ROVE: You know, the United States unilaterally splitting up a sovereign nation, Iraq, and telling everybody they had to move to their own geographically separate quarters. A little strange.

No stranger than invading a sovereign nation to impose a democratic form of government.

Amplifying his remarks, the former POW, John McCain, said he was pretty sure that he didn't own any houses in Iraq... ;>)

C'mon Irony!!

 

You know the only house McCain had overseas was in Hanoi when he was a POW!!

 

Why is this woman still allowed to interview McCain anyway? Didn't her network edit the last one she diod with him to create a false answer. I'm surprising myself saying this, but even FoxNews havn't had the balls to do that!!!

You know the only house McCain had overseas was in Hanoi when he was a POW!!

Yes...and in this same interview the former POW confirmed that the said home was not equipped with either a table or a chair...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12754.html

But the former POW doesn't like to talk about it...

At least the media largely seems to have stopped with the whole "McCain doesn't like to mention his time in Vietnam" now.

A verb, a noun, POW. 

Or, to be accurate, in Liar John McCain's case, a noun, a verb, and three initials.

To be fair to Irony McCain, the former POW, did say he wasn't sure if one of his homes was on the Iraq/Pakistan border.

Yea...and the former POW marked the spot with a cross in the sand.

I like his political ads. Every one ends with "I'm John McCain, the former POW, and I approve of this message.".

After he loses the election, I predict he will do Vicodin and Percocet commercials. I still want him to give me his definition of evil and how he would identify evil. If he wins, my 91 year old mother will have to enlist, go to boot camp and get fitted for a uniform. I might be able to get a government contract to make all the wood parts on the space shuttle so I can stay here in the USA. I am sort of banking on this.

Congratulations DJASPER2761!

We'd like to sign you up for our party. Our leadership consists almost entirely of others, like yourself, who would have gladly sold out their grandmother to avoid serving themselves. Sorry but our list of candidates this year was so lame, we resorted to using someone not smart enough to avoid serving. But don't let that stop you from singing the enclosed membership card.

We may even have a leadership position for you since you show such patriotism in your willingness to stay stateside with the other patriotic folks who work work as bug killers, rich guys sons, and common drunks.

One word of caution. As much as we like to see initiative, we're concerned that you may be one of those tree hugging hippies with your suggestion to use renewable resources like wood to build our spacefleet. Might I suggest you rework your idea to include more corrosive, environmentally unfriendly materials? Just a suggestion.

And don't forget to wear your flag pin for your interview.

Welcome to the Republican Party

But don't let that stop you from singing the enclosed membership card. - WorrierKing

Does it come with the necessary sheet music?  Is there a penalty for being out of tune, like personal lessons with Ashcroft?

Let the eagle soar ...

I would use endangered exotic woods for the shuttle parts and dry them in my kiln using Bald Eagle feathers. I am a wood worker/ artist and obviously there are no wooden parts on the space shuttle. It is exhausting to have to explain sarcasm. I would like to hear Mc"C" explain his "evil" statement as I layed out in the post you evidently did not understand. About the only thing I want from asscraft is a video of him exploring the Titanic wreckage without any under water breathing apparatus. If this country was under threat from nefarious outside individuals or countries, even at sixty years of age, I would take measures to fight. This is why I am a member in good standing with MMFA and the "Sane against insHANNITY Society" Your post really puzzles me. Seriously, what do you really mean? Spit it out and don't beat around the bush as this is Laura's job.

Well done. Your suggestion to use exotic, non renewable wood products intrigues me. And those bald eagle feather will do nicely.

I think we might be able to entice that Hannity fellow into becoming an astronaut for the maiden voyage. I've been working on a pressure suit for Sean made from the skin of endangered bears and coated with the feathers of the protected piping plover. It will protect him during extra-vehicular activity.

And please don't worry, if you ship design or my pressure suit design fails, the right will have no problem replacing Mr. Hannity.

I'm growing some cucumbers in my yard. One has a face that I though was Jesus, but now I'm convinced that it's the face of Sean Hannity. I've contacted Fox and they said they'd like to interview the cuke but they said that they're probably will not be interested in anyone smarter than Sean, so there goes that idea.

Sean Hannity doesn't a need a rocket to go into space.  When he wants space, he'll send Chuck Norris to fetch it. 

By the way, Chuck Norris was once named "Sean Hannity".  That was his LAST mistake.

insHANNITY is perfectly qualified to be an astronaut, after all he took up space in school. As a wood worker, I sell my work to galleries all over the US and used to do high end juried art and craft shows. I liked to cut up with the customers (laughing prospects buy) and would tell some I had a contract to make all the wood parts on the space shuttle. About 50% were really impressed by that as they believed me. Of course they were crushed when I told them there were no wood parts on the shutlle. A nice burl wood dash would be great on the shutlle though. If insHANNITY did go into space, there would have to be a smoking room on the space craft as he still smokes his own poop!

UK, you forget that BOTH Couric and GOP-Viacom-CBS are in COLLUSION with Liar McCain. 

Couric's a right wing Republican hate hag who wants Liar McCain to be elected, as do her bosses at GOP-Viacom-CBS.  The only difference between GOP-Viacom-CBS and the Fox Lies Channel is that the Fox Lies Channel are OVERT supporters of the Republicans, while GOP-Viacom-CBS supports the Republicans from behind the back door. 

I think he had to ask someone on his staff before he could confirm that he didn't.

I think he had to ask someone on his staff before he could confirm that he didn't.

TRANSLATION: I'll have to check with Cindy.   ;>)

I don't know if you saw Keith Olberman a few days ago when he reported that a reporter had caught up with John McCain's brother and asked him about the number of homes the former POW owned. The former POW's brother said that in the McCain family the women usually handle the finances. As an example he said his mother handled his family's financial affiars and that the former POW's father couldn't even tell you anything about the oil wells in Oklahoma they owned...that his mother handled that. Makes you wonder about the former POW and whether he's up to handling trillions of dollars if he doesn't even handle the money in his own household. Maybe he'll have to rely on Cindy for that...

I watched it Thursday when they showed the interview where he said he would have to ask his staff how many houses he had.

No one has asked him how many states there are in this country. Dementia is a terrible thing to see. I thought Viagra would help with that. Guess not.

Hey irony, Well I got slammed in by previous post. I am sending every body a box of senses of humor for the holiday season.

Oops, sorry. I hope you didn't think my post was a slam at you.

I knew that your post was satirical and though that you'd see my response the same way.

I do now. Of course every post on MMFA is satire, right. Everybody pretty much is complete agreement on virtually everything. I have some dung beatles in my back yard on one of them hopped up on my lap (I told him to leave the dung on the ground though)  In the course of our long chat, this little dung beattle informed me that insHANNIT is his brother and how embarresed he is of insHANNITY's lunatic right wing views and how insHANNITY has refused to send him some larger dung balls. This , I said, is shameful and gave him a big pile so he could roll it around. I have informed the Obama camp as to what I did and it will be used in an upcoming ad. The facial characteristics of this dung "bug" and insHannity were remarkable. I saw another one that looked like bill o'really and one on crutches that looked like Mc"C". Who would have thunk it?

So, not only did McCain lie about Biden's idea, but it was a great idea from a great thinker. I also don't believe a united Iraq can't survive for long without a dictator or 150,000 foreign troops to keep it a united nation.

So, he attacks him for something he didn't say, and ignores that fact that what Biden did say was a great proposal. What a sad nominee for the Republicans.

And he went from being unwanted to being considered the GCOAT, and all the things his biggest supporters said before he got the nominee all of a sudden just, um, vanished.

 

... and they accuse the Dems of being full of flip-floppers. Amazing what Selective Alzheimers can do.

And he went from being unwanted to being considered the GCOAT

You mean like his 9000 votes vs. Hillarys 18,000,000 votes?

Ain't that somethin'? Great country we live in.

Now I know why you don't call yourself "Arithmetic101."

REMEDIAL101 was already taken...  ;>)

This is NOT directed to you. Defective synapses manifest themselves primarily on the right.

Selective alzheimers is scientifically known as sometimers. What was the topic........

He was proposing sort of a United States of Iraq.

United States of Iraq 

That's exactly what Biden was suggesting...autonomous states under a federalized system.

However, it's my understanding that the former POW says that he was against Biden's suggestion because anything with the name United States in it was probably too liberal and, besides, Biden only wanted to raise the taxes of the Iraq people...   ;>)

Is anyone really surprised Couric didn't challenge McCain? She is a horrible interviewer; actually she's a horrible anchor. Before anyone starts screaming sexism; I am a woman and a news junkie; and I think she stinks. I no longer TiVo the CBS Evening News; and I can't watch her 60 Minutes segments. I think it's sad; I used to really respect the CBS News Division. I don't expect them to get any better as long as they keep her in the anchor chair; can't have the real reporters making the anchor look like window-dressing.

I've said it before. Any time they want a sparkle in Couric's eyes, all the CBS techs have to do is aim a fill light at the back of her head.

hahaha... I don't care who you are. That was funny!

Couric has shown from literally Day 1 at CBS that she's in the tank for the right wing.  Inviting Rush Limbaugh onto the CBS Evening News is all the proof any sentient being (which automatically excludes ColombianScience, Shoes, Philib, AnotherAmerican, Leatherhelmet, etc.) needs that Couric is actively working with the Repugnantcons to make CBS Faux News Lite...

Left,

Sentient? Ok. Good attempt snarkiness. I'll give you credit for that.  :-) 

Why is it that lefties here cannot just make their point without resorting to childish names for ideological opponents?

This obsessive need to insult and derogatory names makes you, (and others who obsess with these names,) sound too radical to be taken seriously.  Posts like yours reminds me of the Olympic divers who have gone too far when they enter the water. They make a nice splash, but lose points. :-) 

Isn't it you that seems to have a little pet name for everyone normally taking something from their screen name, and then adding something to it?

Mags,

Glad to see someone else has the same faulty memory. You are misresembling me. Next you'll say we all look alike! :-)  

Must have been someone else of your ilk.

"Couric has shown from literally Day 1 at CBS that she's in the tank for the right wing. Inviting Rush Limbaugh onto the CBS Evening News is all the proof any sentient being (which automatically excludes ColombianScience, Shoes, Philib, AnotherAmerican, Leatherhelmet, etc.) needs that Couric is actively working with the Repugnantcons to make CBS Faux News Lite..."

Correct as your post is, it's only HALF of the story.

Katie Couric was a right wing Republican BEFORE she went to GOP-Viacom-CBS, she showed favoritism to the Republicans whe she was at GOP_GE-NBC.

You are right about GOP-Viacom-CBS being another extension of the corporatist coservative Republican Party controled news media. 

Couric didn't call McCain on his false statement about Biden's Iraqi three-state plan for two simple reasons: one, she didn't know what McCain was talking about, and two, even if she did she was doing her job by letting the old boy get away with it. Couric wants to be in bed with McCain, but can't decide in which house to do it in.

Hahaha...  Must be the convention is firing you guys up. :-) 

It's more like 7+ years of George W. Bush in the White House. Actually, I've been personally fired up since about 2001 (January of 2001). I just keep getting more and more fired up, as we approach January 2009.

Good for you!  I love the election season!

(off topic) Unfortunately I believe Obama blew it with Biden as his veep.

He would have locked up the election by having Hillary as #2.

Now we'll see if McCain can return the favor? 

When we're in need of a concern troll to inform us of all the pitfalls we're missing, we'll let you know, but until then, your services are not required.

I do believe he did propose breaking up Iraq into three parts on Meet the Press quite a while ago,even before the surge began.he re-iterated it several times over the past few years,but what does it all mean now, since the surge has worked and no one took this proposal seriously anyway. It's always best to leave these kinds of decisions to trained military experts.    General David Petraus has done an outstanding job,I'm sure we can all agree on that.

 How come no one has commented on Mr Obama's brother who lives in a shack and only makes 12 dollars a year? Is this not as bad or worse than Mclame not knowing how many homes he owns? Would any of us make 4 million dollars and not help OUR BROTHER who  lives in squalor? I understand Cindy Mccain bought one of those homes for an aunt and one was for her daughter. If Mr. Obama will not help his own flesh and blood, what make s us think he gives a snit about the american people?                               

Why are people like you so eager to prove that you have the reading comprehension of someone who doesn't know how to read yet, and the morals of someone who has no morals, and the common sense of someone who has no sense at all?

Go back and read just the bold section at the beginning.

Then read something besides a right wing rag about how Obama's brother has a job, and owns a small business, and manages just fine, and likes his life just the way it is. But somehow you know better than the man himself how he should live? No common sense, no brains, and no morals. What a delightful combo. I sure hope you don't truly pollute our military with your presence.

How come no one has commented on Mr Obama's brother who lives in a shack and only makes 12 dollars a year? Is this not as bad or worse than Mclame not knowing how many homes he owns? Would any of us make 4 million dollars and not help OUR BROTHER who  lives in squalor? I understand Cindy Mccain bought one of those homes for an aunt and one was for her daughter. If Mr. Obama will not help his own flesh and blood, what make s us think he gives a snit about the american people? 

BEFORE you repeat lunatic fringe "talking points", use your brain AND your computer and G O O G L E Obama's brother and YOU will find:

Obama's Brother Chooses Life in Slow Lane

But Kenya has few roads, railways and airports and nothing like the city of Chicago. And that's just fine for Malik Obama, the older half-brother of Barack Obama, the Illinois Democrat running for U.S. Senate.

"An African doesn't need too much to go on," he said.

Still, Malik Obama prefers the village to the fast-paced capital, Nairobi, where he grew up. He runs an electronics shop in a town a half-hour drive away, and works as a consultant in Washington for a few months each year.

It was in the United States, in 1985, that he first met his 43-year-old half-brother Barack.

"He was best man at my wedding and I was best man at his," said Malik, who likes to point out that his younger brother's name is actually Barack Obama II, because their father was the original Barack Obama.

Barack grew up in Hawaii with his American mother after his parents divorced. He has visited Kenya three times, most recently in the early 1990s to introduce his fiancee to his Kenyan family.

When pressed for more details about the family, Malik said, "As far as I'm concerned, we are one family."

Sitting in his shop, wearing glasses and a traditional cap, Malik explained that he likes his privacy. He hasn't enjoyed visits by dozens of journalists searching for the African family of an up-and-coming politician.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496

 

Oops! And yet ANOTHER false right wing talking point shot down by the man himself.

I just sent Couric an e-mail...

Thank you for the fine post FISHER.   I can see you're really on top of things.  I think we can all agree on that.

Maybe you should go to Africa yourself and interview Obama's half-brother?  You only make a fool of yourself when you repeat the lies and smears of Rush and Hannity, and their dozens of clones, etc.

How come no one has commented on Mr Obama's brother who lives in a shack and only makes 12 dollars a year?

Because it ain't true. I saw the guy interviewed last week and he resented that he has been portrayed as destitute. Yes, he lives in a small village that is poor by our standards of living. But he was dressed nicely, spoke well and he's not destitute as Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have shamelessly depicted him in an attempt to make Obama look bad. Why don't you spend less time listening to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and get some real information?

Irony, most of the "people" who listen to Liar Hannity and Liar Drugbaugh are just as big or BIGGER right wing liars than they are.

Roly-Poly Fish Head falls in the BIGGER RIGHT WING LIARS category.

Would any of us make 4 million dollars and not help OUR BROTHER who  lives in squalor? phonyUSMCgirl

You mean someone like Cindy McCain who publicly states she's an only daughter while her two sisters live in near squalor conditions here in the USA vs. some half brother who lives in Kenya? Someone like that two faced hipocrite?

according to mickey C, 4 million a year is just middle class. Considering how financially strapped the middle class is right now, perhaps we could get Malick up to 13 dollars a year tops. Even that might be a stretch. I wonder if babybush could sqeeze about a mill for each American out of the treasury in the form of another rebate? He could then have a legacy.

Oops! Aparently Cindy's hipocracy doesn't just extend to her sisters. Why does she treat her adopted colored child poorer than she does her biological children?

"Meghan, Jack and James, the biological children of Mr. and Mrs. McCain, each have 7.73 percent of Hensley & Company... Bridget McCain, the McCain's adopted daughter, has shares worth 3.4 percent."

since the surge has worked

The surge has NOT worked.  There is NOT a working political settlement, which was the reason behing the escalation, er, surge.

Dropping 40,000 well trained and hopefully well equipped marines into any city in the world would reduce violence.  It's another false victory cry for the Bush apologists.  Surge Accomplished!!!

If our military can't quell the street fighting in Iraq, we are in deep doodoo. (we kind of blew it in Nam due to a multitude of reasons. Not the least of which it was also based on BS) If we assign 4 soldiers to each man, woman and child in Iraq, we might be able to keep civilian deaths to a even smaller level. Problem is: The different religious and idealogical factions in that country, have a tendency to kill others that don't agree to their respective phylosophies. Correct me if I am wrong, our military will never be able to abrogate Hate and the Iraqi Government will never be able to legislate and end to hate. We can't even do that with the republicants or a majority of right wingers. These folks hate progress ( they call me a progressive with a negative connotation and use the word liberal as if is synonimous with being a child molester. Yjey also call us pro choice with the same negative inflection.) The military is very effective at brainwashing. ( of course it has to be but, at some point one must come out of the fog and think for themselves instead of groupthink.

McCain didn't even bother to vote on the amendment. Check the "vote" link above. Couric didn't bring that up, either.

This is the authoritarian mindset of the modern Republican. Suggesting people keep their cars running well equals "tire inflation police", and a sensible idea about possible sectarian divisions in Iraq becomes "unilaterally" dividing the country. It's like they don't understand anything but force and totalitarianism, so any sane comments get translated into that frame.

It's like they don't understand anything but force and totalitarianism...

You got that right...and IMO it also explains why they always want to go to war at the drop of a hat. 

Well, if the only tool you have is the military, every problem looks like a war.

I understand your point.

What other tools do you feel are available but not or under used?  

You're a tool, and you're definitely overused.

That's because Republican Liar Katie Couric wants Liar McCain to be elected, ad GOP-Viacom-CBS wants Liar McCain to be elected, too.

I saw pictures of Obama's brother and story about him and his life in a major New York newspaper. And yes I have been in Africa and have seen the terrible poverty and senseless killing over there. How about any of you? How can you make excuse after excuse for this treatment of one's one brother? You mean the great Obama cannot even afford to send his brother 100 dollars for a nicer shack? I never made any excuses for McLames wife, but you people here will make any excuse for your candidate. You make it sound like he is the perfect human being who can do no wrong. He even admitted what he did with Rezco was a boneheaded move but I'm sure as you always do, you will accuse me of lying. I understand that one of Biden's sons is a big time Washington lobbiyist, but I'm sure he is as pure as the driven snow just like Obama.

 You mean the great Obama cannot even afford to send his brother 100 dollars for a nicer shack?

How do you know Obama didn't offer assistance but his brother turned it down?  That's right - you don't and assume the worst. 

As someone born in Africa and who still has relatives there l read this story with interest. The simple fact is that it is so much bunk. His brother has stated that he doesn't want people to know they are related and wants tpo be left alone. I was also offeneded by the McCain ad which mentioned him. The ad was bad enough but i'm glad Obama wasn't from South Africa. If he were we would ahve been treated to lots of pictures of Zulus in grass skirts. One up i assume from the wonderful rightwing sterotype of a savage with a bone thrugh his nose. 

I see you are still trying to run your strawman argument while ignoring the question about McCain's wife publically declaring she's an only child. Her two sisters live in near poverty in the good 'ol US of A and she and her elitist husband ignore their existance. How can we expect McCain to worry about the American people when the old geezer refuses to help his own family? Geesh.

I have been amazed so far at the CBS coverage...Are they taking a feed directly from Fox??

Katy Couric has been awful, absolutely awful, Andrea Mitchell over at MSNBC should probably go directly from her slot to McCain HQ to get her next script of talking points and Tom Brokaw was the worst I've seen him in years (not saying much but still)....

WHY IS CBS RUNNING MOSTLY RETHUGLICAN TALKING POINTS???

I was under the impression this was DEMOCRATIC convention.... AWFUL!!

"I have been amazed so far at the CBS coverage...Are they taking a feed directly from Fox??

Katy Couric has been awful, absolutely awful, Andrea Mitchell over at MSNBC should probably go directly from her slot to McCain HQ to get her next script of talking points and Tom Brokaw was the worst I've seen him in years (not saying much but still)....

WHY IS CBS RUNNING MOSTLY RETHUGLICAN TALKING POINTS???"

Answer to the last question: Becuse GOP-Viacom-CBS wants Liar McCain to be elected presidet.

Also, since BOTH Couric and GOP-GE-NBC's Mitchell are stanuch right wing Republicans themselves, along with GOP-CNN's Dana Bash and GOP-Disney-ABC's Diane Sawyer, all of might as well call themselves the press secretaries for Liar McCain and/or the Republican National Committee. 

Since Katie Couric is a right wing Republican herself (Couric is despicable Republican Bush-loving scum), she clearly did this deliberately, and GOP-Viacom-CBS, which wants Liar McCain elected, ordered her to do this, or didn't stop her from doing it on her own.

If GOP-Viacom-CBS ordered thi, they told Couric that they can't pull the old scrub & whitewash of Liar McCain's comments like they did last time.