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ABC News' Wright simply asserted that Obama "seemed to criticize" troops
Summary: During an ABC News report on Sen. Barack Obama, David Wright clipped a recent statement by Obama in order to assert that he "seemed to criticize the performance of U.S. troops" there. But Wright left out the rest of Obama's sentence, which makes clear that Obama was criticizing the troop shortage in Afghanistan, rather than the troops' conduct.
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Posted by CaseySpring
Obama did not criticize the troops. I have been watching how this media seems very biased toward him from the start of this campaign.
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 7:10:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DorisRussell
WRIGHT: Then this week at a New Hampshire forum, Obama seemed to criticize the performance of U.S. troops in Afghanistan
How was he critical of our troops? I still do not get this? We do kill civillians. Can we never mention this in the eyes of the GOP?
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 7:18:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fawltylogic in reply to DorisRussell
No, apparently not.
But even if he DID criticize "the troops"... so what? They're humans like everyone else, and do great things as well as horrible things.
I hate this idea that "criticizing the troops" is somehow forbidden. That's what leads to disasters.
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 9:33:15 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by smittymatt16 in reply to fawltylogic
It's the idea of criticizing the troops without giving them the benefit of the doubt that poses a problem with some. Troops, as you should know, do what they are told, and they fight brave fights. To immediately criticize those who give you and I freedom is unfair to them and disrespectful. The military has accountability measures in place, and soldiers are held to a standard to which they are to adhere to, or they know they can and will be court martialed. It's the idea that Obama conveyed in say that we are "just" air raiding and killing civilians. No one is disputing that civilians have been killed, but to suggest that this is the only thing are doing there is disrespectful and unacceptable. That is the issue.
Posted Monday August 20, 2007 10:07:35 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog in reply to DorisRussell
This is just the Bush apologists' default method for derailing a conversation which is heading in an embarassing direction for the GOP. It's based on the bogus premise that our soldiers are so thin skinned and emotionally fragile that they just cannot function if we criticize the idiotic policies of President George W. Numbnuts Bush. They usually throw it out there when someone raises an uncomfortable truth to which they cannot respond.
Posted Sunday August 19, 2007 6:25:45 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Vondarrien
What an ass, this guy is.
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 8:06:36 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by clams casino
Congratulations, David Wright. You've been Hannitized!
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 8:54:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RoberttheP in reply to clams casino
Is David Wright the NY Mets 3rd baseman also?
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 11:06:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by kevin1007
This is ridiculous. It is obvious that Obama was attacking our troops. The folks at Media Matters for Al Qaeda, none of whom served in the military, should stop spinning for this vile man.
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 9:11:05 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by deeznuts in reply to kevin1007
Buh-bye troll...
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 9:58:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by solon in reply to kevin1007
YOU are a liar, stop lying
Posted Friday August 17, 2007 11:35:06 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to kevin1007
Why would it matter if MMFA staffers served or not? How does that invalidate anything they have written?
Secondly, if it was really obvious, you guys would stop relying on interpretations and paraphrases of what Obama said and would show his remarks in full context - without embellishment of any kind. You simply can't and won't do that.
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 12:47:52 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by james.m.k in reply to kevin1007
I see... Well, when you put THAT way it seems obvious.
*rolls eyes*
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 1:30:51 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by onionhead in reply to kevin1007
If it is "Media Matters for Al Qaeda". Then why are you fraternizing with us terrorists?
Since you are knowingly fraternizing with terrorists, you are commiting an act of treason. Therefore, you must also hate the troops, you flag-burning hippie.
Wow! Neo-Con "logic" is fun!
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 1:53:55 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by HuntingtonBeachLefty in reply to kevin1007
Kevin, by "spinning", do you mean providing entire quotes in context, as opposed to clipping phrases out of those quotes?
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 2:41:35 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog in reply to kevin1007
Well, well. JamesBondKevin has come in from the cold. I guess he's been on a secret mission to some terrorist hotbed. Kevin went to spy school, you know.
I'm glad Kevin has time in his busy schedule of torturing terrorists and rescuing kittens to stop by and share his stale Rush Limbaugh talking points. It makes me feel....special.
Posted Sunday August 19, 2007 6:19:25 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to kevin1007
We'll encourage the eligible MMFA staffers to enlist as soon as we see the bush girls, the Romney boys or anyone named Cheyney in uniform.
Posted Sunday August 19, 2007 10:18:48 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by heru in reply to kevin1007
This is ridiculous. It is obvious that Obama was attacking our troops. The folks at Media Matters for Al Qaeda, none of whom served in the military, should stop spinning for this vile man.
kevin
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Hey Dick Cheney where were you and G Dumbya when it was time to serve in Nam?
Posted Sunday August 19, 2007 10:11:38 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jjamele2880
Oh god please don't respond to trolls, they can't be taught, they don't want to learn, and eventually responding to them just ruins the thread. Which, I suspect, is their intention. When someone says something that goes against the Media Matters take but is intelligent and thoughtful, we can have a decent debate. When someone uses terms like "Media Matters for Al Quaeda" it ought to be a good enough indication that that person is not interested in debate, just mudslinging. Really, not worth our time.
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 5:10:08 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by moresby82
I believe the greatest comeback during this whole campaign was Obama's when he responded to Hillary's comment about not saying things even if you think them. It was something to the effect: "I don't believe in hiding things from the American people....there has been too much of that."
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 5:26:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by sluggo
Wright needed a sound byte of some kind. Since he does "cartoon" news reporting what do you expect?
Posted Saturday August 18, 2007 11:03:30 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg
Cut the story and Run with it .........
Posted Sunday August 19, 2007 1:32:02 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by redking75687
Our troops in Afghanistan do need criticized. They sit in air-conditioned bases eating pizza and drinking beer while the Taliban slowly move out and take over more land from their enclave that US troops refuse to enter. We have plenty of troops in Afghanistan, they just don't do anything. We're not setting up infrastructure, repairing roads, bridges, and public works, organizing border guards and crossings, etc. Our troops sit on bases and do NOTHING in Afghanistan. You can blame our moron generals for that.
Obama doesn't know this, he doesn't understand the situation or warfare at all. He'd just send more troops to sit and do squat under the same generals.
Posted Sunday August 19, 2007 11:42:15 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by newagestepper
Part of the issue deals with the policy, rather than the troops. The policy which has been followed has been based on the use of technology rather than "boots on the ground." This has been the problem. The Bush administration has focused on technology, rather that well qualified physical personel. In regards to the Taliban this has meant shifting troops to Iraq, and ignoring the Taliban. The substitution of technologies such as those of the airforce have been based on expanded usage of technologies. These technologies, however in spite of the labor saving goals have increased the level of inadvertant casualties while limiting the capability of building up regional infrastructures. Obama is, i suspect, at least hypothetically dealing with this issue.
Posted Sunday August 19, 2007 6:39:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fawltylogic in reply to newagestepper
I think the problem is that the current administration hasn't used EITHER technology or "boots on the ground". They are plainly and simply so incompetent that they haven't managed to carry out a single successful strategy, and it doesn't matter what they have done.
Bill Clinton, and to some degree George HW Bush before him, had simple, limited strategies in place that worked at least somewhat (many of which were IMO objectionable from a humanitarian standpoint, but that's another matter).
I think what's needed is a mix of the old and the new - but more importantly, the non-military side of these conflicts need to be dealt with. And the current administration is incompetent in that area too.
Posted Monday August 20, 2007 2:06:17 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by redking75687 in reply to newagestepper
I don't think Obama is smart enough to grasp the realities of infrastructure. To him, it's a catch-phrase in a speech given at a fund-raiser. Beware the leader who talks much and does little.
Posted Monday August 20, 2007 6:51:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment