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Ignoring reported favors to lobbyists, land-swap deals, Politico's Martin and Allen uncritically quoted McCain's assertion that "[l]obbyists don't come to my office"

Summary: Politico's Mike Allen and Jonathan Martin uncritically reported Sen. John McCain's assertion during an "exclusive" interview: "Lobbyists don't come to my office. Because they know they're not going to be an earmark. They know they're not going to get a pork-barrel project. Senator Obama's gotten lots of 'em." Allen and Martin did not note that, to the contrary, lobbyists have reportedly received considerable benefits from McCain on behalf of their clients.
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Posted by dexteritas0071418

Not a winning issue for McCain.

Posted by snoopy in reply to dexteritas0071418

Heck, lobbyists are his office. In fact, one of his top advisors was a lobbyist for Georgia (the country, not the state!). His whole stand on Georgia is all lobbyist driven.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to snoopy

Well, they're not lobbyists now. I kind of consider lobbyists to be a position rather than a lifestyle or race.

Posted by snoopy in reply to dexteritas0071418

As of last count McCain has 159 lobbyists and former lobbyists on his staff.

Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to dexteritas0071418

Well, they're not lobbyists now.

Sen. John McCain's top foreign policy adviser prepped his boss for an April 17 phone call with the president of Georgia and then helped the presumptive Republican presidential nominee prepare a strong statement of support for the fledgling republic.

The day of the call, a lobbying firm partly owned by the adviser, Randy Scheunemann, signed a $200,000 contract to continue providing strategic advice to the Georgian government in Washington.

Posted by pithaughn

classic Rove politics, blatantly lie about one of your biggest weak spots.

Posted by snoopy in reply to pithaughn

Funny you say that. Here's McCain and wife blatantly lying about their meeting mother teresa to make his adoption story look better than it really is!

Posted by Science101 in reply to pithaughn

Like being a member of a church for 20 years and never hearing those controversial statements?

Posted by unitarianpatriot in reply to Science101

Dear Science. Please go back and listen to tapes of all of that minister's speeches for the past 20 years. Time them. Keep track of how much time he spent talking about Jesus, about helping the poor, about helping drug addicts, about loving your neighbor. Then keep track of how much time he spent telling the truth about the damage done by people in power. Then tote up what is truly racist. (Pointing out that the sins of the white majority were committed by white people is not racism. It is reporting. Damning those people is racist, and against what his church, heck any church, should be about.) Report back to us with the percentages. Until you do that, please don't give us any more baloney about the Rev. Wright. I think he's off base about a few things and WAY off base about a couple -- just about the exact reverse of the current administration, which has gotten a few things right and, oh, about 90 percent of what it has done disastrously, murderously wrong.

Posted by mary59 in reply to unitarianpatriot

So very well said, thanks.

Posted by NiceguyEddie in reply to pithaughn

I don't know.  Maybe THEY don't go to HIS office.  Maybe HE goes to THEIRS? ;)

Posted by wzwriter

"Lobbyists don't come to my office."

Nope.  They come to one of the many homes that Gramps mcCain doesn't know he and Cindy Lou own...

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to wzwriter

I've heard he meets them in a soiled utility room, where they draw dollar signs in the mildew.

Posted by djasper2761 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Could it be one of them is a skid mark on the depends of life?

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to wzwriter

So see, he is telling the truth ;)

 

I know, lousy attempt at humor

Posted by wzwriter in reply to DAWUSS

I know, lousy attempt at humor

That's OK - after all, Gramps McCain is a lousy excuse for a human being - a sell-out who has compromised himself in order to pander for votes.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to DAWUSS

No - a lousy attempt at humor would be:

"Bomb, bomb, bomb.  Bomb, bomb Iran!"

or

"You little punk, you're drafted!"

or

"Who was that marvelous ape?"

Posted by wzwriter in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Or calling his wife a c**t.

Posted by DAWUSS

"I think there are too many lobbyists in Washington."

 

McCain does speak the truth there.

 

And therein lies the problem. We elect people who represent lobbyists not constituents.

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to DAWUSS

That's why we're voting for Obama this time.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Who prefers the company of domestic terrorists.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to dexteritas0071418

You left off the question mark, but I'll try; Those not sophisticated enough to appreciate an imported terrorist?

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

THAT was funny.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Ha but those no question that he does prefer their company to lobbyists.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to dexteritas0071418

there's**

Posted by Kyle_Broflovski in reply to dexteritas0071418

Like, say, the lobbyists that run his campaign, and that will be running the U.S. if McCain is elected?

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

I didn't know that. Which ones blew up fed buildings? Did they do it with Ayers?

Posted by commonsenseliberal in reply to dexteritas0071418

The guys that blew up Federal buildings were right-wingers.

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to dexteritas0071418

Who Sean Hannity has a creepy fascination with

 

I think he's the only one who tries to make that an election-deciding issue.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to dexteritas0071418

Who prefers the company of domestic terrorists.

The charges against William Ayres were dropped over 30 years ago.  Since then, he has been a productive member of society.  The right side of the aisle, however, is littered with criminals and unrepenting felons, such as Ollie North, G. Gorson Liddy, Jack Abramoff, Duke Cunningham, Tom DeLay, etc.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to wzwriter

Excuse me, all those necon talking heads-aside, the charges were dropped on a prosecutor technicality, not because he didn't participate in the bombings. The good Mr. Ayers has since said he regretted not doing more bombings. Nice guy.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to dexteritas0071418

But has he bombed anything since those charges were dropped?  No.  The anti-Obama forces are beating a dead horse on this one.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to wzwriter

LOLOLOLOL

You really don't think it's a big deal? He's UNREPENTANT. If OBL quit Al Qaeda tomorrow would it be ok to be friends with him in 20 years, even if he said he regretted not blowing up more buildings?

Astounding.

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to dexteritas0071418

Dex, if Bill Ayers said he was sorry, do you think you and sean Hannity would calm down?

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

Negative ghostrider.

I'm fine with opposing Obama on the issues alone, but I just can't leave a juicy debate about which candidate's acquaintances raise more questions about the integrity of their associations.

Posted by historygeek001 in reply to dexteritas0071418

So how do you feel about McCain being part of the Keating Five?

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to historygeek001

McCain should've stuck with his gut and not gone to any meetings about the failed bank, but he was completely cleared of any wrongdoing, unlike some of his other democrat associates. Certainly no one died.

McCain is a politician and has made errors in judgement and is beholden to some special interests. I don't deny that; I just think it's astounding how so many Obama apologists on here look the other way on his associations.

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to dexteritas0071418

So because no one died it's totally OK.

Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to dexteritas0071418

McCain should've stuck with his gut and not gone to any meetings about the failed bank, but he was completely cleared of any wrongdoing, unlike some of his other democrat associates. Certainly no one died.

Completely cleared?

While it's true, McCain only received only a mild rebuke from the Ethics Committee for exercising "poor judgment" for intervening with the federal regulators on behalf of Keating, he was in no way, "completely cleared".

"No one died" Why does that sound familiar.... Oh because that's the pathetic excuse given by those in the Enron scandal...."No one died".

The Keating scandal cost elderly investors their life saving. The Keating scandal cost taxpayers 3.4 BILLION dollars.

Keating poured $112,000 into McCain's political campaigns. Keating threw fund raisers in McCain's honor. McCain in turn, made at least 9 trips on Keating's airplanes, and 3 of those were to Keating's luxurious retreat in the Bahamas. McCain's wife and father-in-law also were the largest investors (at $350,000) in a Keating shopping center. 

So McCain gets a slap on the wrist because the little weasel leaked to the media "sensitive information" about certain closed proceedings in order to hurt DeConcini, Riegle and Cranston (Congressional investigator, Clark B. Hall, as personally concluding that "McCain was one of the principal leakers). McCain, under oath, had denied involvement with the leaks.

"No one died" doesn't change McCain's dishonorable actions or the people he hurt. 

Posted by mary59 in reply to pearlene_scott1602

Gee Pearlene, wonder why the neos don't want to reply to your posting? ;-)

Posted by snoopy in reply to dexteritas0071418

Dex, why waste time talking about the integrity of possible associates when McCain and his wife both have huge integrity issues? McCain was engaged in several extramarital affairs, yet the right ignores it. He and his wife are lying about their adopted child, making up stories that never happened to make it look better, not a peep from the right. Cindy had a drug problem, nothing. She claims she's an only child, you'd think the right would be up in arms on that one, but nothing. That couple has integrity issues that could make a cockroach look like a priest.

Posted by mary59 in reply to snoopy

All those lies seem so strange...Her kicking a drug habit is actually admireable. And adopting a child is also admirable. So why do they have to lie about the circumstances??! Embellishing the adoption story is so odd.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to dexteritas0071418

The only thing that's astounding it that people like you think thi is a big deal.  This just proves to me that McCain has nothing to offer and the righties are running scared.

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to wzwriter

One day I hope to read a study that shows exactly how such a radical lib mind as yours can get worked up about a real estate investor not knowing offhand how many properties he owns, but doesnt care about being friends and raising money with a guy who thinks its OK to blow people up.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to dexteritas0071418

Oh, I'm not a radical lib - in fact, I'm a left-of-center moderate.  I'd be MORE interested in why someone such as yourself gets so involved in minutia like Obama's relationship with William Ayres that has NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO with his ability to lead this nation.

Posted by peebs755 in reply to dexteritas0071418

Obama wasn't "friends" with Ayers. They sat on the same committee. Thats it. If you go to your child PTA meeting, and one of the parents there turns out to have done criminal deeds thirty years ago, that doesn't make you a criminal just because you went to a few meetings together.

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to dexteritas0071418

But why were the charges dropped?  What was the technicality to which you referred?

Posted by wzwriter in reply to dexteritas0071418

LOLOLOLOL

You really don't think it's a big deal? He's UNREPENTANT. If OBL quit Al Qaeda tomorrow would it be ok to be friends with him in 20 years, even if he said he regretted not blowing up more buildings?

Astounding.

Dex, Dex, Dex......

If you had bothered READING more about William Ayres and the Weatheremen, you would have learned that their bombings were designed to make statements are that took steps to make sure no one was harmed.  In fact, the only people ever killed by a Weathermen bomb were three of their own members who died when a bom exploded prematurely.  From Wikipedia:

Apart from an apparently accidental premature detonation of a bomb in the Greenwich Village townhouse explosion which claimed the lives of three of their own members, no one was ever harmed in their extensive bombing campaign, as they were always careful to issue warnings in advance to ensure a safe evacuation of the area prior to detonation. Nevertheless, their activities have often been characterized as domestic terror, including a later description by the FBI.

Also included with the evacuation warnings issued in their communiqués were statements indicating the particular event to which they were responding. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a statement saying it was "in protest of the US invasion of Laos." For the bombing of The Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the US bombing raid in Hanoi." For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the Harry S Truman Building housing the United States Department of State, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)

Now - will you admit that this whole William Ayres angle is a DEAD ISSUE and let us get back to the SUBJECT AT HAND?????

Posted by anotheramerican in reply to wzwriter

wz,

We don't know if some of those bombings during that time that did kill people were in fact weathermen bombings.  If I recall correctly, there was at least one in San Francisco that killed someone. 

I do believe Ayers and Dohrn would not be inclined to bring that up.

And I noticed you didn't mention the bomb that killed Ayers fiance was intended to kill soldiers and civilians while they attended a dance. 

the fact that Ayers wished he could have bombed more, says alot about him and Obama since Obama fostered their relationship and started his political campaign in Ayers and Dohrn's home.

What would you think if McCain started his political career in Timothy McVeigh's home?  Would that be a non-issue?  

Posted by wzwriter in reply to anotheramerican

AA -

The bottom line is that regardless of what happened nearly 40 years ago, William Ayres is not planting bombs today.  When he said he regretted not doing more, he meant that in the context of wishing they could have done more to end our involvment in Vietnam sooner. 

I don't know how old you are, AA, but I'm 55.  I lived through the Vietnam Era, and took part in many war protests myself while I was in high school.  This is a far different country than it was in 1968, and those of us who lived through it were affected forever by our country's involvment in Vietnam.

Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to anotheramerican

Rabbi Arnold Jacob Wolf knew Ayers in the 1960s and re-met Ayers and Dohrn decades later. In the 1960s Wolf said he and Ayers were on opposite sides of the use of violence to effect social change. Then, Ayers thought it useful. Wolf came out of the school of nonviolence.

Wolf now is rabbi emeritus at KAM Isaiah Israel, coincidentally located across the street from the Obamas' Kenwood home. (The synagogue welcomes Obama's Secret Service agents inside to use the facilities.)

Ayers is "wonderful, compassionate, thoughtful, serious," Wolf said. I asked him to help reconcile the past and the present. "What we want is not to let bygones be bygones, but to transform ourselves into the kind of people we want to be and ought to be," Wolf said.

Posted by foghornleghorn in reply to anotheramerican

Yet again, AA, I must remind you that nobody, and I mean NOBODY except you and maybe Hannity, give a hoot about Ayers.  No one remembers what he did or didn't do, and nobody cares.  Got it?  Good.

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to dexteritas0071418

What was the technicality?

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to Pyrrhonist

Prosecutorial misconduct. I don't know details; I guess that could span everything from improperly questioning someone to whipping it out and laying it on the table while in court.

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to dexteritas0071418

OK, but don't you think you should know that?  Isn't it rather important to your argument that he's an unrepentant terrorist, since he wasn't convicted?  I would be interested to know specifically why there was no conviction. The misconduct would've had to be pretty egregious to crater the prosecution of a person accused of plotting to blow up buildings.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to Pyrrhonist

Apparantly, the technicality sprung from COINTELPRO, a series of covert and a few illegal projects being run by the FBI.  From Wikipedia:

* * * * * * * * * *

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert and often illegal projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception; however the formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971. The FBI motivation at the time was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order." Targets included groups suspected of being subversive, such as communist and socialist organizations; people suspected of building a "coalition of militant black nationalist groups" ranging from the Black Panther Party and Republic of New Afrika, to "those in the non-violent civil rights movement," such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the Congress on Racial Equality (CORE), and other civil rights groups; "White Hate Groups" including the Ku Klux Klan and National States' Rights Party; a broad range of organizations lumped together under the title "New Left" groups, including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those "Seeking Independence for Puerto Rico." The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders.

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Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to wzwriter

Thanks, WZ.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to Pyrrhonist

No problem.

I was in high school during the Vitenam War protests.  My late mother was sure that teh FBI had a file on me, too.  I'm pretty sure they don't seeing as I got a security clearance a few years ago with no difficulty.....

Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to dexteritas0071418

the charges were dropped on a prosecutor technicality, not because he didn't participate in the bombings. The good Mr. Ayers has since said he regretted not doing more bombings. Nice guy.

This "prosecutor technicality" sure seems familiar......I know why, because that's exactly what Junior and the Republicans are doing now! And guess what?....They have the exact same reasons....protecting Americans.

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert and often illegal projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception; however the formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971.[2] The FBI motivation at the time was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order." Targets included groups suspected of being subversive, such as communist and socialist organizations; people suspected of building a "coalition of militant black nationalist groups" ranging from the Black Panther Party and Republic of New Afrika, to "those in the non-violent civil rights movement," such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), the Congress on Racial Equality (CORE), and other civil rights groups; "White Hate Groups" including the Ku Klux Klan and National States' Rights Party; a broad range of organizations lumped together under the title "New Left" groups, including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those "Seeking Independence for Puerto Rico."[3] The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders.[4][5]

No one excuses Ayers for what he did "in his youth" and while Obama was 8 years old, but what someone did 40 years ago should not damn that person forever!

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to pearlene_scott1602

Illegal surveillance in violation of the Constitution. Calling that a technicality is disingenuous at best.

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to dexteritas0071418

When did Ayers say he regretted not doing more bombings?

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Pyrrhonist

According to Sean Hannity some NYT article. I think he can recite the entire article verbatim without looking.

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to DAWUSS

OK - NYT in 2001, in an article about his memoirs.  He did say that, and some other stupid things. Thanks DW.

Posted by wzwriter in reply to Pyrrhonist

When did Ayers say he regretted not doing more bombings?

From Wikipedia.  After you read this, ask yourself if these sound like the words of a person who should be placed in the same category as Osame bin Laden, as Dex has attempted to do:

In the months before Ayers' memoir was published on September 10, 2001, the author gave numerous interviews with newspaper and magazine writers in which he defended his overall history of radical words and actions. Some of the resulting articles were written just before the September 11 terrorist attacks and appeared immediately after, including one often-noted article in The New York Times, and another in the Chicago Tribune. Numerous observations were made in the media comparing the statements Ayers was making about his own past just as a dramatic new terrorist incident shocked the public.

"We weren't terrorists," Ayers told an interviewer for the Chicago Tribune in 2001. "The reason we weren't terrorists is because we did not commit random acts of terror against people. Terrorism was what was being practiced in the countryside of Vietnam by the United States."

Todd Gitlin, a former SDS member and author of "The Sixties: Years of Hope, Days of Rage," harshly criticizes Ayers and other members of Weatherman for wanting to kill, even if they didn't. Gitlin said in 2001 that the only reason no one was murdered was because the first known attempt resulted in members of the group blowing themselves up instead: "OK, let's give them a medal for not killing anybody besides themselves. But they wanted to be terrorists. They planned on being terrorists. Then their bomb blew up and killed several of them and they thought better of it. They were failed terrorists."

Much of the controversy about Ayers during the decade since the year 2000 stems from an interview he gave to the New York Times on the occasion of the memoir's publication. The reporter quoted him as saying "I don't regret setting bombs" and "I feel we didn't do enough", and, when asked if he would "do it all again" as saying "I don't want to discount the possibility." Ayers has not denied the quotes, but he protested the interviewer's characterizations in a Letter to the Editor published September 15, 2001: "This is not a question of being misunderstood or 'taken out of context', but of deliberate distortion." In the ensuing years, Ayers has repeatedly avowed that when he said he had "no regrets" and that "we didn't do enough" he was speaking only in reference to his efforts to stop the United States from waging the Vietnam War, efforts which he has described as ". . . inadequate [as] the war dragged on for a decade." Ayers has maintained that the two statements were not intended to imply a wish they had set more bombs. The interviewer also quoted some of Ayers' own criticism of Weatherman in the foreword to the memoir, whereby Ayers reacts to having watched Emile de Antonio's 1976 documentary film about Weatherman, Underground: "[Ayers] was 'embarrassed by the arrogance, the solipsism, the absolute certainty that we and we alone knew the way. The rigidity and the narcissism.' "

"I condemn all forms of terrorism--individual, group and official," Ayers wrote in a letter to the editor in the Chicago Tribune. He also condemned the September 11 terrorist attacks in that letter. "Today we are witnessing crimes against humanity on our own shores on an unthinkable scale, and I fear that we may soon see more innocent people in other parts of the world dying in response."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to wzwriter

Small beer, as terrorists go. 

Posted by DAWUSS in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Obama is one man. Congress is over 500 people.

Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to DAWUSS

And a golf course has eighteen holes.

It's precisely as relevant as your "point."

Posted by hogprint in reply to Kyle_Broflovski

Yeah, Barry Soetorro Obonga doesn't slurp from the trough of lobbyists?  

Notice how he "hides" his reporting...

Obama's lobbyist slight of hand

More

And we haven't even gone into the fourteen bundlers...

Posted by mk3872

thank you again, Media Matters ... I was going to send you this link from Politico today. The amateurs at Politico are making a living by buddying-up to BBQ-4-media McCain. They challenged NOTHING during his interview and put no research into the article surrounding the erroneos quoted statements from McCain.

This was not journalism. This was McCain playing to his base: the media.

Posted by sambo

 Sounds like several posters on here are attempting English

Posted by wzwriter in reply to sambo

And ailing miserably.  They mush have been home-schooled by dittoheads.....

Posted by hogprint in reply to wzwriter

WZ posted:

They mush have been home-schooled by dittoheads.....

 

You MUSH {sic} have been schooled at a left leaning public school!

Posted by wzwriter in reply to hogprint

Two things, Hogbreath:

1 - MMFA does not have edit or spel-check capabilities.

2 - I'm disabled, after three motor vehicle accidents left me with four herniated discs and nerve damage in both arms.  It's a miracle I can type as well as I do.....

Posted by hogprint in reply to wzwriter

I'm well aware of the limitations of this forum WZ, so that's why I proof read my posts. If a nasty slips by, I'll correct it by posting a correction.  Relax man, I put an (!) to show it was tongue in cheek...I forgot libs have NO sense of humor, just ask Ens. Sanders. 

Sorry about your accidents, but that doesn't relieve you from saying something stupid or supporting the unsupportable.

WX underground and Dohrn's support of racist Charles Manson

Dohrn is Ayers wife and terrorist partner in case you haven't read your own links.

 

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to hogprint

Aw, are you still mad at me, Hog? I have a pretty decent sense of humor, I was only making fun of your right wing cartoons because they're not funny. Not offensive, they don't bother me, they're just not funny to me.I like humor base in reality

But everybody's sense of humor is different. Apparently exclamation points mean tongue-in-cheek to you.To most normal people, they convey excitement or anger.

Posted by hogprint in reply to Col. Harlan Sanders

OK, have it your way Ens. Sanders.  I guess I'm mush educated by dittoheads, according to WZ!  Whoops I did it again...

Posted by Col. Harlan Sanders in reply to hogprint

Emperor Sanders ! I like that very mush!

Posted by wzwriter in reply to hogprint

Front Page is not a valid source of information, because it is connected to known liar David Horowitz.

Posted by hogprint in reply to wzwriter

Yeah, but the article he cites was a NYTimes article.

"All the news fit to print"...right?  

Posted by mgarnett251924

Tomorrow is going to be fun here on MMA with you lefties trying to point out how many homes McCain has...

You will forget Kerry's homes, Al Gore's, Carters and even my-baby-daddy Edwards...

But i will bet money that there will be NO discussion of how BHO's step brother lives on about 1 dollar a month in a horrid hut... Where is compasionate brother BHO to give him a hand?

Facts are facts, this poor child has been interviewed, gonna be hard to ignore that Mc Cain has an adopted child of race, but BHO will not help hiw own step brother....

Sad

Posted by snoopy in reply to mgarnett251924

Are those people running for president? No? Then no need to discuss it. McCain can't even remember how many homes he had, and if you want to talk relations, let's discuss Cindy claiming she's an only child. She's got two sisters, one got $10,000 from daddy's demise, the other nothing and Cindy publicly denies their existance. She's juat a self centered liar and that's what you want in a first lady. Unbelievable.

Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to mgarnett251924

You will forget Kerry's homes, Al Gore's, Carters and even my-baby-daddy Edwards...

You're damn right I'm going to forget. THEY'RE NOT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT!!  5 MILLION DOLLAR MCCAIN IS !!!!!!!

But i will bet money that there will be NO discussion of how BHO's step brother lives on about 1 dollar a month in a horrid hut... Where is compasionate brother BHO to give him a hand?

Next time, do a little research you little weasel!

Western Kenya and Illinois share a landscape of gentle hills and an economy built on family farms. But Kenya has few roads, railways and airports and nothing like the city of Chicago. And that's just fine for Malik Obama, the older half-brother of Barack Obama, the Illinois Democrat running for U.S. Senate.

"An African doesn't need too much to go on," he said.

While Barack may soon be heading to Washington, Malik, a 46-year-old Kenyan, has chosen to make his life in Nyangoma-Kogelo, a village of several hundred that is the Obama ancestral home.

Still, Malik Obama prefers the village to the fast-paced capital, Nairobi, where he grew up. He runs an electronics shop in a town a half-hour drive away, and works as a consultant in Washington for a few months each year.

It was in the United States, in 1985, that he first met his 43-year-old half-brother Barack.

"He was best man at my wedding and I was best man at his," said Malik, who likes to point out that his younger brother's name is actually Barack Obama II, because their father was the original Barack Obama.

Barack grew up in Hawaii with his American mother after his parents divorced. He has visited Kenya three times, most recently in the early 1990s to introduce his fiancee to his Kenyan family.

When pressed for more details about the family, Malik said, "As far as I'm concerned, we are one family."

Facts are facts, this poor child has been interviewed, gonna be hard to ignore that Mc Cain has an adopted child of race, but BHO will not help hiw own step brother....

Happy days!!!! Look, look McCain adopted a "dark child". Happy days!!!!!!

Posted by congero6189599

The fact of the matter is that McCain has over 160 lobbyist working on his campaign.  This man will do and say whatever he needs to in order to get elected, country first my ass.  Here is some more "straight" talk from McSame :

“Whenever there’s a corrupt system, then you’re going to have these birds of prey descend on it to get their share of the spoils. … Lobbyists don’t come to my office. Because they know they’re not going to be an earmark. They know they’re not going to get a pork-barrel project. […]

“But the fact is that they are the symptom of a disease,” he continued. “As long as you have earmarking and pork-barrel spending and bridges to nowhere and money for DNA of bears in Montana and museums and all that, then you’re going to have lobbyists.”

But the “disease” has infected McCain’s campaign. While McCain claims “there are too many lobbyists,” he has at least 159 lobbyists — on leaves of absences — running his campaign, fundraising, and shaping his policies. McCain has praised their work repeatedly, specifically their closeness to him:

“Having worked in Washington for so long, I can claim with gratitude a good number of lobbyists as friends and supporters, many of whom supported my presidential campaign.” [Worth the Fighting For]

Lobbying is an honorable profession. I have no problem with it. I have no problem with people working in order to bring the people’s interests and agenda and priorities to the attention of Congress. Almost all of us who I know of rely on their input on various issues. Many supply us with policy papers, with data, et cetera.” [Congressional Record, 12/16/05]

Posted by mgarnett251924 in reply to congero6189599

At least he does not have a Step Brother starving on one dollar a month living in a hut...

Poor multi millionaire BHO, no help for his own...

Posted by dexteritas0071418 in reply to mgarnett251924

You already used that one, you have to find something else.

Yeah,

I'm sure she has plenty of other lies swimming in her head.

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to mgarnett251924

How do you know that guy is not happy as a clam on his dollar a day? Do you have the same sympathy for Cindy McCain's half-sister?  Because that woman is unhappy. At least Obama claims his half-sibling.

Posted by snoopy in reply to mgarnett251924

Yeah, he should be more like McCain and lie about his adopted kid, or Cindy and publically deny she has any sisters.

Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to mgarnett251924

At least he does not have a Step Brother starving on one dollar a month living in a hut...

G O O G L E  Obama's brother and you'll see: Obama's Brother Chooses Life in Slow Lane http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6333496

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to pearlene_scott1602

Thanks for that link, Pearline.

Posted by Pyrrhonist in reply to Pyrrhonist

Pearlene, I meant.  Sorry.

Posted by hogprint in reply to congero6189599

Let's look at some more Obonga lobbyists:

Oil & Gas industry-$1.3mil

Insurance- $1.1mil

Banking interests- $1.9 mil

Teachers unions/Education- $8.8 million

Lawyers/law firms-21 million

Securities & Investment-$9 million

Hedge funds/private equity firms-$652k

I'm sorry but Obonga's up to 262 bundlers now from 14. 

Lefty site ratting Obonga out

Alternet gotcha

Updated Opensecrets

 

Posted by snoopy in reply to hogprint

I don't see anywhere in your links where it says he has 200+ bundlers, but hey, why don't we look at the 159 lobbyists who work on McCain's staff? Throw in the lobbyists he meets with and all the bundlers he has and what you have is a hipocritical lie so big it would make a cockroach blush!

Posted by hogprint in reply to snoopy

Down snoopy, quit humping my leg!  :)

It's in there somewhere, I'm to lazy to find it, so I found you another link.  It's worse than we thought! 

Obonga's 300 bundlers!

 

Posted by snoopy in reply to hogprint

Do Obama's bundlers engage in ethically questionable or illegal activities like Diaper John's?

http://www.propublica.org/article/mccain-bundlers-donors-raise-eyebrows-806/

http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Justice_Department_Asked_To_Investigate_McCain_Bundlers_2

Ouch! Turns out Mr. Innocuous takes in more money from bundlers than Obama!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-15-bundlers_N.htm

Yup, that's pretty hipocritical for someone who co-sponsored a 2002 law curbing special interests to be relying mainly on special interest groups, dontcha think?

BTW, that wasn't leg humping I was doing... ;)

Posted by hogprint in reply to snoopy

Red Baron Bait...

Did you even read your link?  Better check that third one again, because it's not so flattering  for Obonga.  

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 Morethan 500 top McCain fundraisers brought in at least $75.6 million...

...Obama, who also counts more than 500 people among his main fundraising corps, has collected at least $50.1 million through them

 

 Obama doesn't provide details about bundlers who raise more than $500,000, "he may appear to be less reliant on these bundlers because he's less transparent about his numbers," Krumholz said. "It's highly likely he will have a signficantly higher percentage of mBecauseoney from bundlers, if and when he matches McCain's disclosures."

 

So it looks like Obonga has to release his numbers then it will be a fair comparison.  I guess the argument comes down to, do  your bundlers suck more than my bundlers!   

Posted by congero6189599

I'am sorry the narratives from those quotes was taken from the "Think Progress" website.

Posted by congero6189599

Here's McInsane trying to explain how many homes he has :

Exactly how many homes does McCain own?

Posted August 21st, 2008 at 1:45 pm

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We know that John McCain owns so many homes, he’s lost track of the exact number. But as long as it’s the topic du jour, maybe we should go ahead and answer the question McCain is struggling with — how many homes does McCain own?

The McCain campaign conceded that the senator owns “at least four.” The new Obama ad puts the number at “seven.” There’s one estimate that points to 10 homes, and I saw one count that pegs it at 13 properties.

Yglesias noted, “I’ve seen a lot of liberals giving John McCain a hard time about not knowing how many homes he owns. But this is a genuinely difficult question to answer!”

It actually is tricky. First, McCain owns a lot of homes. Second, he owns a lot of properties with multiples homes on the properties. And third, in a couple of instances, McCain has bought two homes, only to start tearing down walls to create super-duper homes. (Do we count the $700,000 condo McCain bought for his daughter as a graduation present? Decisions, decisions.)

The estimable Jed Lewison put together a very helpful Google Earth tour that helps sort through the presumptive Republican nominee’s extensive portfolio.

 

I’d just add that the McCain campaign’s odd “arugula”-based response chastises Obama for having made “$4 million last year.”

Maybe the McCain gang can clarify — doesn’t that make Obama, by McCain’s standards, middle class?

Post Script: Alas, there is no video of McCain struggling with the question, but there is an audio file. I’m expecting some clever audiophile to have a remix available in 5…4…3…

Posted by snoopy in reply to congero6189599

McCain's excuse for not knowing how many homes: "as a former POW..."

Posted by congero6189599

Sorry again that one came from :carpetbaggers.com

This seems like a good time for 8 Homes to weigh in...

I am delighted that Barack Obama has immediately released a commercial which reminds voters of Sen. George McCain's home ownership orgy.

Too bad he didn't also mention Sen. George McCain's $500 shoes.  Also, when asked by Rev. Warren how much does one need to make to be rich, Sen. George McCain said $5 million.

So, I guess $2 million is middle class in the elite world of George McCain?  Ordinary Amercans are just pawns in the elitist world of Sen. George McCain.

Posted by robotchubby

McCain's claim he doesn't bend to lobbyists sounds like a typical President* Bush Administration dodge.  If you don't call it what it is, it isn't.

"We don't view it as torture so it isn't torture."

"We don't see if as a government bailout, so it isn't a government bailout."

"We don't see it as a timetable for withdraw, so it isn't a timetable for withdraw."