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Gibson to caller: "You just like [Obama] because he's ... like you and you want to see one of you up there"

Summary: Reacting to a caller who spoke favorably of Sen. Barack Obama, John Gibson said: "You don't know what Barack Obama stands for. You just like him because he's -- he's -- he's like you and you want to see one of you up there, and you don't care what he stands for." The caller responded: "He's not one of me just because he's a black guy or something like that. That doesn't make him one of me. He's standing for him, not me."
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Posted by archfiend

"John Gibson said: "You don't know what Barack Obama stands for."

Does the right-wing hold the patent on projection? Or do they just have a bulk-rate deal with the manufacturer?

Posted by seeryer in reply to archfiend

What George W and the Republicans stand for:

-Ever mounting Deficits

-Unending wars

-inaction environmentally

-Tax Cuts

-Tax Cuts

-Tax Cuts

-Fat Cats

-Tax Cuts

The Fraud that Republicans can govern effectively has been demolished by compassionate conservatism and George w Bush. 

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to seeryer

The Republican Party's slogan should be: We know how to get elected!

Too bad they can't govern worth a shet...

Posted by NiceguyEddie in reply to seeryer

compassionate conservatism

This is a very suspect phrase.  It means that we'll make sure you're living the way we think you should in order to make sure you get into heaven.  It has NOTHING to do with alleviating suffering in this life.  That kind of compassion is for commies and atheists.  But it's OK: Vote for us and we'll get ou into heaven faster!

A large group of Christian Fundamentalists approaching you with the interntion of doing you good is only slightly preferable to a large group of Muslim Fundamentalists approaching you with the interntion of doing you harm.

Posted by JerryEckelberger6376 in reply to seeryer

Like AlGore says--What should be up is up! What  should be down is down!  We just need truth in the media.  Their 17% approval rate might go up a little.  FOX approval rating is at 72%.  Go figure.

Posted by captfoster2 in reply to archfiend

It's to bad this caller wasn't able to speak the facts and his thoughts in an orderly fashion......

It was obvious where the caller was going, but I think his thoughts got scrambled after he realized who he was on the phone with...... I mean.... come on.... John Gibson and Angry Rich?  Puh-leez!

Posted by RABBITLUVR

Gibson utilizes a two year-old's method of argumentation.

Posted by SueEld in reply to RABBITLUVR

Gibson is a moron. And a racist.

Posted by dr. matt in reply to SueEld

Gibson is also the far right-dope that on more than once occasion has claimed that the GOP is the big tent party and that the conservatives/GOP are the ones that care about blacks and minorities.  Sadly, he's able to utter these words without laughing hysterically.  

Posted by archfiend in reply to dr. matt

It's not a coincidence that Gibby is able to mouth such inanities without laughing.

They screen for that at Faux News. I hear the bar is set pretty high.

Posted by tex in reply to dr. matt

MATT:

Help me out here. WHO among the GOP are actually "CONSERVATIVES", and what makes them conservative?

CONSERVATIVES oppose big government, unnecessary government intrusion, oppoes secretive government, oppose foreign entanglements and things like "nation building", approve fiscal responsibility and balanced budgets, and are true environmental stewards.

I don't see a single CONSERVATIVE among the GOP. Who am I missing?

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to tex

"CONSERVATIVES oppose big government, unnecessary government intrusion, oppoes secretive government, oppose foreign entanglements and things like "nation building", approve fiscal responsibility and balanced budgets, and are true environmental stewards."

They oppose those things only if no monetary gain can be realized from them, e.g. if Halliburton couldn't make a dime off this war and the resultant nation-building then they wouldn't have launched it.

It's all about the money, not principal. Money does strange things to the conservative.

Posted by tex in reply to RABBITLUVR

RABBIT:

Under the banner of "conservative", the corporate NeoCons have launched their "conquer the world" plans.

NeoCons are our aristocrats, after dollars and power no matter who all it hurts. They are without conscience and without any hint of social responsibility. They can utter some of the conservative's buzz words ... free market, personal responsibility, American exceptionalism ... but their only interest is in exploiting every possible advantage for personal gain. And the biggest tool for exploiting world treasures? The U.S. Government.

Posted by TadekKorn in reply to tex

What a bunch of hooey!  For conservatives the issue has never been big or small government.  The issue is simply that the entire state belongs to them.  "L'etat c'est moi!" 

Whether they reach their position by vote or by coup,

the state works for them, not for me, nor for you!

Posted by plhamel4926 in reply to SueEld

Doesn't this Gibson genuis realize that Obama won some of the whitest states in the country? How about Iowa? What about the Rocky Mtn states he won? Those people didn't vote Obama because he was "like them." They were white. I am also white and male and voting for Obama.

I've never seen this guy or heard him--but it doesn't sound like I have missed much. I watch Hannity for amusement because I love watching him squirm as he screams incesently about pfleger, Wright and Ayres over and over to no avail. 

Even he must know that the Republicans are in deep doodoo.  After all, they have shattered our reputation on an international level, allowed the worst housing crisis in the nation's history, and threw the nation into an economic downspin towards possible depression with the gas prices, and who do they roll out? A frizzled old geizer who's the same old same old. They have to know they are done. Or am I overestomating their intelligence again?

Posted by TadekKorn in reply to plhamel4926

The genious of Gibson and Hannity and O'Reilly et al is that they're all instrumental in helping the GOP and tne neo-cons realize their goals.  One cannot for a moment believe that this group of propagandists have reached and have maintained their pulpits despite their daily stream of idiocies without the help of not only the corporations who own the media but also the our government, via the FCC, which just happens to be aiming to control the internet--the one remaining corner where free and critical expression is happening! 

Posted by tex in reply to SueEld

Not to mention the crux of the charge: To support someone for office who is "JUST LIKE YOU."

When have the Republicans put forward someone who was not "JUST LIKE" Gibson ... a white male? Does Gibson support them because they're "JUST LIKE" him?

Posted by wzwriter in reply to SueEld

Gibson is a moron. And a racist.

Far too many conservatives are....

Posted by snoopy

Sounds like white fear to me.

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to snoopy

Only select whites are afflicted with that fear.

Posted by dbeden4153 in reply to RABBITLUVR

select whites?  You'll have to tell me what aisle those are in at the store...;)

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to dbeden4153

Sure, the ignorant and stupid aisle. All the way to the right of the building...

Posted by dbeden4153 in reply to RABBITLUVR

hahaha sorry...the term "select whites" just sounded like some kind of chicken product to me.

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to dbeden4153

Yeah, they're 'chicken' all right... chickens**t RACISTS is what they are.

Posted by snoopy in reply to RABBITLUVR

It's located next to white meat in the containers marked "elitist".

Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to snoopy

"Select whites" sounds like the department in the store where Gibson buys his sheets. Then he takes them to the alterations department to have the eyeholes cut in them.

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts

And on the way out they can pick up their wood crosses, gascans, and matches...

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to RABBITLUVR

Oh, and rope too.

Posted by dbeden4153

You know, Fox News still pretends in their own Orwellian world that they are "fair and balanced."  Do any of them listen to each other? or themselves?  or Bill Moyers?

Second time today...boom! 

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to dbeden4153

Like I said in another thread, I hope Billy-Boy's head explodes all over his set tonight if he goes with that story. That was too hilarious.

Posted by MoonbatYouBet

So many talking wingnuts are jumping on this train that Obama is getting huge numbers from black voters just because he is a black candidate.  They seem to be saying that black voters judge a candidate by skin color first and foremost.  If this were true, why weren't the Presidential runs of Al Sharpton, Carol Mosely-Braun, Alan Keyes or Jesse Jackson more successful?  Isn't it more likely that given a choice between two very similar candidates that then racial identity might become more of a factor?  While Hillary and Barack are not identical, they have a pretty fair equivalency in pluses and minuses and policy proposals that really don't diverge until one gets into the details.  Which is borne out by the way that gender/racial identity tied in fairly closely to the voting in the primary.

Of course, since Gibson and his ilk have done so much to establish the myth that Obama supporters cry racism at the drop of the hat, now he can go ahead and be "as racist as he wanna be" and try to get away with it.  John tried to masquerade what he was saying with a quick tangential reference to policy and platform but his primary message here was pretty clear "Black people are stupid and only like Obama because he is one of them."

Posted by snoopy in reply to MoonbatYouBet

The republicans are obviously not trying to court the black vote this time, are they? Considering they typically get less than 10% of that segment, it must be scaring them to know they may drop to 1%. Sure, some will switch from R to D because of Obama, and in a way it will be because he's black. But my guess is it's because the Democrats, whites included, picked Barack to represent them thus proving that Dems are more welcoming to the black population than the republicans ever were. By whining like little babies, the republicans lost any chance they had of retaining or increasing black participation in their party. That's why they will try to woo Hillary supporters, cause losing 5% of the electorate is damaging to McBush's chances. They need to make up for it somewhere...

Posted by Billy Hill

I dont have a color TV, no use I am blind but I was told he had a white mother?????? That surley does not make him black....or white.....whats going on out there with all this color stuff? By what I hear I would suspect he looks more black than white even thought we all know the truth.

Posted by RABBITLUVR in reply to Billy Hill

What is going on is that the rightwing is going bananas over this. All the talkers were set on running against Hillary and they had all their little props ready for action. They were all prepared to drag Bill's eight years in the White House and all the 'scandals' into the mix. Then the unexpected happened... and now they are scrambling to find anything, ANYTHING, regardless of how illogical and moronic it may be, to use against Obama.

Rush using that utterly stoopid and UNFUNNY 'Barack the Magic Negro' bit is only the beginning. Expect much more of this. Much more.

Posted by snoopy in reply to Billy Hill

If you want technicalities 50% puts him in minority status. It's like me trying to claim I am american indian - can't do it cause it's way less than 1/8th of my blood. (don't remember the dividing line, BTW)

Posted by Billy Hill in reply to snoopy

I think the word we should use to described Senator Obama is "biracial". it is accurate and accepted. Why is it not used by the MSM? It would kind of put a damper on the "black" thing. They would at this time much prefer Black to biracial.......sounds better. I to am biracial....it does not mean anyting to anyone here but it does to those where I grew up.

Posted by Preston_P in reply to Billy Hill

So MSM should call Barack Obama biracial despite the fact he defines himself as black/African-American? I think mixed race people have every right to define themselves however they want, and if Barack Obama wants to define himself as black/African American (same as Halle Berry) then people should not be upset over his decision. It's not as if he disowns his white mother and grandparents, he talks about them all the time, but in America, he looks black, and if he wasn't a superstar politician and some regular guy with a 9 to 5 job, he would be treated as black man, regardless of having a white mother. Being black is a social construct in America, it has less to do with biology. It has more to do about consciousness and how the dominate society treats you. Furthermore, if we want to REALLY get technical about this, most African-Americans have white ancestors due to Slavery. So, despite Obama being biracial, black folks in general are all mixed. (Many should check out Henry Louis Gates, Jr. two-part documentary on PBS that explores this even further.) For example, my great, great grandfather was Anglo-Saxon, great, great grandmother was black, should I suddenly label myself "biracial" even though I look "black" and accepted by the larger society as "black"? I mean, I'm what folks in the south would label high-yella just like Harold Ford, Jr., though I'm still defined as being black.

Even when Barack Obama began his campaign and you heard pundits reporting that many in the black community are asking whether Obama is "black enough," that had more to do with him knowing the cultural history of blackness and empathizing with the struggle of being black in America than him being biracial. Being half white or having white ancestors is nothing new to black people in this country, and during Slavery, and later, Jim Crow, those with one-drop of black blood was still placed as second-class citizens in society. Obama is aware of this, thus, he considers himself black, like millions of others from a similar background. Sure, legally Slavery and Jim Crow has been outlawed in this country, but the mindset and the Diasporas that were formed because of the two still live on today in this country.

Posted by snoopy in reply to Preston_P

Right on, Preston. I'm claiming Irish heritage mostly because of my name and my dad's insistance that we are. Only the lonely who claim 100% white republican uses the hienz 57 excuse to say you ain't what you say you are. There  is a reason they live in trailer parks though...

Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to Preston_P

Extremely well said, Preston. Thank you.

Posted by dr. matt

 

I'm surprised the mentally handicapped 'Angry Rich' didn't chime in with some useless quip like "By The Way, We're Winning The War!!!!"

 

Posted by TomJoad

Yes Gibson, you are a racist. Congratulations.

So he's saying its not right for black people to vote for a black person simply because he's black?  I think in an ideal world, thats probably fair. But do you hear him attacking southerners, or evangelicals, or ignorant white people, who will vote for a texan or a christian or no doubt a white male without having the slightest idea of the 'issues.' I'd say Gibson probably fits that category, firstly trying to derail his caller with a tangent about weapons systems, and then saying Iran is going to bomb the US. If you think Iran is planning on doing that, then you're an ignorant war hawk and maybe you Gibson, should enrol in the marines if you feel that strongly.

Posted by IRONY 101 in reply to TomJoad

Tom, please understand that Gibson and his fellow right wingers are not racists...they simply don't want a president with nappy hair.  ;>)

Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to IRONY 101

Isn't George Bush's hair "nappy" when he wakes up after his afternoon nap?

Posted by mary59

GIBSON: All right, Barack Obama is against a missile defense system, which only yesterday tested again successfully and is really our only protection against somebody like Iraq getting a missile and firing something at us -- excuse me, Iran. So, Thomas, what exactly do you like about his foreign policy position that he just enunciated?

Gibson embarrasses himself with the above just after playing a clip of Obama making intelligent remarks about how he would cut the bloated defense budget. Naturally, he accidentally says Iraq when he means Iran (I suspect he doesn't understand either country) and claims that star wars is our only hope. It's amazing totally that the airwaves are full of b.s. like this and people who can't understand reason and logic and refuse to even try.
Gibson is just another brain dead far right winger employed by the FALSE NEWS CHANNEL and should be reguarded as not worth listening to.

Posted by August Heat

Amazes me everytime I hear some racist clown say blacks are racist for voting for Obama.  AS IF AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVEN'T OVERWHEMINGLY VOTED DEMOCRAT FOR DECADES. 

And that's what really gets my goat.  The hypocrisy of it all.  Kerry, Gore, Clinton, Kennedy, etc . . . ALL WHITE MALES!!

Seriously, how many times has Gibson voted for an African-American to be president of the U.S. of A?

Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to August Heat

Seriously, how many times has Gibson voted for an African-American to be president of the U.S. of A?

I'll bet he's done it many times, and then wakes up screaming from his worst nightmare. 

Posted by unhipcat

The man is a racist pig. Well, I take that back. Maybe it's just that he consistently makes asinine, ignorant, racist statements. Like the one about Blacks and Asians should have more babies so Mexicans don't take over. I would say I'm surprised that he's able to keep his job, but obviously there's a segment of the population that likes to hear such garbage, which is even more disheartening. I guess you can't outlaw hatred and stupidity. What a pig.

Posted by talib123

Greetings all, have you ever wonder what the reaction would be if Obamah declared that he was "white," and what the reaction would be? Do you think he would accepted by those who identify them selfs as "white"? And if not why not????