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Wash. Post ombudsman admonishes Milbank for using anonymous source, imputing meaning to secondhand quote
Summary: Responding to reader complaints about The Washington Post's Dana Milbank's use of an "anonymous secondhand quotation from Sen. Barack Obama," Post ombudsman Deborah Howell chastised Milbank for citing the source anonymously and for imputing a particular interpretation to a quote he did not witness. Howell found that "[n]either [Jonathan] Weisman nor Milbank called the source" to confirm their interpretation of the quote.
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Posted by mary59
Then Milbank takes someone else's second-hand interpretation of the remark to mean that Obama is being self-aggrandizing, or the opposite of what was intended. When confronted with this, Milbank whines that people are whining about his fraudulent reasoning. Okay then, he gets paid to do this?!
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 5:06:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to mary59
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 5:14:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mary59 in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts
I've heard this argument used many a time by people who don't ever want to do anything and won't make the slightest effort to even try.
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 5:27:19 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DAWUSS
Finally someone gets called out over the "anonymous source"...
How come only Milbank gets slammed for calling out the Obamessiah for acting like he's God's Gift to America?
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 6:07:07 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst in reply to DAWUSS
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 7:23:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skipp2989 in reply to DAWUSS
The "Obamessiah" got old really fast.
When people like Mr. Milbank give you out of context non-quotes you eat it up like candy and think that it supports your false view of Mr. Obama.
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 7:31:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Billy Hill in reply to skipp2989
Posted Monday August 11, 2008 5:26:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by antoniusone5151 in reply to DAWUSS
Perhaps because he was likes a tiger who changed his stripes when he wrote that column. Over the last few months, I've usually found Dana to be pretty even-handed regarding both candidates as well as fair in his assessments, but he crossed a line on July 30 by not checking his and Johnathan's source(s). He then compounded the error by saying those who criticized him were "whiners".
Well, too bad Dana! When we buy the Washington Post, like it or not, we're contributing to his salary, and if he calls us whiners for criticizing something that was proven false by multiple sources, he should apologize, or at the least, correct the record. But NOOO, Dana's ego wouldn't allow him to do that. He even left the Olbermann show "Countdown", rather than admit he made a mistake.
Many readers of that newspaper will have a difficult time believing much of anything he writes going forward. As for me, I won't waste my time reading his column, nor am I the least bit interested in what he has to say now that he's gone over to CNN.
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 7:53:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935 in reply to DAWUSS
How come only Milbank gets slammed for calling out the Obamessiah for acting like he's God's Gift to America?
He's not getting slammed. He's getting a promotion and a raise.
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 9:04:10 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by ukobserver in reply to DAWUSS
African American running for POTUS: I am NOT the Messiah!
Right wing stooge & weatherman on Murdoch morning cable show: I say you are Lord, and I should know. I've followed a few.
African American running for POTUS: I'm not the Messiah! Will you please listen? I am not the Messiah, do you understand? Honestly!
Blonde air-headed right wing news model : Only the true Messiah denies His divinity.
African American running for POTUS: What? Well, what sort of chance does that give me? All right! I am the Messiah!
Moronic viewers of Murdoch morning cable show who believe everything right wingers tell them: He is! He is the Messiah!
African American running for POTUS: Now, fcuk off!
[silence]
Right wing stooge & weatherman on Murdoch morning cable show: How shall we fcuk off, O Lord?
Posted Monday August 11, 2008 5:21:56 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by socal7425
Sometimes complaining about a statement being out of context is just a way to avoid blame. But when the full context gives the quote an entirely different meaning then it is the equivalent of a lie. When you choose to call those who see through your error "whiners" then it is just a sign of your own hubris or you might even call it "presumptuousness".
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 6:07:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by BottleBlonde
Keith Olbermann found Dana Milbank's behavior so offensive that he was banned from appearing on his show until he corrected his behavior. Milbank never did, and instead is now a political commentator for CNN.
I found another thing interesting from the ombudsman's column. She said that she knew who the anonymous source was, and she confirmed that for herself. I thought it was interesting that however that info came to Milbank, that was enough info for her to identify the source. I wonder why that was? Is there a serial email anonymous source in power in the Democratic Party? If so, who is it? Biden, Durbin, Hillary Clinton? Is there someone in the party who's such a serial leaker that they are well-known and assumed to be the source of stories like this? Again, just interesting.
If the source is this well-known and accessible that Howell can figure it out and verify that he was the source, then why didn't Milbank call him to make sure his interpretation was correct when he was told that Senate aides were disputing his assigned meaning? That's the big issue for me - he went after the people criticizing his behavior instead of trying to get the answer! He attacked the messengers because of the message they were trying to get to him.
Posted Sunday August 10, 2008 9:15:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by dusteemusic in reply to BottleBlonde
Posted Monday August 11, 2008 2:11:51 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by ac76 in reply to dusteemusic
Olbermann made a brief mention of it a few days after the initial column, trying not to be too critical yet making his point crystal clear.
He mentioned the column and the contextual errors, and said that he and his program refused to have Milbank on until he retracted his statements. Instead, Milbank resigned from the show, saying that he had accepted an offer from another network.
Olbermann wished him the best and simply moved on. Clearly he was disappointed by the whole episode.
Posted Monday August 11, 2008 3:13:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
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