OMG. Does anyone really even care??? So what if the media calls him a maverick...

Face it MMFA & all others so very concerned with this maverick BS. It ain't gonna stop. It ain't gonna matter. It's not gonna decide the race. It will be included in McCain's obit.

File this away with the other 7,250 McCain is a Maverick threads.

"File this away with the other 7,250 McCain is a Maverick threads."

done *papers shuffling* 

I agree with you in principle.

However, googling 'maverick mccain' results in mmfa links right away so it is helping a gullible person to not believe senator McCain is indeed a maverick.

Launched in May 2004, Media Matters for America put in place, for the first time, the means to systematically monitor a cross section of print, broadcast, cable, radio, and Internet media outlets for conservative misinformation — news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda — every day, in real time.

It forwards the conservative agenda to say that John McCain is a maverick when he's not. Media Matters reports those instances every day, in real time. It doesn't matter how often it happens, or how it might not be the most important thing they cover, or that it might not stop as a result of their commentary. It's what they do. It's what they do well.

You don't have a leg to stand on when you say that they should not cover it when McCain is called a maverick. They're doing exactly what they're supposed to be doing. All your comment does is try to distract us from that reality.

You don't have a leg to stand on when you say that they should not cover it when McCain is called a maverick.

Kindly point out where I suggested such a thing? Ah so typical of you Sue/Ellie17/NotThat George & the umpteen other monikers & sock puppets you've posted as here, to falsely accuse someone of saying something they didn't say.

MMFA can highlight McCain is a Maverick till the cows come home, & I fully expect they will. My point, lost in your scrambled brain, is that it won't stop the media from repeating it. And it will, whether you or MMFA likes it or not be included in McCain's obituary.

MMFA can highlight McCain is a Maverick till the cows come home, & I fully expect they will. My point, lost in your scrambled brain, is that it won't stop the media from repeating it.

 
That's not true, Jeter.  Your point was to simply opine 'so what?' and 'who cares?'  I care.  As do others.  It is total bunk for members of the media to market a politician.  It's really that simply.  You don't care.  Good for you.  So don't post about it.

OMG. Does anyone really even care??? So what if the media calls him a maverick...

Media should not be branding politicians.  It's really that simple.

Except for the moron in the WH now... worst President ever. Can't find a more appropriate brand than that.

Personally, I have never used the name of the office when referring to George W. Bush - that would be a term of respect for a person who deserves no respect whatsoever.  As far as I'm concerned, Bush is an illegal squatter in the White House, a military deserter, an alcoholic/drug abuser, and a war criminal.  I will not use the term "president" in conjunction with a person's name until January 20, 2009, when Barack Obama is sworn in as our truly legitimate president and begins the process of restoring the honor to our country that has been tarnished by the Bush Misadministration.

JETER:

Just to be clear, it's your position that the dishonest Media, the lying rightwing, and the disingenuous Republican candidates should be able to give out false information without comment, without documenting the REPEATED efforts to fool the American People?

It's OK if maybe it is noted by MMFA a time or two, but if the Rightwing Republican Media decides to repeat an untruth 750,000 times, that it should just be ignored after the first couple of times?

The building of narratives is what the Media has been about for the past couple of decades -- it's a mainstay of propaganda. Repeat a LIE often enough, it becomes a TRUTH, a "CONVENTIONAL WISDOM".

McCain cannot win as a Republican. Republicans have destroyed everything they've touched in the past decade, and America is in a hell of a fix because of their wrongheaded policies. So, McCain must be packaged as SOMETHING ELSE. A "maverick" is the approved way to distinguish McCain as sufficiently DIFFERENT from Republicans to get elected.

Ah, but WHY would the corporate Media WANT McCain elected? Easy answer. McCain "the maverick" is in lock-step with Bush on all issues that matter, the economy and the war. He's reliably Republican on all issues foreign and domestic. He's on board to "BOMB BOMB BOMB IRAN". He's a reliable corporate guy, ready to continue the policies which have fabulously enriched the very few elites while trashing the rest of America.

As the election approaches, the Rightwing Media should be challenged EVERY SINGLE TIME they try to promote their false narrative and try to FOOL the American People. MMFA's mission is to DOCUMENT rightwing misinformation, EVERY TIME it appears in a Media forum designed to misinform the audience. If the Rightwing lies ONCE, there is one mention in MMFA. If the Rightwing lies 750,000 times (which is how they do it, according to Joseph Goebbles' formula), then it MUST be noted 750,000 times.

Here's how today's Corporate Rightwing Media is operating, following Goebbles' quote: "

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

Just to be clear, it's your position that the dishonest Media, the lying rightwing, and the disingenuous Republican candidates should be able to give out false information without comment, without documenting the REPEATED efforts to fool the American People?

No that's not my position. Why don't you go back & read my post instead of skimming it & posting with your typical knee-jerk reaction. The dishonest left or right media, the lying left or right, the disingenuous left or right candidates should not be able to give out false information without comment or without an effort to point out any & all false information.

MMFA can point out the McCain is a Maverick myth every time it's uttered. That wasn't my point cowboy. I just don't find the mention of McCain as a Maverick earth shattering. Obviously you do...

Tex, McCain being referred to as a maverick will not destroy humankind or even the USA.

Your long-winded pontificating would be better utilized on more important mis-information--not on some inconsequential label hung on McCain by the media.

McCain will forever be known by many as a maverick. It will not turn the election in McCain's favor. And I can guarantee it will likely lead off his obit. So why throw a tantrum over it?

Choose your battles wisely Tex.

OMG. Does anyone really even care???

Hey J - consider this.  If MMFA stopped posting headlines referencing "Mavarick" McCain half their staff would have to be laid off.

What they may not realize is that true conservatives don't like McCain because of his "Maverick" moniker.  By trying to convince them he is not may work in McCains favor. 

Wow, you really don't get it.  Media should simply refrain from marketing a politician as anything, good or bad.  That's all.  Report, don't brand.  It's simple really.

Excellent point Dem.

One of the [many] reasons I'm not voting for McCain is because of his eagerness to jump in with Liberals on issues I would have rather he didn't...like Illegal Immigration for example. If that's a maverick, I want nothing to do with it or him...

But if MMFA can convince hard core Conservatives that McCain does not deserve the maverick label-- they might actually help him get them back on board with his candidacy...and win in the Fall.

Oh sure, just like that 'true conservative' Bush, right? You so-called 'true conservatives' voted that moron in TWICE, remember? Well, things didn't turn out so hot, didn't they, with Bush's 'true conservative' stances on immigration and federal spending, right?

 

Candidates are given undeserved names sometimes. Take Obama, for example, who was said to be post-partisan even though he voted with his party 97% of the time in 2007.

or, the 'compassionate  conservative' label attached to a certain presidential candidate and how well that turned out.

happy defending the undefensible.

 

John McCain is no more a maverick, then Bush was a uniter, not a divider (or a compassionate conservative).

This is the party that gave us Dennis the Menace and now want to saddle us with Mr. Wilson.

McCain is still considered a maverick? Yea...and Madonna is a fresh young singer.

James Garner will always be Maverick to me.

 

Well...John McCain is old enough to have played one of the Mavericks on TV.

Smooth as a handle on a gun

Maverick is the name

Wild as the wind in Oregon

Blowing up a canyon

Easier to tame

Well...John McCain is old enough to have played one of the Mavericks on TV.

Gramps McCain is old enough to have LIVED in the Old West.... :-)

How a NAVY fighter pilot turned into a Bush Kiss-A$$ i will never know.

more like an escort than a maverick...

maverickorescort.blogspot.com 

more like an escort than a maverick...

I was thinking more like a Pinto with the exploding gas tank....

I'm waiting for that Pinto to explode during the debates...

People just need to remember that just as the Ford Maverick was a lousy car, Gramps McCain would make a lousy president.

As Harwood suggests, the Maverick moniker is not necessarily good, politically, for the Straight-Talker. Conservatives loathe the Maverick's independent judgment even more than Liberals. Repeatedly calling Maverick Maverick hurts him with the repub base, those whose votes the Straight-Talker could actually get.  Thus the liberal media injures Maverick's campaign by using that moniker because it reminds many conservatives of his independent positions. 

McCain isn't a maverick, but he's full of something else one finds in horse barns.