is supposed to be the top ob in the western world. Considering he still looks at maps with Czechoslovakia on them, and thinks that there is a Pakistan Iraq border, we should hope he is driving the "used to be straight talk! express over a cliff face.    

That bus is running on the fumes created by the passengers smoking the contents of the holding tank. That bus should have run flat tires.

Experience!  You think, McCain, who doesn't know that Czechloslovakia is not a country anymore, who doesn't know the difference between Suni & Shia, and thinks that Iraq and Pakistan share a border, is even credible?!  Hah!  Ignorance is not bliss.  This woman is delusional, and so are you.

UK, you beat me by 4 minutes ;-)

   Knowledge?!? You think O'bama has knowledge when he doesn't even know what city he is in moment to moment?? He was in St. Louis with a nice family one moment, then moments later he was transported to Kansas City with the same family. Good thing his daughter was there to help him remember where he is at.

Knowledge?!? You think O'bama has knowledge when he doesn't even know what city he is in moment to moment?? He was in St. Louis with a nice family one moment, then moments later he was transported to Kansas City with the same family. Good thing his daughter was there to help him remember where he is at.

Obama was in St. Louis the night before, so that was an honest mistake.  Iran and Pakistan have NEVER shared a border, so that's an example of Gramps McCain being unfit for the presidency.

"Obama was in St. Louis the night before, so that was an honest mistake."

   You mean he can't remember from night to night where he is at? When that call comes in at 3am, will he have to try to remember who called? Hopefully not thinking about who called the night before?

This from the man who supports the former POW who doesn't even know what terrorists we are at war with, who doesn't know what countries border other countries, and who has to have Losermann of all people correct him when he speaks. McCain would forget where his head was at if it wasn't attached so firmly to Bush's behind.

"the former POW who doesn't even know what terrorists we are at war with, who doesn't know what countries border other countries, and who has to have Losermann of all people correct him when he speaks."

   So you're saying that not knowing the difference between president and vice-president and not knowing how many states are in this country and not knowing where he is moment to moment is better than not knowing world geography?

   Oh, O'bama needed a 5 year old to ask him to clarify his location.

So you're saying being an adulterer, lying about your adopted child, lying about your time as a POW, being corrected by Losermann, having your campaign surrogates say "when mccain says that on the campaing trail, he really isn't speaking for the mccain campaign" and the million other flip flops and uh, I forgot how many houses I have, what car I drive, and who I sleep with makes you more qualified?

Kahn, I'm laughing at your superior intellect...

   The guy is rich. Even O'bama could NOT get the number of houses McCain owns right. The next day Obama comes out with an attack ad whining about McCain not knowing how many houses he has. O'bama claimed McCain owned 7. His brilliant staff of "fact checkers" could not even come close. According to an AP article the next day, McCain owns 8 homes, and that one of the properties has several houses on it which could take the count up to 12 or 13 depending on how you count them.

   So, O'bama creates an attack ad that is full of lies (which O'bama approved) and you think O'bama is qualified. McCain isn't the only liar out there.

   BTW, the rest of your list was inacurate, also. You just make that stuff up to sound impressive, don't you? Typical liberal

You don't travel much do you?  I've said "Spain" when I was in "Portugal."  That can get you into a fist-fight over there, but it happens.  Personally, if you were ever in 17 cities in 20 days, I'm sure you'd made a mistake or two.  Mistakes are OK.  They happen.  Correct yourself, laugh it off and move on.  That's what strong MEN and WOMEN do. 

OTH - clinging to a mistake and insisting it's right, throwing good money (and lives) after bad?  That the act of a spoiled child.  Not knowing shia/sunni, Chzeck's not a country, Iran/Pakistan borders, etc, etc, etc... Well, those would be just mistakes... But when they guy (repeatedly)making them claims to be some kind of EXPERIENCED FORIEGN POLICY WONK and then tries to paint his opponent otherwise...  That goes WAY BEYOND a simple mistake.  It's called IGNORNACE, LIES or HYPOCRASY.  (Pick one, and hang it around your candidate's neck, because THAT'S what you're voting for.)

"You don't travel much do you?  I've said "Spain" when I was in "Portugal."  "

   Yes, I've travelled a bit. I have said "I don't know" when I didn't know where I was. But, when I was in Baumholder Germany, I said I was in Baumholder Germany. When I was in Taipei Taiwan I said I was in Taipei Taiwan. When I drive from east coast to west coast, I will say I don't know which state/city I'm in at any given time if I don't know.

   But, to be camped out with a local family (for the evening) and NOT know where you are is just plain stupid. Ignorant, if you want me to be friendlier. What a great president he will make...."should I bomb Iran or Turkey...ah it doesn't matter...they're all the same".  I look forward to THAT statement from him soon.

"should I bomb Iran or Turkey...ah it doesn't matter...they're all the same".  I look forward to THAT statement from him soon.

Again, this is somethig you're more likely to hear from McCain.  Obama made a mistake.  Unless he's touting his National Ranking in the High Geography Bee that's all it is.  McCain has made MANY statements now barely more enlightened that your example above, all the while touting his foreign policy experience and saying that his opponent doesn't understand these matter.  (Like say... the difference between shiites and sunni's.)

Yea....and in his little speech Monday, Obama did not know if he was in Kansas City St. Louis.  There is the man I trust to lead the free world.

   Yeah, he doesn't know what city is which and he doesn't know how many states there are. Has anyone asked O'bama where Pakistan is or whether Iraq and Pakistan share a border? How many houses does O'bama own? Doesn't matter...they were all bought with the help of that felon.

How does someone go through life as clueless as you, Philib?????

   I'm not totally clueless. I know what city I am in at any given moment. And, I know there are 50 states, not 57. I also would know I am introducing the VP when "I" am the one running for president. Maybe O'bama and I are equals...you think I'm clueless, I experience his cluelessness daily.

I'm not totally clueless. - Phil

Denial is the first step...

Philib, first off you may know which city you are in, but I'd like to know which planet you are on? Also, which city sits on the Iraq/Pakinstan border?

P.S. I don't like to talk about it but,  I am the real POW. So you cannot say anything bad about me.

  So, you must know there are only 47 states. And St louis is the same as Kansas city. And, you would know the difference between president and vice-president---especially if YOU were the president.

Philib, my keyboard is running out of ink so I'll be ending contact with you.

Did you just say that there are 47 states and St.Louis and Kansas City are the same city? Is that what you just wrote? Can I quote you last post in the future?

Got to stop now, my keyboard has been taken over by the ghost of the Original Philib. Goodbye Philib..good luck getting responses from other posters. I cannot post with someone who believes there are 47 states unless it was just a slip of the finger.

Phil, why are you spouting off about Obama's 57 states thing when you have already admitted that you believed he misspoke?

Hard to understadn isn't it?  Welcome to PhilibWorld. but you shouldn't vivist again.

   I see how it is in looney liberal world; O'bama can claim 57 states and not know the difference between St Louis and Kansas City and you love him, but if I claim there are 47 states and no difference between those two cities, you claim I'm impossible to deal with. What a whiney hypocrit you are!!

Last month she started making loud public statements about supporting McCain while she was still scheduled to attend the Democratic Convention as a Hillary delegate.  They told her to stop.  She didn't.  They removed her delegate status.  After that she made a very bitter statement  that after the "way she had been treated" she would never support the party again.

Yeah, that's pretty sane and rational.

   Well, isn't that pretty expected of a liberal? You people change you minds depending on who'll give you the most. You're the most hypocritical people in the nation.

You just described the entire republican party, not liberals. Nice try at rewriting history though.

Hey Phi, the last wingnut stooge I put this one to couldn't answer it, let's see how you fare:

Eight years ago the Republican Party decided that the man who may go down in history as the worst American President ever was more qualified for the job than McCain.  So, in the past eight years, how has McCain become more qualified now than he was then?

"So, in the past eight years, how has McCain become more qualified now than he was then?"

   Because the previously more qualified candidate is no longer able to run for the office. You do know your constitution, right? He can only be in office for 2 terms.

   If it will help you understand my concerns...the supreme court got 2 good judges during the Bush administration. I don't think ginsberg will live through another presidency, so I will vote republican in order to get another good judge in there. His stance on abortion will also weigh heavily on my mind during election day. The Iraq war is a toss up. Both guys say the same thing-- reduce troops. But each mean 100K troops will stay there. After that, all the issues run together and none stand out as any more important than another.

 

And what are your thoughts on McCain's experience on world stage please?

Also, please: 

Do not mention Georgia, he (and his campaign) is on their pay roll.

Do not mention Iraq, he favors NEVER brings our troops home. Even the Bush administration accepted a timetable (horizon, whatever).

lastly, please do not mention bomb bomb bomb Iran.

Well, even if you mention any of above, please explain how his policy is not a continuation of Bush's.

What 'tough questions' has McCain answered so far?

What 'tough questions' has McCain answered so far?- my4cents1172

Good question, Myfour. "How many houses do you have" seemed like a real stumper to GramPOW, and that seems like a creampuff for most people.

The hardest question I've heard anyone ask him was about the point at which a baby gets human rights. That one's impossible to answer, as it's all philosophy and opinion and religion, but he came up with a crazy answer without hesitation.

Maybe he's a bit of a surrealist, confused by simple reality-based questions, while jumping on abstract poetic types.

Hopefully for him the debates will cover topics like "How do you mend a broken heart ?" and "How many angels can dance on the head of a pin?"

What 'tough questions' has McCain answered so far?

Well, tough questions, such as the number of homes he owns, have forced John McCain to discuss his experience as a POW...and you know how much he hates to talk about that. ;>)

   Of course we can always ask him what city he is in. Or, how many states there are in the US. Those are always tough questions for the college trained politicians. We can always ask McCain to introduce the "next president" to the nation as he introduces his VP choice. It's always difficult to keep those straight.

In our News interview, he was asked what kind of car he drove. As with Politico’s question about home ownership, he didn’t know and had to ask a nearby aide. “A Cadillac CTS,” she told him.

Q: I’m just saying is he for taking away the tax breaks for big oil?

GRIFFIN: Yes!

Q: He is for that?

GRIFFIN: Yes. The tax breaks in the 2005 energy bill, Senator McCain believes they should be repealed, yes.

Romney: McCain Doesn’t Speak For McCain When He Suggests Renegotiating The Colorado River Compact»

What do you expect though? This is the same guy who lies about his pow experience, lies about his adopted daughter and lies about his voting record. So if all you got is some pissy little beef about Obama making a little gaffe run with it, cause it's nothing compared to the moron you plan on voting for.

But really, keep doing that. You've managed to kill everyone else but like a poor marksman, you keep... missing... the target!

Revenge is a dish best served cold...

But really, keep doing that.

Don't encourage them, Snoop. The wingnuts have already repeated their same points about 20 times in this thread.

Repetition really seems to be the key with wingnut talking points. Just like training parrots to talk or dogs to sit, it works on them. It's cute when they think it's going to work on humans.

Yeah, Dickless Cheney and Rummy had lots of experience on the World Stage, too.... how's that working out for you?

and you're relying on the fact that Clinton supporters don't think so they'll follow the herd? How very... "democratic" in your views.. lol

 

Mitt Romney on John McCain: 

“Senator McCain was a senator. He had to vote. He had to decide, 'Am I in favor of pursuing these tax cuts or not,' and he voted against the tax cuts — twice.”

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2007-12-23-romney-mccain_n.htm

 

"His plan calls for a new financial burden to be placed on people who are purchasing gasoline, or for that matter, natural gas to heat their homes or to cook in their homes. The energy information agency has said that his plan would cost America 300,000 jobs. In addition, people would pay, they estimate, approximately 50 cents per gallon more for gasoline and 20 percent more for their gas utility bill. That would depress the economy just at a time when we’re trying to stimulate the economy.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/01/27/politics/fromtheroad/entry3756414.shtml

 The Cato Institute on John McCain“The foreign policy that John McCain now advocates is reckless and promiscuously interventionist. If he were a university student majoring in international relations or security studies, he would deserve a resounding F for his analysis of the crucial issues that the United States has confronted over the past 14 or 15 years. After a promising start, his performance has steadily deteriorated. The last thing that America needs is an even more aggressive and incompetent steward of foreign policy than George W. Bush has been.”

http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=9548

 Rush Limbaugh on McCain:

"I believe the country will suffer with either Hillary, Obama or McCain…”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/04/AR2008020402798.html

 Ann Coulter on McCain:

“John McCain is Bob Dole minus the charm, conservatism and youth. Like McCain, pollsters assured us that Dole was the most "electable" Republican. Unlike McCain, Dole didn't lie all the time while claiming to engage in Straight Talk.”

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=59854

 George W Bush on McCain:

On the one hand, he preaches campaign funding reform. On the other hand, he says pass the plate.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0002/09/ip.00.html

  

Go ahead, keep working the primary angle for your ads John.  There’s a lot more stuff like this to be found.

 

If the Democrats don't use that material in a commercial, they're incompetent.

Good Work! I really love it when a WND article can be cited to support democratic points. Great job.

Is she saying the pledge of alliegance? Cause she's got her hand over her esophagus. Just sayin...

In fairness to the networks, mentioning that McCain supporters are confused may not be considered "news".

"McCain supporters are confused"

   What city are YOU in? Talk about confused...your candidate is confused!

Philib, you've already stated that you think there are 47 states in this country. I don't think you need to demonstrate your confusion any further.

   And O'bama says there are 57 states. But, you love him.  Hypocrit

I just looked at an interview with Debra Bartoshevich, the young woman who was elected in Wisconsin to be a Hillary Clinton delegate.  After Clinton withdrew, Bartoshevich announced that she would vote for McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJm-56iKMAo&feature=user

The Wisconsin Democratic Party then removed her as a delegate, citing a pledge the woman had signed to support the Democratic nominee.

She has now been used in a McCain campaign ad.

I am having a hard time understanding what this young woman is about.  She didn't state (in fairness she wasn't asked) why she was for Hillary Clinton so it's impossible to know if there are any policy issues (on women's rights, on the economy, on health care, on Iraq) that are important to her.  Perhaps none are.  But, if there are, then it would be difficult to see where McCain and Clinton agree on any of these issues.

As to the supposed unfairness of the Wisconsin Democratic Party in unseating her - she admits that she signed a pledge that she would support the Party's nominee.  On this she suggests that she didn't know what she was signing - which merely reflects poorly on her - and that she signed expecting Hillary Clinton to be the nominee - as to this, one would hope that she might understand that in an election no one is guarenteed victory (that is after all the point of the election) and that if her promise to follow the rules was conditional on the outcome she has no one to blame but herself.

Most tellingly she repeatedly refers to the "Wisconsin Democrat Party".  The phrase "Democrat Party" is used by some Republicans as a rather immature way to "razz" the Democrats.  It is only used by partisan Republicans.  Democrats all refer to the Democratic Party. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(phrase)

It certainly suggests that she is a plant who is simply trying to disrupt the Democrats' nominating process.

It certainly suggests that she is a plant who is simply trying to disrupt the Democrats' nominating process.

That was my suspicion as well.  I'm sure that if someone dug in to the Wisconsin voter registration records, they would show that until recently she was a registered Republican.

Well, maybe this is for the best. If these people aren't Republican plants, they're too stupid to be Democrats.

How could anyone who genuinely supported Hillary's issues vote for McGrumpy? The only possible reasons are fear, racism or stupidity.

Maybe the Hillary supporters who now will vote for McCain feel that in four years Hillary will get a second chance to become the nominee. Sabotage Obama and forget about what a McCain Presidency will do to the country.

If the country still has elections. But Hillary hold-outs will expect everyone to vote for her.

I wish the media would stop giving McCain all this free airtime by "reporting" on his ads.