More BS from Republican Joe Scarborugh. Yuck

John McCain is old, cranky and forgetful. Why not mention it? His brand of "oldness" is liable to get us into another war like Iraq.

McCain is old and when you get old you forget things. I don't care how many people you have doing things for you or how many miles you run or how many times you work out at a gym when you reach your 70's you're going to forget things. THAT is not an insult or a political point, it's a fact of life. Maurice Chevalier said "Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternatives". I can't understand what McCain and his supporters are so upset about the fact that he's still living. 

 

PEARL:

All of a sudden, the "MEDIA" is hypersensitive about "FAIRNESS".

Of course it's "FAIR GAME" to go after a candidate about their positions on issue, the things they say, and things like consistency.

On the other hand, it's considered now BY THE MEDIA to be dirty pool to go after a candidate about his AGE.

So, criticisms about McCain saying contradictory things, forgetting what he said last week and swearing up and down he never said it (with the videotape running showing him to be flat out WRONG), and getting his facts muddled ... those cannot be portrayed as FAIR points to make. Instead, such criticisms are directly calling into question McCain's AGE. This is how the Media is seeking to downplay examination of McCain's record.

In short, McCain is immunized against ANY criticism having to do with his competence in thought or speaking, because it will be portrayed as an UNFAIR ATTACK on his age.

Pretty clever, eh?

And the real hypocrasy here is that even is Obama was 'smearing' Jonny Mac for being old... well, at least IS, acutually, OLD!  Sen. Obama, on the other hand, is not (1) a muslim, (2) the most liberal Senator, (3) effete, (4) a nerd, (5) too poor/too rich to relate to the middle class, etc...  These are all opinions, and fairly baseless ones.  The fact that McCain is OLD is a a fact.  He's old enbough to (hypotheticallY) be the oldest man ever elected to a first term.  He is old enough to be old in historic proportions.  So even if they DID use it aginst him, it would have the undeniable benefit of actually being TRUE.

Right on point.  But more importantly who gives a . . . These people have been attacking Obama with lies since Iowa.  They've even brought the battle to his wife, which isn't a common thing in politics.  So what if people want to discuss McCain's age? At least their not telling lies.  The man is elderly.  Anyone who has lived through at least 6 U.S. wars (I'm including the Cold War) has got to be described as elderly. 

Tex, it's like 2000 all over again.

Doth Joe protest too much? A sore spot, perhaps?

REAGAN WAS CONSIDERED BY MANY OUR BEST PRESIDENT. HE WAS ALSO OUR OLDEST ELECTED PRESIDENT AT 73 AND PEOPLE LOVED AND RESPECTED HIM. ( MR GORBACHEV KNOCK DOWN THAT WALL)REMEMBER ? ANYWAY I DONT THINK McCAIN'S AGE WILL BE A PROBLEM SEEING A GOOD NUMBER OF THE POWER PLAYERS IN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY THAT SECURED THE NOMINATION FOR BARACK ARE OLDER THEN McCAIN.THAT SAID  McCAIN BETTER START ACTING MORE LIKE REAGAN AND LESS LIKE BOB DOLE WHO ALWAYS SEEMED MEAN AND ABOVE IT ALL IN HIS CAMPAIGN AND THE FUNNY THING IS HE IS REALLY A NICE GUY ASIDE FROM BEING A WAR HERO.

And when you get old you can drive around for hours with the caps lock key on.

And when you get old you can drive around for hours with the caps lock key on.

And accidentally hit "post" before you get to the part about the onion on your belt and the bumblebee coins.But seriously, I do agree that Grampy should start acting more like Reagan.Nice and quiet.

But seriously, I do agree that Grampy should start acting more like Reagan.Nice and quiet.

Especially as quiet as he's been since June 5, 2004.

OK... skirting the boundary of good taste & decency a bit there.

Just to be clear, I wasn't wishing Grampy dead, just wishing he would be as nice and quiet as Reagan, who is dead, currently is,

John McCain is not a "nice man."

Just ask some of the reps of POW/MIA groups whom he has badgered at hearings over the past decade or so.

McCain is a mean, nasty person. He's not fit to be President, IMO. 

Just ask his wife. He thinks it's okay to call her vile names when he's mad at her. Just ask Obama. McCain said that it wasn't okay for the 527 groups to smear his opponents, but now that he's behind and that opponent is Obama, all of a sudden he's denying any responsibility or any control over those side groups. It's ridiculous to say that he cannot exert any influence over them.

Just ask his wife.

Or ask his first wife, who was disfigured and crippled in a car accident while he was a POW.  He came home to a wife who didn't look the same as the one he left, and eventually dumped her for Cindy Lou.

By first wife, you mean his OBM*, right?

* Original Baby Momma

 

reagan "considered by many to be our best president"?  are those the same people that voted for bush?  and the truth is ronnie spent his second term talking to the potted plants in the white house.

I always thought (and still do) that Dole could have won if only he had just been himself.  He's a funny guy, and yet he came off as having no sense of humor.  But your abs right - McCain is looking more like Dole'96 that Reagan'84 right now, and he'll need to shift gears pretty significantly if he wants to win.  (And some of his recent statments (like "getting troops out of Iraq is not too important") have shown that he's not entirely in touch with the electorate.)

REAGAN WAS CONSIDERED BY MANY OUR BEST PRESIDENT.

These people are referred to by others as "idiots".

City:

Reagan was also considered by many to be our worst president; saying "many" in this context is empty.  Reagan was 70 when elected, not 73.  The age of "the power players in the Democratic party" is irrelevant.  Whether a person is a "nice guy" is also irrelevant; "many" people say that Bush is a nice guy and he has been a disaster for this country.  McCain also is all but incapable of controlling his temper--how does that make him a "nice guy?"

So when Obama says that McCain has "lost his bearings", you don't think that's a knock at his age?  Come on. 

So when Obama says that McCain has "lost his bearings", you don't think that's a knock at his age?

If Obama had said McCain lost his marbles, THAT would be a knock on his age.

If he said the bearings in his motorized scooter (that he got at little or no cost, because of the friendly friends at the Scooter Store who did all the paper work for him) were going bad, that would be mocking his age.

I will be mocking his age, strange left jaw, robo rich wife and anything else I can think of.

It may be a knock on his age, but so friggin what?  He is elderly and it's proven the older we get as humans the less recall we have.  I'm not saying he can't lead or may not be sharp, but at least Baracks not lying on him.   

Is Barack Muslim? Does he have a gay lover? Is Michelle Obama his baby mamma?  Does Barack give terrorist fist jabs? Is he black enough? Is he too black? Is he a Manchurian candidate?  Is America ready for a black president?  Is Barack Curious George?  Are Barack supporters a cult of crazies?  Is Barack in cahoots with Hamas? Is Barack an anti-semite?

I mean pick anyone of those baseless questions and ask why they haven't been asked of McCain?

Actually I would LOVE to hear someone ask if McCain is "too black" to be President.

If he said lost his dentures, that would be a knock on his age.

So when Obama says that McCain has "lost his bearings", you don't think that's a knock at his age?  Come on. - Hotwings

No, I don't believe he had McCain's age in mind at all.  This is the full context of the statement:

This is offensive, and I think it's disappointing. Because John McCain always says ‘I am not going to run that kind of politics,’ and to engage in that kind of smear is unfortunate, particularly because my policy toward Hamas has been no different than his.

I’ve said it’s a terrorist organization and we should not negotiate with them unless they recognize Israel, renounce violence, and unless they are willing to abide by previous accords between the Palestinians and the Israelis. So for him to toss out comments like that I think is an example of him losing his bearings as he pursues this nomination. We don’t need name calling in this debate.

It is perfectly obvious to me that Obama is referring to McCain losing his moral, ethical, principle bearings.  Obama set it up in the first part where he refers to McCain's words and then points out how his actions contrast with those words.  I think it's a logical stretch to believe that he was referring to age.

Not that MMFA cares about age attacks. Olbermann continues to be given publicity here even though he asked McCain to buy more depends in order to help the economy.

I don't think anyone should pick on McCain's age. Posts on this board, calling him "Gramps," make me cringe. It makes the poster (and, by extension, this community) look small and petty.

That said, Scarborough is trying out a Republican talking point, to see how it flies. The clear intention is to protect McCain from legitimate criticism by characterizing it as ageism. It's akin to recent Supreme Court battles, wherein Democrats were attacked as being prejudiced against Italian-Americans if they criticized Alito. Another example is Alberto Gonzalez. You couldn't criticize his record of incompetence or his wafer-thin resume without being attacked as being anti-Hispanic. (Ruben Navarrette's opinion columns are full of that kind of cheap shot.)

Progressives need to find a way to control this message--perhaps by painting the conservatives as whiners when they complain about every little perceived slight. We can't cede the grounds upon which we legitimately criticize the misogynistic busturd. 

Somehow I think McCain would rather be called gramps than a misogynistic busturd. I'm sure that he'd rather be called Senator McCain, but the respect one might have for what he's been through has drained away because of his stubborn insistence on being a war monger.

Is a busturd what you become after you've been thrown under the bus?

;-) 

Good one ;-)  McCain's been thrown under the bus by BushCo, but got up and embraced the BushCo bus.  Now they let him ride on the tires on the new McBushCo Express; however, like a busturd, he only gets squished flatter every time the wheels go around...

Everyone who sources or mentions MMFA's material in the media is given publicity here, it's not just Olbermann.  MMFA likes to display how much effect they think they're having on the media. 

That said, I still believe MMFA is beholden to Olbermann, since they have refused to cite Olbermann's past instances of misinformation about Hillary Clinton.

Scarborough has proven to me that he really doesn't belong on this show because he doesn't know anything. He uses the shock value of his uninformed statements to draw you in. Mika, has some knowledge about the world and has to listen to "Joe" going off about Fox type BS most of the time. The other one never gets much attention. I don't really know why he's there...support for Scarborough I guess.

This is quite odd of Scarborough.  He spent a lot of time here saying McCain is too old. 

McCain has been a fool for years.  It has nothing to do with him being old.

This Scarborough thing is a waste.  McCain is old get over it.  I'm more shocked and apalled that Pat Pukechanon called Barack 'exotic' last night on the show with Dan Abrams.  What the hell is exotic?  I mean I've heard that term recently used for strippers, as in exotic dancers - which is just a nice way  of saying stripper.  I've heard it used for bogus loans in real estate, as in an exotic loan.  I've never heard it used to describe a person though.  I would think it equates to calling an Asian person, oriental.  Exotic?  Is that for mixed people alone or can I now start calling myself an Exotic American?

HughG.  I couldn't agree with you more!  This is pure BS being trotted out by the media and its surrogates, a straw man, the real question is the context,(remember that) and as BillJ pointed out in his post it is clear what Obama and his supporters were speaking about but since they don't want to talk about that they try and deflect the issue by saying it's an attack on his age. McCain has shown he is out of step and confused, many times denying he said things when their is clear proff to the contrary.  He attacks Obama for positions he himself has held, and he has flip-flopped on almost every position and has shown himself to be not a man of principle but a opportunist in the worst sense.  This man couldn't be more despicable and don't give me this jive about his war record???? He wasn't and isn't the only one who has suffered in war, just ask the over 4000 dead and tens of thousands whjo have been maimed and wounded, and the yet untold number who will come home physically sound but mentally maimed.  What has been McCains response:  No to the new GI Bill sponsered by Sen. Webb and endless war.  Our civil and human rights to liberty or hanging by a thread as highlighted by the recent 5-4 victory granting habeus corpus to Guantanamo prisoners.  Think about it our congress lead by John McCain wrote legislation granting 1 man the president the right to take away a humans basic right ,i.e.,the right to be secure in his person his freedom his liberty without charges or the right to face his accuser or the right to attorney or anything else, indefinitly!  Not to mention the "harsh" interrogation(torture) techniques they are subjected to.  This is not humane and is not the America I want to be part of and we barely held on 5-4 while media surrogates obscure the issue by injection the phony issue of age.  There maybe 3 justices that may retire during the 1st term of the next president McCain has made his position clear which would be a giant step backward for womens, civil and human rights and age hS NOTHING DO DO WITH IT!  Don't let them distract you our freedom may well depend on it!  Remember the priest that said during the Nazis occupation of his country, first they came for the Jews i was not Jewish so i didn't protest.  Next they came for the socialist and communist I was neither so I didn't protest.  Then they came for the trade unionist which I was not so I didn't speak out .  Then they they came for me and their was noone left to protest for me!!!

Please excuse the lenght and the spelling errors I 'll try harder but I hope the gist is clear!  Respond to every instance of lies and distortions of the Repugnicans and their noise machine, hold their feet to to the fire knowing full well the media is not on our side!