Well, I could be wrong, but I believe "Lost Bearings" is an old, old wooden ship that was used during the Civil War era.

It just doesn't stop, does it? If they aren't accusing him of saying McCain is too old (which he is) there's the damn "terrorist fist bump" or the crap about how he's "different" from us (and I disagree with Jeter about the "meaning". I have yet to hear a black conservative suggest it just means different).

Huh?

Snoop what are you talking about?

I was reading your response in the buchannon thread where you thought exotic didn't mean black.

Actually you said un-american or foreign. I think he was going for "different".

Snoopy, Jeter has just lost his bearings. He's old ya know :-0)

Yeah, take it easy on him.

Wow, he's so old, he's not even there.

Do you keep getting asked to sign up for msn.net whenever you right click and say show picture? Is the Col. secretly inviting us to the inner circle?

I can see it just fine. Do pictures not show up for you, Esnoop?

I'm having te same trouble as Snoop. Exactly.

Oh darlin Julia I ain't that old.

Like my buddy Toby Keith sings:

 

I ain't as good as I once was

I got a few years on me now

But there was a time, back in my prime

When I could really lay it down

Then I might have just enough

I ain't as good as I once was

But I'm as good once as I ever was ;-)

Jeter, my sweet, you're still laying it down pretty well. The BS that is :-0) (see the smiley face). I just couldn't resist needling you on that "losing his bearings" argument that you lost but thought you'd won. But now you know better, or should :-0) See smiley face again.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Julia my darlin,

Of course when one says someone is "losing their bearings" it doesn't necessarily mean he's "old" & losing it. BUT we know how certain "code" words/remarks works in politics. I still think Obama was giving McCain a dig about his age. You of course can believe otherwise. I still think I'm correct...but you know that ;-)

God you're stubborn ya handsome bastid. And still incorrect. But reach for the stars with those fantasical dreams about being right on this one. Sheesh! :-)

Well my sweet Julia me thinks you're being a tad stubborn yourself ;-)

Bottom line: neither of us can say with absolute certainty what Obama may or may not have meant. Just because he or his surrogates are claiming he wasn't giving a "dig" about McCain's age doesn't mean they aren't fibbing. Do you believe everything a politician tells you? Do you really believe they'd come out & admit it? I think it was a veiled "dig" about an older man. You don't. Let's just leave it as we both have analyzed this differently.

Good night darlin :-)

Word comprehension has nothing to do with if I beleive a politician is lying to me or not. Perhaps you have become too cynical about word useage since the Bush admin. and their cronies have made word meanings irrevelant. In context, Obama's meaning is very clear.

Oh, and don't let vanity preclude you from stating your age. I already know you're probably old enough to be my daddy :-0).....:-0)

Oh, and don't let vanity preclude you from stating your age. I already know you're probably old enough to be my daddy :-0).....:-

Ouch!

Well let me put it this way Julia [I'll hold off the darlin sweetie stuff for now] IF you're under 30 I could very well be old enough to be your Daddy since my oldest son [I have 3] will be turning 27 in July & my daughter-in-law just turned 26...

Granted I married young [right out of college] & became a father at an early age, but if you're under 30 I'm gonna have to end our um... sexy cyber flirting. It's just too icky for me to think about. Sorry :-/

I'm guessing you are about 55. You are probably just old enough to be my teenage babysitter :-0) Anyway, since I've been married for 17 years, it's not likely that I'm under 30. 

But since you've threatened me with no flirting I'll back off requests for your age :-0)

Okay, upon rereading, you might be closer to maybe 51 or 52? But I'll still back off. You aren't THAT much older than me. 

I have to admit, I was trying to trick you into revealing the number. I guess you didn't see all the smiley faces. It worked to a degree.

Hey sweet Julia :-)

No need to back off...that was ONLY if you were under 30. It just would have been toooooo weird :-O

I'll be 53 on my next birthday. Do you remember the date?

This is a test of our cyber bond ;-)

October 10th my sweet. Do you remember mine my libidinous Libran pal?

 

Close but no cigar...Try again.

Of course this now gives me the excuse to blow it too--but I have a good reason-- you know how us old guys lose our bearings from time to time ;-)

I'd say yours is September 26th..27th or 28th. Am I in the ballpark??

September 30th. It's easy to remember since it's the last day of September. Yours must be the 9th or 11th? (And I was so sure I was right about yours).

Does that mean we're finished :-(

Sept 30th. Got it. I promise not to forget again :-)

Mine is Oct 12th Columbus Day...just remind yourself I'm Italian & you'll never forget again :-)

Through? Us? Never darlin!!!!

Whew!!! I thought I'd blown it :-0)

I will still argue with you to keep the "tension" just the same.

Oh ok Snoop. Since I hadn't even posted anything yet on this thread I wasn't sure, though I figured it might be something like that.

I still think Buchanan meant foreign or un-American. Others when referring to Obama as "different" probably do mean Black.

No worries, Jeter. I just like to note that time has proven Buchannon to be a master at the double entendre. Different appeals to a much larger audience than un-american or foreign, it is a word that can be interpreted many different ways. When he gets called on it he has a convenient duck out - "I didn't mean that when I said different, I meant this".

 

Truly, right now while the iron is hot, Mr. Obama should pound the anvil again, loudly:

"Unfortunately my Fellow Americans, Mr. McCain just doesn't see this issue (any issue, IRAQ especially) the way you see it... our friend from Arizona has lost his bearings, my Fellow Americans: John McCain has lost and continues to lose, his bearings"

 

It's the perfect thing to do right now: the media and the McCain campaign will squawk like chickens, and howl like an old mutt... they'll mention how old their candidate is: they'll squawk about the man's advanced years, again and again... and every time they do, and every opportunity that anyone in the Obama campaign can be asked about it, they'll respond:

"That's not at all what Mr. Obama meant when he said John McCain has lost his bearings: what he meant was that Mr. McCain has lost his way, and has wandered far from the American People, on many issues, most notably IRAQ... and also that he is violating his pledge to avoid negative campaigning: that's what Mr. Obama meant, when he said that John McCain has lost his bearings"

 

...and then the idiots on the McCain side will continue to squawk, and come back again that it's a reference to their man's old age: inviting anyone in the Obama campaign to again explain what was meant by the observation that John McCain has lost his bearings, to again explain the real context of the comment...

...and it could go back and forth like that for who knows how long, weeks maybe, I could only hope...

Leaving everyone listening to the back and forth, certain of one thing at least:

That John McCain has lost his bearings, as Mr. Obama has said, and that his campaign has explained again and again, at every opportunity... at every opportunity the McCain campaign has required them to repeat what is meant, by John McCain losing his bearings.

That's the truth that everyone will come away with from such an exchange: John McCain has lost his bearings... because it's true: he has.

 

And oh yeah, whoever follows these things can't help but also come away with an impression of how old the Republican candidate is, because that candidate's campaign will have taken every opportunity, needlessly and foolishly, to remind them.

 

Dem 02020, you are not only prolific, but correct.

I wonder if CNN's motives in attacking Obama here and in Rick Sanchez's inappropriate comments on Obama's Father's Day speech are caused by the fear that McCain's stumbling will make this less of a horse race and CNN could be losing a lot of advertising revenue in a one-sided contest. 

I don't care how much McCain stumbles, this WILL BE a close race, no matter what.  Media Pundits aside, this country is still divided along bitter, partisan lines and the race issue will (sadly) probably trump any benefit the Democrats might otehrwise get due to the declining popularity of Republicans.  Don't get me wrong - I like Senator Obama.  I hope he wins, and I think he will.  But I also think that it will be closer than most people imagine, and (agains, sadly) race is the reason.  No one is racist when they're talking to people on the phone, or when there opinions are visible and fairly public.  But we'll see where most of America REALLY is with ragards to race when their votes are cast PRIVATELY.

That being said: If McCain WINS in a CLOSE race, I won't blame racism. Because while a white candidate may get more of the (racially challeneged) white vote, that could be largely offset by changes in black voter turnout.  But if McCain wins BIG, in a LANDSLIDE - then you KNOW it's widespread racism.  No other reason, short of a youtube video of Sen Obama eating a live baby, would explain that outcome.

That being said: If McCain WINS in a CLOSE race, I won't blame racism. Because while a white candidate may get more of the (racially challeneged) white vote, that could be largely offset by changes in black voter turnout. -NiceGuyEddie.

Loved Reservoir Dogs by the way. 

I have to respectfully disagree.  African-Americans make up about 16 percent of the population.  If you believe only 16 percent of the white population is voting based on race, check Pennsylvania, Ohio and a lot of southern states.