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Media don't challenge false claim that Obama vacationed on a "private beach in Hawaii"
Summary: Several media outlets have uncritically reported the false charge by Sen. John McCain's campaign that Sen. Barack Obama "just got back from vacation on a private beach in Hawaii." In fact, according to the Hawaii Department of Land and Resources, all beaches in Hawaii are public.
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Posted by snoopy
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:17:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Science101 in reply to snoopy
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:35:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by loonz in reply to Science101
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:42:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to loonz
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 12:33:26 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by rjc in reply to Science101
I'm confused. Isn't that what conservatives claim we should all aspire to? I find it interesting that conservatives consistently deride the people who actually embody the principles conservatives claim to hold.
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:44:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jawill11 in reply to Science101
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:52:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy in reply to Science101
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 7:11:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to Science101
...$4M yearly income and a $1.6M mansion, right?
A mere pittance to the former POW, John McCain, and Cindy McCain, the wife of the former POW.
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 7:24:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by MissDee in reply to IRONY 101
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 4:01:25 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to MissDee
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 4:11:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to MissDee
You use the "Former POW" phrase to an extreme on here, in most of what you post lately
I beg to differ...I am simply following the example of the former POW, John McCain, who believes there is no such thing as pointing out his former POW status too often. But, of course, as a former POW John McCain doesn't like to talk about it. He just likes pandering for votes, my friend...
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 7:59:47 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by my4cents1172 in reply to Science101
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 9:39:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by SFnomad in reply to my4cents1172
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 9:50:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde in reply to Science101
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 10:32:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by MissDee in reply to BottleBlonde
if he made it, it's income. I can see why dems can claim a tax cut to the people they want to tax to death with that logic.
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 4:02:50 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst in reply to MissDee
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 7:11:08 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS in reply to snoopy
But Johnnie Mac is a POW, so I guess you could say he deserves his status.
*nudge*
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:36:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fjones717293
"Does a guy who made more than $4 million last year and bought his $1 million mansion with the help of a convicted felon really want to get into a debate about houses?"
Answer: "Yes"
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:34:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by zamfir273114
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:36:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by zamfir273114 in reply to zamfir273114
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 6:37:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy in reply to zamfir273114
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 7:16:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by MissDee in reply to snoopy
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 4:04:17 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels in reply to MissDee
Can't have a former and a present jackass like maybe, you!!! I am the POW around here and I will follow that other POW John McCain and introduce my POW status everytime someone proves I am wrong.
Will you agree that a yearly salary means you get that ever year? Can't say it any slower. And really, if he did make 4 mil a year, why would he take this cut in pay? Ego or dedication to his country?
To stay on topic, Rush said that he was on a private beach marked "Blacks Only"......I lied..but Rush may have thought that.
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 1:24:24 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by snoopy in reply to MissDee
Perhaps you should take your complaint up with the former POW John McCain who is running for president as a former POW. In fact, John McCain, the former POW, has not only used his status as a former POW to excuse every single infidelity, campaign gaffe and outright lie as being excuseable because he's a former POW, he's used his status as a former POW to spend his etire inside the beltway career running as a former POW. But what did you expect from a self serving egotist who's entire career can be summed up by the excuse that he's a former POW? So Dee, if you don't like hearing over and over that McCain, the former POW uses the label "former POW" like it's crack in a candy store, I suggest you call the former POW's office and tell McCain, the former POW, to stop abusing his status as a former POW for political cover-up. Because being a former POW has nothing to do with his shady life, poor memory and highly suspect lobbying for the country of Georgia.
Posted Sunday August 24, 2008 3:42:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by IRONY 101
As a former prisoner of war John McCain favors air strikes on the "private" beach where Barack Obama and his family were vacationing. McCain, the former POW, was quoted as saying that Obama "should stay in America next time and not go vacationing in some foreign country."
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 7:21:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jawill11 in reply to IRONY 101
Even though he vacationed in a foreign country once......FOR FIVE AND A HALF YEARS!
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 9:51:46 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst
most areas have the same rules. the high tide mark is public access. above the mark is private, unless it's public property. but the question is so what? if you go to a hotel on the beach, that's a "private beach". this is a pretty weak argument by the mccain camp. nitpicking at it's height.
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 9:48:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Buzzramjet
I talked to a friend of mine who lives in Manoa Valley and he said Obama presented NO problems wherever he went. When he went body surfing at Sandy Beach (I've been there and it's the best) no one was prevented from body surfing with him. Granted they were very carefully watched by Roger said he was more than welcome back anytime.
The locals love him.
BY the way what is with this four mil A YEAR income? I was under the impression that was just for the last year due to book sales NOT sucking off of his wife's alcohol money.
I guess IF the 527's REALLY wanted to get nasty they could go after the beer dealership and how many people have died as a result of her family's death merchant status selling alcohol which causes fatal accidents and overdoses?
IF they really wanted to show how low they could go.
But claiming they are attacking Cindy because John is just...what...a gigolo?
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 10:38:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by peebs755
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 10:38:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by peebs755
Posted Friday August 22, 2008 10:41:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to peebs755
I think I mentioned this already in a post here, but the McCain camp's response to Obama's ad about Grampy not knowing how many houses he had was hilarious.They lashed out with the Hawaiian vacation and arugala to portray Obama as the elite-ier.
I know very solid blue-collar workers who have saved up and vacationed in Hawaii. I know middle-class and working -class people who have not only ordered something with arugula in a restaurant, but have served it to me in their homes.
I don't know anybody personally who can't tell me how many homes they own. I guess I hang out with a bunch of loser super-elitists.
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 3:00:03 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by magnolialover in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders
And vacationing in Hawai'i is not exotic or elitist. Hell, I went to Hawai'i when I was in college for Spring Break. I, wasn't rich, by any stretch. But you know, I worked a crappy job, saved some money, and got to go on a nice trip. Same holds true for other folks around the country.
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 1:06:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by andrew.leo.hughes6027
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 1:52:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by deanoakwood
Great point Col!
My mom is a part-time dental hygentist and some friends and her saved up money and spent a week in Hawaii. Guess my Mom is a super elitist!
Posted Saturday August 23, 2008 11:46:01 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by catfish1968
Posted Sunday August 24, 2008 12:40:20 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels in reply to catfish1968
Posted Sunday August 24, 2008 7:27:58 AM EDT / Flag this comment