It is pretty clear how the right-wing is going to attack McClellan.  I have heard the exact same 3 arguments over and over from nearly every conservative and I am really not paying that much attention:

1. McClellan sounds like a left-wing blogger.

2. (commentator must accompany words with a frown) - McClellan does not sound like the same old guy.  He is bitter or no longer gruntled.  Who should we believe, the McClellan back then or the McClellan now?

3. The prez is far too busy to comment on this matter.  He is soooo busy being busy doing important stuff and all.  I'm sure you understand.

I need to turn this into a drinking game.  All of these rebuttals are pretty hilarious and do not do anything to counter McClellan's points.

Open, you left off the editor/ghostwriter pile of poo. That one is being thrown against the wall a lot, too.

Hey, check out that rhyming couplet!

The lying fascist right wing is also now trying to connect McClellan to George Soros.  The corporatist conservative Republican news media is joining in with them.

This tag team slime attack against McClellan only proves the Republicans AND the media to be guilty of their disrespective crimes against America.

Right On

The comments you added were right on. The media and the Republican Party are way too manipulative in making a case for everything the president has done. This alliance still exist today.

In fact, this right-wing machine never stop being supportive of the crimes associated with this war. In unity, they stop coving this war in the detail needed to bring home the growing opposition in this country and the world. This has slowed any effort that would of changed the direction on this war. 

Every time Wolf Blitzer and others in this conservative media comment on their coverage, they confirm the tendency to think the American viewer is stupid. In third party terms, they refer to their coverage in a objective politically correct voice. There is nothing correct about what they have done in covering this war.

One of the biggest lies the media help this president to generate was Al Qaeda in Iraq. There was no Al Qaeda in Iraq running the fight against US forces. The media, lead by people like Michael Ware, created the threat, but if you have not noticed, they never showed one group of this deadly group in action. I referred to them as the ghost enemy because, unlike previous war opponents, you never scene footage pf anything related to this "deadly opponent. Low and behold, the next t thing the media reported was the defeat of this ghostly opponent who was never there to begin with. 

In effect, thanks to no coverage from the media, the so-called "Surge" got credit for tracking down our deadly enemy and kicking them out of Iraq. Where is the proof of this claim to victory. Starting from the premise Al Qaeda's presence in Iraq warranted special military considerations.

The media's phony attempt to adopt  a third party evaluative objective voice is a slap in their viewer face. I would love to see this dynamic exposed and brought to its conclusion, before another president like the one who created this mess is elected. Show your intelligence and vote smart.

 Joseph 

I heard Limbaugh talking about this the other day.  His argument was that McClellan is doing all the same things that he was criticizing Richard Clarke for when he released his book.

Of course, at that time McClellan's job was to spin for the White House.  So it's not like that was some unbiased commentary on his part.  Only a Limbaugh fan is brainwashed enough to believe that someone who quits spinning for Bush is a hypocrite now because he's saying something different from when he was spinning for Bush.

Yeah, I find it hillarious that these right wingers are so "puzzled" that "Scott did not say anything like this while he was working for the Bush Administration".   Hmmmmm.... I wonder why?  I think every worker in America could answer that one.  Like McClellan would continue to have a job if he started answering all of the questions asked to him or give an answer that wasn't "on message".

Apparently Scott has had a little time to think about things and he sees that America was not served well by all of the secrecy and duplicity of his former employer.

That's what makes Ari Fleischer so scary.  He lied back then, and continues to lie today in his support of GWB.

Remember, you're either for us or against us.

Not only is Ari Fleischer scary for standing by the White House in all it's past lies, but he is the head cheese of one the right wing 527’s who will be spouting out lies about the Dem’s this fall, this guy is really bad news. He has received millions of dollars to do as much damage as he can.

More like McClellan confirms just about everything that left wingers have been saying all along.

 

Exactly.  Which leads conservatives to only one possible conclusion: McClellan is now somehow a crazy liberal.  Maybe it was something he ate.

Yep. Yep.

Seems to me they've called the guy everything EXCEPT a liar.

Which I find quite telling.  They have yet to actually REFUTE (or even DENY) a single claim he's made!  Just the usual ad hominen BS!

And they tend to attack the MESSENGER rather than the MESSAGE (as usual) because they have no response to what McClellan is saying-they just want it out of the news as quickly as possible.

It seems like only a few years ago when we heard the term "Haters" only on the Jerry Springer-type shows. The hoochy who was sleeping with her sister's husband, or the 300 pound mom getting called out for going out dancing in her hot pants.

"Y'all are just haters!"

It was a pretty lame defense from the dysfunctional crowd that ended up on those shows, dismissing the criticism from their more responsible friends and family as jealousy, or pure groundless "hate".

Now it's an acceptable response from our media and politicians, to explain away any exposure of dirty business. How did we get here?*

(* I will not accept "On our Hate Horses" as an answer.)

Obviously, doormat/lapdog/enabler Republican Mike Allen is trying to take the lead from his fellow doormat/lapdog/enabler David Gregory as they both compete for the award of "Most Unrigtheous indignant lapdog Republican media enabler" of Liar Bush.

Since Mike Allen, an unadmitted lying right wing Republican, has appeared on the lying right wing fascist Mike Gallagher show spewing his lies and dissembly, Allen has taken the slime-covered lead.

Might be an amazing number of people who could be holding positions akin to leftwing haters. I supect getting an acurate deffinition of the term would not be easy.

Many things got us here Col. The various conservative think tanks and the talking heads who fronted the neocon ideology have to carry a lot of the responsibility.

Got another Prachett quote which describes this groups output to me,"It was garbage,but it had been cooked by an expert. Oh,yes. You had to admire the way perfectly innocent words were mugged,ravished,stripped of all true meaning and decentcy,and then sent to walk the gutter for________." "The ________'s problems were clearly the result of some mysterious spasm in the universe and had nothing to do with greed,arrogance,and willful stupidity. Oh the_______management had made mistakes---oops. Well-intentioned judgements which with the benefit of hindsite, might regrettably have been,in some respects,in error"--but these had mostly occurred,it appeared,while correcting"fundamental systemic errors" committed by the previous management. No one was sorry for anything,because no living creature had done anything wrong;bad things had happened by spontaneous generation in some weird,chilly,geometrical otherworld,and "were to be regretted. The______stood for everything,from life and liberty to Mom's homemade Distressed Pudding. It stood for everything, except anything."

And I think your cuplet runith over, but I'm not one to talk. :-)  

And I think your cuplet runith over

I've got a manly reputation to uphold, and knowing too much about poetry isn't part of my plan, thank you very much.

I agree. If a man starts spouting poetry, it's only a matter of time before he slides into flower arrangement and interior decorating.

And from there it's a very short trip to French lessons.

God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Ferlinghetti.

What is not so well know is that after Adam and Eve, he made a coffee table.

Kurtz says the coverage was "flawed", as if you have to look real close to see slight slipups at the highest intellectual level.

I think being a complete propaganda organ and openly despising all critics even after they were proven right goes far beyond "flawed".

A profession that judges itself is never wrong in any substantive way.

"Kurtz says the coverage was "flawed", as if you have to look real close to see slight slipups at the highest intellectual level.

I think being a complete propaganda organ and openly despising all critics even after they were proven right goes far beyond "flawed".

A profession that judges itself is never wrong in any substantive way."

Since Kurtz is a right wing Republican himself, he's of course, going to slap the corporate conservative Republican news media and their disrespective corporatist conservative Republican media hacks on their wrists.

The news coverage of not just the lie-based Iraq war, but also of the entire Bush administration, and the Republican Party as a whole, is more than flawed, is more than biased in favor of the Republicans, it's corrupt, and it smacks of outright collusion between the media and the Republican Party, Liar Bush included.  

Yeah, we're haters, all right.  We hate corruption.  We hate our elected officials breaking laws and subverting the foundation of our democracy. And ultimately we hate that our leaders lied and bumbled all of us into a war that cost trillion of dollars and hundreds of thousands of lies while media crotch-sniffers sat by slack-jawed and obedient.  

Or you just chugged down a big jug of Hater-Aid.  ;0)

Is that what I drank last night?  No wonder my head hurts so bad this morning.

The first thing that struck me about this is how utterly oblivious Wolf Blitzer is to the nature of the issue under discussion when compared to either Kurtz or Dobbs. 

e.g:   BLITZER: But you know what? We had a reporter whose sole job -- Maria Hinojosa -- was to cover the anti-war activists. And we did a lot of the protests. We did a lot of that almost on a daily basis going into this war. So we didn't ignore those anti-war protests.

What a clueless ball of fluff he is!  Perhaps the Uprising will result in Blitzer and some of the other clearly empty vessels having to go back to doing local weather on the noon news somewhere in Iowa.

- sl

We had a reporter whose sole job -- Maria Hinojosa -- was to cover the anti-war activists.

This begs some questions.  Who is Maria Hinojosa?  What protests did she cover?  Did any of her reports ever make it on the air? 

I'm thankful my cable provider added CNN International - no more Wolfie, Chrissy, Nancy, Glen, Billo, and the rest of the bubble-headed blowhards getting in the way of the NEWS!

What's upsetting the right wingers is that McClellen,who used to be one of their own. has decided to tell the truth about this worthless administration.They cannot tollerate any critisism of their heros in the White House.