Where does McCain say he will support an amendment to the federal Constitution banning same-sex marriage.  He specifically says it is a state's rights issue.

MMFA is misleading.

"But if it is overturned by a superior court, I will then obviously support the other path."

In other words, it's a state issue until the state superior courts (half of which are elected by the people) refuse to do his bidding, then he'll go federal. 

And another 14 states have superior or supreme courts where the judges are subject to removal by the voting public under the Missouri Plan. 

McCain was talking about the U.S. Supreme Court. Both the California and Massachusetts Supreme Court have overturned the will of the people and imposed gay marriage on the people. Despite this McCain still opposes a Constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. He has always voted against the gay marriage ban. Media Matters is flat out lying here as they almost always do.

Then please, Mr. Rhino, tell us what he means by "the other path".

Both the California and Massachusetts Supreme Court have overturned the will of the people and imposed gay marriage on the people. - RH

Imposed gay marriage?  CA and MA are forcing people to engage in gay marriage?  How did I miss that news story?

See, this is the talking point favored by the Theofascists.... they whine that we're denying them their Constitutional right to codify their bigotry into law.

Last night, Rachel Maddow made an interesting observation on MSNBC. She said that all the controversy over the legalization of gay marriage in Massachusetts, where she lives, has died down. Why? Because people woke up the next day and nothing had really changed. The marriages of straight people weren't threatened. Life went on...

Exactly. You would think that, if God was so upset about it, he would have done something drastic, like make the Red Sox lose the World Series...

You will note that among Boston's exceptional pitching staff, Curt Schilling, a right winger who campaigned for George W. Bush, is on the injured reserve list. Perhaps there was some divine retribution directed at Mr. Schilling...  ;>)

And if that happens it will no longer be a "States right issue", it will then be a federal issue.

 How hard is that to understand?

And in Arizona has already rejected a gay marriage ban, So what option is left for McCain and his fellow anti-gay Arizonians if the voters of Arizona keep rejecting a state ban? Uhhhh...that would be a federal ban on gay marriage.

"And in Arizona has already rejected a gay marriage ban, So what option is left for McCain and his fellow anti-gay Arizonians if the voters of Arizona keep rejecting a state ban? Uhhhh...that would be a federal ban on gay marriage."

Stop and read the facts before going of on a tangent. As stated...yes he is against it, BUT it is a "States rights issue". If, and only if, a State passes laws that then infringe upon the rights of another State's voters which opposes these laws...then it will be a federal issue. Until this ever happens nothing is/has changed.

Where does McCain say he will support an amendment to the federal Constitution banning same-sex marriage?

Right where he says "And I will stick to that position until such time...a higher court says that my state or another state has to recognize the other stat -- another status of marriage." Then he will "obviously support the other path."

He specifically says it is a state's rights issue.

Sure, "until such time" when he will "suport the other path", and then it will stop being a state's rights issue. 

MMFA is misleading.

No, Media Matters reports the facts. You are misleading.

Nice try...The facts are what is stated not "what" you want it to mean. It is a "States right issue" until a court rules/makes a ruling that affects one states rights with another...then it is a federal issue.

That's a good call, Mike.

McCain was pretty clear that he supports marriage as an institution between men and women only...civil unions for others...as a state's right until it becomes a federal issue.

This is a thinly veiled effort by mmfa to inject their homosexual marriage agenda. 

 

And a gay marriage ban has already failed in McCain's own state of Arizona. McCain backed it. Since the ban failed at the state level in Arizona what option is left for the Senator from Arizona except to support a federal ban on gay marriage? McCain is just trying to be clever and walk a fine line as he is inclined to do. The straight talker never actually gives straight talk...

 -- what option is left for the Senator from Arizona except to support a federal ban on gay marriage? -- irony

That's a fair question and one that should be posed to McCain. We could then determine if he really thinks this is a state's right issue or is he just being clever as you suggest.

Mr McCain -- Now that your state has defeated the ban on gay marriage...does this settle the issue for you...in your home state of Arizona? 

Get back to me, Wes, when McCain gives you a straight answer to your question. ;>)

Good point here by Media Matters...

It is difficult for the media to keep up with McCain, as he switches positions so frequently, and flip-flops at the drop of hat on numerous issues, occasionally doing a full half-gainer complete somersault, as he does here. Still, if you want to be a reporter, you have to do more than just take things at face value. 

You have to look at The Real John McCain. 

 

 

You have to look at The Real John McCain. 

The Real John McCain is the Fraudulent John McCain. This guy is slick... 

 He added, "I'm committed to maintaining the unique status of marriage between man and woman. I think it can best be accomplished, and in keeping with my federalist philosophy that states should do as much as possible to have that done at the state level. ... But if it is overturned by a superior court, I will then obviously support the other path."

The "other path" being an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

For McCain, it's a state issue, unless the outcome doesn't fit his agenda.

Pipe down - Tommy's gonna mind read for us again.

And going off topic -

http://www.startribune.com/photos/?c=y&img=1bobble.jpg 

 

Har! That's a cracker, Ol' Ben ! And not really off-topic, as it's about a problem that might be reduced by extending the right to marry to those who, due to the lack of social acceptance, can't be honest about who they are.

Oh, I get it. MMFA should have said that Johnny McBush "opposes" a Constitutional Amendment "until such time" that it's the only recourse left for the Troglodytes to shoehorn their superstitions into the Federal Constitution.

McCain is more of Bush again.  Bush never gave straight answers on abortion either.  We won't know McCain's real position until it is too late.  Obviously, we is going to move to the center to get elected.  Bush 101.  Then he can do what he wants and worry about moving back to the center three years later for round two.  The Dems do the same thing.  Look at Hillary the Hawk trying to have it every way on Iraq. 

Obama is a true Liberal and is sticking to the agenda.  You know what you will get if he is elected. 

If you don't like it, then vote for McCain, the pig in the poke, and take your chances.  But you can already tell McCain will bring more Iraq war, an Iran war, continued civil rights erosion, more immigration fences and punitive laws, less privacy protection for health, marriage and lifestyle, more dependence on oil (including outrageous expenses digging in the sand for Anwar oil in Alaska, less alternative energy policy, less incentive for auto makers to go green, less environmental protection, less regulatory protections for financial securities, more of the same on health costs and lack of coverage, and, last but not least, less (not more) transparency. Even his idea to hold House of Parliament type open sessions with Congress is bull***t.  McCain wouldn't survive the first one - he'd get mad and stomp out.

I share your sentiments...we have no idea what McCain would do if elected president. In a sense he could be like George W. Bush who ran as a moderate and then immdeiately swung to the far right the moment Gore conceded the election. In McCain's case even the conservatives fear that he will swing to the left. It's crazy...we have no idea what a McCain presidency would be like. McCain's an opportunistic, ambitious fraud... 

One thing we know..... he'll owe the Evangelical Robovoters a huge debt, since he can't possibly win without their support. That's why he kissed up to Hagee and Parsley, who are Theofascist Bigots of the worst order. Once he's elected, will he repay them or just tell them to f*** off? Who knows?

Now that McCain has rejected the endorsements of both Hagee and Parsley it will be interesting to see what McCain will have to do to bring the religious people back into the fold. What I suspect is that McCain will remain consistent and come up with some inconsistently contorted position that panders to them. Stay tuned...

"As Media Matters for America has noted, in 2006, McCain supported Arizona's Proposition 107, a state constitutional amendment that would have banned same-sex marriage and civil unions."

How was McCain supporting civil unions when he supported this ban in 2006?