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Boortz accuses Media Matters of trying to manipulate "some whimpering old woman executive somewhere"
On the May 14 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, host Neal Boortz accused Media Matters for America -- which he referred to as "Media Myrmidons" and "Brocksters," a reference to Media Matters President and CEO David Brock -- of "waiting for one little statement that you can take out of its total context and just go on a rampage with, with your Web postings and see if you can pull that Don Imus thing off all over again, see if you can find some whimpering old woman executive somewhere that'll just [say], 'Oh! Oh, my God! We've got to do something now.' " Boortz also said, "And it's not just me, you're doing the same thing to [right-wing radio hosts] Michael Savage and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity and the rest of them."
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Posted by monknj80
I know he's trying to sound tough, but we all know he's really scared. Boortz I challenge you to just forget about the watchdogs and just say whats really on your mind. GO ahead and get it of your chest, it'll make you feel so much better. Don't worry about your sponsors or your bosses.
Let 'er rip, will cover our ears. We promise.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 1:58:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by draftedin68 in reply to monknj80
He'd love to take you up on your challenge but he wants to be in full regalia and his SS uniform is in for alterations.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 2:51:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by archae
Yet more blatherings from the phony "libertarian," Boortz.
Notice how since Imus got his sorry butt canned, the right-wingers are scared half out of their wits?
But instead of modifying their "schtick," instead they are blaming their critics, most notably Media Matters.
Why? Because MM shows their garbage to BE garbage.
So like Bull OhREALLY? and Michael the Savage Weiner, they make up stuff hoping the knuckledrag contingent still believes them.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 1:58:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog in reply to archae
And, for the most part, the knuckledraggers do believe it. That's why we have an empty suit in the White House.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 2:01:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by eweston8542983 in reply to archae
Thing is Imus was replaced by a traditional conservative pundit. mmfa got a little visibility out of it. I think that was as much as it got. Not a small thing,but much less visible than supposedly taking out Imus. Last heard someone predicted he'd be back on the air waves by September. I see no reason to doubt this
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:17:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NotThatGeorge in reply to eweston8542983
But see, Media Matters isn't pointing out others' sleazy behavior and conservative misinformation to make themselves look better.
They aren't pointing out Boortz' boorish comments to bring themselves recognition.
They're pointing out the conservative misinformation and the bad behavior because it's conservative misinformation and bad behavior.
It's the rightwingers who do stuff just for show.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 9:32:06 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jdc_in_fc in reply to NotThatGeorge
No show, except for MMFA's almost daily Olbermann promotional pieces.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 2:01:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fkfhfgjhgyh in reply to archae
I think they are modifying it signifigantly.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:37:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by iflurry8094 in reply to fkfhfgjhgyh
Pardon me for saying so, but you also support a terrorist sympathizer for president.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 11:25:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fkfhfgjhgyh in reply to iflurry8094
I've reviewed MICHAELSAVAGEFORPRESIDENT's public statements and can find no such support.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 11:29:38 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to fkfhfgjhgyh
"I think they are modifying it signifigantly."
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You were wrong as soon as you typed the second word.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 8:56:04 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fkfhfgjhgyh in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts
I'm wrong because I'm an early supporter of MICHAELSAVAGEFORPRESIDENT? Perhaps you'd prefer Tommy for example. He's fine, but I like the commitment and steadfastness MICHAELSAVAGEFORPRESIDENT has shown in his advocacy for the Savage platform.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 11:27:25 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to fkfhfgjhgyh
No. You're wrong because your first two words were "I think."
I'm not surprised I had to explain that to you.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 2:52:11 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fkfhfgjhgyh in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts
Are you the same ITS EASY TO REFUTE WINGNUTS that used to hang around here? Your not as sharp lately.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 3:57:40 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog
And this guy represents that "superior" conservative programming that trounces Liberal Talk Radio in a totally free market. Yeah...riiiiiiiiight.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 1:59:23 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Susie
I just want to say how good it feels to finally be part of the plan for world domination. I mean this is great. Here I thought I was a leaf laughing in the wind. Now I know I am involved in something powerful and even scary to a handful of people losing their place in the world domination game.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 2:16:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RedRightHand
The main positive to the Imus incident will hopefully be one of two results - they get enough shakeup to break up the conglomerates and install equal time on the airwaves ... OR at the very least, the radio personalities will have to acknowledge that they are being listened to ... and recorded. So maybe they'll choose their wild words a little more carefully.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 2:20:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind
So Boortz seems to think Imus would still be on the air if his remarks weren't "taken out of context".
Okay. Prove they were indeed "taken out of context". First things first after all.
Boortz is so full of it. I hear him all of the time here in ATL.
Rest assured Mr. Boortz, if you say something more stupid than usual, the remarks may be repeated and used against you, but MMFA will always keep it in context.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 2:29:38 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pete592
Who would have ever thought that MMFA would have such an effect on the lopsided world of talk radio?
When they're criticized, all they can do whine about it, name call, cry "out of context" and give MMFA more legitimacy.
Olbermann's assessment of O'Reilly's vendetta against MMFA rings true for all these idiots: Their biggest fear is not that they will be misquoted, but that they will be quoted correctly.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 2:31:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by oldmarine in reply to pete592
I'd guess that talk radio's biggest fear is that the Democrats will find a way to legally silence it, specifically via the old Fairness Doctrine.
Let's see, liberals and Democrat supporters control the vast bulk of of the public (FCC-regulated) RF broadcast networks, most of the large newspapers, and have virutually total domination of the public education system (rather I should say the public indoctrination system). Stuff that's legally labeled "news" is largely left wing propaganda - Fox News Channel being the notable "fair and balanced" exception. What's wrong with keeping a free market in radio?
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 7:29:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2
Well I'm still waiting for MMFA & their good buddy Olbermann to mention Opie & Anthony's disgusting "joke" concerning Condi Rice, Laura Bush & Queen Elizabeth.
Oh sorry, guess that doesn't qualify....
I seriously doubt MMFA has Boortz or any of the others quaking in their boots. MMFA is Right-Wing radio's new enemy. And Right-Wing radio is MMFA's favorite target.
Hell everyone is getting free publicity.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 2:48:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pete592 in reply to jeter2
It was lame and distasteful, but, unlike the rightwing morons, Opie & Anthony are not above apologizing for it.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:00:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by oscar the grouch in reply to pete592
So, if someone says something disgusting and outrageous, it's ok if that person apologizes? Perhaps they could apologize in advance, would that be ok? As I recall, Imanas* apologized to the Rutgers BB team, but it didn't save his job.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:04:49 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pete592 in reply to oscar the grouch
What part of "It was lame and distasteful" did you not understand?
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:57:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pete592 in reply to pete592
As far as why XM still employs them, you'll have to take it up with them.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:58:26 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by peghen1428 in reply to pete592
I know XM would not employ them if Hillary Clinton were the target of a rape joke instead of an African American Republican.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:38:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by bingvangorden in reply to peghen1428
That's a cynical and dubious comment. There is plenty enough real stuff to be outraged about. There is no merit in your comment.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:52:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst in reply to peghen1428
but they did include queen elizabeth in their joke. and opie and anthony were canned for their sex in st. patrick's cathedral episode, which i did agree with. there's no one more critical than organized religion than me, but that was wrong to do there.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:53:38 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to peghen1428
You are engaging in speculation as fact. You don't "know" this, you "believe" it. There is a distinct difference.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 9:33:02 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by tman418 in reply to pete592
I think MMFA is only worried about public airwaves.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:31:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to tman418
MMFA often displays the idiocy of purely cable hosts as well. I would say they are fair game. If this Opie and Anthony are spewing conservative misinformation/idiocy, they can be targets as well.
I don't expect MMFA to go after everyone. Like MRC, AIM and newsbusters, they are going to pick their battles (usually along ideological lines).
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 9:36:24 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to pete592
Just for the record this is their 3rd apology for bad behavior. [the other 2 were: St Patrick's sex skit, Boston Mayor Menino is dead hoax]
Which seems to be the way things work these days. Say something bigoted, raunchy, etc. Get called on it. Apologize. Continue on like nothing much happen.
Imus is the only real casualty that I can think of. Most manage to survive.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:21:55 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pete592 in reply to jeter2
Like Oscar, you don't grasp what I'm saying either.
The "Get called on it. Apologize. Continue on like nothing much happen." standard that you describe doesn't happen with the rightwing big dogs.
They don't apologize.
They get called on it, they whine and cry that they were taken out of context and that there's a Soros-led left-wing conspiracy out to get them, THEN they continue on like nothing much happened.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:04:09 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to pete592
Gee Imus apologized ad nauseam and he still got fired.
I notice Liberals always bring up "but they apologized" to excuse any & all behavior. Apologizing multiple times proves what?
You said it, you own it. And I believe that no matter who you are.
I'd rather have no apology than a disingenuous hollow one.
Bottom line here is that if crude remarks are made about Conservative/Republicans [as was done by Opie & Anthony] it's considered a non-story by Libs.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:55:38 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst in reply to jeter2
opie and anthony got canned for what they did in st. patrick's cathedral. and i said i supported that, at 453.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:17:45 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by skettle2000 in reply to mefirst
They did get canned but they are back up on another radio station in new york - and the funny thing is - it is a CBS radio station ( wfny-fm ). Funny that CBS picks up Opey and Anthony and lets Imus go. I guess it shows how much money really does control the media business.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:14:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst in reply to skettle2000
that's true, and that's why imus got canned. his sponsors withdrew. and i know that opie and anthony do a terrestrial radio show, and they also have the show on satellite, but they were off the air for awhile. and part of the reason they issued an apology for this stuff was some of their sponsors withdrew. there are two guys on sirius, bubba the love sponge and scott ferrell, who got canned on regular radio. what happened to imus is nothing new. the problem is some of these guys do not think before they open their mouths. i mean, did the i-man really believe it was a clever thing to call ivy leaque college girls "hos"? and even if he did, he should have said, just kidding, these are great girls. all it takes is a little common sense.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 8:33:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mefirst in reply to mefirst
my mistake. rutgers is not ivy league.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 9:39:44 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by chimpevil in reply to jeter2
I notice Liberals always bring up "but they apologized" to excuse any & all behavior.
Jeter, you're too thoughtful a poster to continually trot out the "liberals this, liberals that" line, unfairly tarring a whole swath of folks with the same brush. The fact is the apology dodge is a time-honored two-step performed by public figures of all stripes and persuasions. Now I absolutely agree that the trend toward well-publicized mea culpas, often replete with tears, is a disgusting one for reasons you've outlined many times here. But you are being thoroughly disingenuous if you identify it as an inherently "lib'rul" tactic.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:22:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to chimpevil
"Now I absolutely agree that the trend toward well-publicized mea culpas, often replete with tears, is a disgusting one for reasons you've outlined many times here. But you are being thoroughly disingenuous if you identify it as an inherently 'lib'rul' tactic."
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Yes, I remember that well-known liberal Jimmy Swaggart apologizing with tears that he had "sinned against youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!"
Bobcat Goldthwaite nailed that one. He said "Let's look at what he did. He was in a car with a hooker and he said nothing happened. That's not sinning, that's being a poor consumer. Sinning is when you steal millions of dollars from people in the name of Jesus Christ."
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 9:04:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by monknj80 in reply to jeter2
O&A are major D bags. I hadn't heard of this incident until you brought it up. I think if the standard applies to Imus it should carry to them as well. (Only Fair)
But......
O&A aren't on MMFA's radar.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:01:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to monknj80
Who are Opie and Anthony? Never heard of them.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:23:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to monknj80
Monk,
I actually wouldn't expect MMFA to address this, though it would be nice if they did. I would expect Olbermann to give them an award, but am doubtful that will happen either.
The explanation for Opie & Anthony not being fired is that they're on satellite radio which apparently makes them immune to the same fate as Imus.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:25:42 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by monknj80 in reply to jeter2
I cuaght that and Olberman should call them on it. Only Fair, but if we're talking about consistency Olberman didn't call Imus out either.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:37:05 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to monknj80
Monk,
Olbermann should have named Imus. The guy wimped out on that one.
The excuse given here by the Olbermann faithful was that MSNBC probably prohibited Keith from naming a fellow employee to an award. Lame excuse IMO.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:44:54 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Brabantio in reply to jeter2
It's pretty easy to say that someone should do something that might get them fired, isn't it? Taking that risk for the sake of mentioning something that was already a story is an entirely different matter. That's a poor risk to take, given the payoff.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:49:14 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by NotThatGeorge in reply to jeter2
What a disingenous piece of baloney.
He completely explained why he didn't comment on Imus, and then said that he had vehemently objected to continuing the employment of Imus to the bosses as MSNBC.
Yet you imply that he chose to not comment on Imus, and you imply that his failure to comment meant somehow that he did not object to Imus' behavior when the facts demonstrate that nothing could be further from the truth.
Why do you abuse the truth on this issue, Jeter?
[link to www.oliverwillis.com] style="text-decoration: none" href="http://www.oliverwillis.com/2007/04/keith_olbermann.html" class="itemheadline">Keith Olbermann's Role In MSNBC Firing Don Imus
He kind of slipped it in under the radar, but in this video clip interviewing Jesse Jackson, Keith Olbermann reveals that he was one of the NBC employees referenced by NBC president Steve Capus who said Imus had to be fired for his statements.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 9:42:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kevin88101 in reply to jeter2
Opie & Anthony = NOT a news commentary show. It's like saying "The Colbert Report" is slanted. The joke by O&A was despicable, but it's on a comedy channel.
Stop trying to change the subject. Why should Boortz be afraid of people analyzing what he says?
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:03:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DorisRussell in reply to Kevin88101
Agreed, Opie and Anthony are not news and not in the mainstream media. If they were televised on MSNBC every morning from 6-9am and made those statements I am sure MMFA would mention them. Imus was on a msm outlet and had msm types participate in his hate.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:12:36 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by peghen1428 in reply to DorisRussell
No Doris, MMFA went after Imus becuase he did not speak the "Party" line as far as Media Matters is concerned. He was against Hillary Clinton and called her "satan" .
Opie and Anthony have done worse than Imus, yet because they targeted Laura Bush and Condi Rice (Along with the Queen) MMFA will ignore this . Why? Because MMFA does not care if media types say hateful things toward Republicans, that is ok in the world of MMFA and the other liberal blogs. You will not hear Michael Moore or Cindy Sheehan or the Huffington Post or the hateful Daily Kos say anything in support of Condi Rice. Why? Because she is a Republican so it is ok to "rape" her.
Disgusting, double standard. Outrageous and Doris you should be ashamed.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:31:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog in reply to peghen1428
Pigeon, you should be ashamed for tossing out such a moronic strawman argument.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:55:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by bingvangorden in reply to peghen1428
Your logic is pretty twisted.If the people you mention don't condemn these two yahoos they must be condoning their comments?! Media Matters put Imus' comments on their site because he has a history of making racist comments. Cynicism is such a waste of time. Stick to the facts, not hyperbole.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:56:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by monknj80 in reply to peghen1428
TO be Fair O&A are a ways out of MMFA's "jurisdiction". Just because they didn't call these guys out in particular does not mean they condone what they said.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:58:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by solon in reply to peghen1428
Thats right, MMFA covers only conservative bias and misinformation in the same way MRC covers only liberal bias. Your fake outrage at what they admit openly in their mission statement is duly noted. If this doesnt suit you feel free to avoid both MMFA and MRC. Feel free to start your own site. Whatever, YOU dont get to run this one.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:09:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kevino in reply to peghen1428
and besides, imus DID toe the liberal line in many cases, and called many retardicans to task.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:08:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to peghen1428
Peg you could not be more incorrect in your statement. Imus was fired after he made his comment about an NCAA basketball team. He was fired after his sponsors dropped his show.
Rape is not a funny matter but neither is call someone Satan or Half-African or Magic Negro. They were fired. It is not for MMFA to defend conservatives but to note conservatives misinformation. I'm sure that there was sufficient outrage for their comments on conservative blogs and media.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 10:17:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Sagra in reply to peghen1428
Much of the reaction toward Imus's remarks stemmed from him targeting ordinary young student atheletes who weren't media figures. He was rich, powerful and famous and chose to pick on young women who weren't any of those things. Even the laws regarding slander recognize the difference between speech regarding public figures and private citizens. Picking on the powerless is bully humor, pure and simple.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 1:14:16 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by UnEasyOne in reply to DorisRussell
Doris, this is just the time honered tactic employed by every kid (or Repulican) caught with his hand in the cookie jar "Jimmy (or the Democrats) did it first!", as if that justifies the bad behavior.
Nixon did it when the "dirty tricks" division was discovered, the corrupt rethugs are doing it now.
All the discussion of what "somebody else" did is a diversion - and intended to be. The O&A bit has gotten plenty of attention both from the MSM and the wingnut blogosphere. I'm sure it will get lots more over time as other conservative misbehavior comes to light. What else can they do?
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 7:17:47 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to UnEasyOne
Also, O&A go after Democrats as fiercely as they do Republicans. You probably don't know about that because the MSM only gets pissed off when they go after Republicans.
And I really don't know what American political party the Queen belongs to , anyway.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 9:10:15 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kevin88101 in reply to jeter2
Why don't you read the FAQ? You'd save us all a lot of time;
"Conservative misinformation is news or commentary that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda. This misinformation distorts the public dialogue on important issues and obscures the truth."
Please tell me how that Opie and Anthony joke, as crude and defenseless as it was, fits the above definition.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:10:17 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to Kevin88101
How did Imus? Yet MMFA featured that here.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:23:53 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN in reply to jeter2
What was featured on MMFA was MISINFORMATION. A misinformation campaign by Imus' producer making appearances on fox news.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200704280001
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:06:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to DTRAIN
How soon we forget...Go back through the archives.
MMFA did at least a week & a half on the Imus's "nappy-ho's" remarks.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:22:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by peghen1428 in reply to jeter2
There will not be a story on Condi Rice being targeted for rape . That is ok for most of the MMFA readers, participants and liberal media. It is such a double standard. Imus gets fired for a joke gone bad after apologizing, and day after day of MMFA stories on ths subject. You can bet if Opie and Anthony said what they did and targeted Hillary the outrage on this web site.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:35:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by bingvangorden in reply to peghen1428
Not a double standard but a waste of time. If you don't have XM radio you don't know who these guys are. Also they weren't peddling conservative misinformation so don't merit the response you desire. Imus' ho comment was one instance in a long line of racist remarks that fit the bill. And plenty of people had plenty to say about it so the post stayed up for a while. Isn't this thread about Boortz anyway?
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:00:56 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by peghen1428 in reply to bingvangorden
Who is Boortz? What major outlets is he on? I think thats a point, we get a story about Boortz but not about Opie and Anthony who besides being on XM are employed by CBS Radio (Imus Conpany).
Where is the outrage?
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:03:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by solon in reply to peghen1428
WWAAAHHHH, do things the way pigpen says or he will throw a hissy fit. WWaaahhhhh, target the guys who say things I dont like WWAAHHHHHH, ok they arent conservative and they arent news media but WWAAAHHHHH I want them targetted WWAAHHHHHH. This isnt your call. It isnt ever going to BE your call. Feel free to start your own site and let us drop by and tell YOU how to run it.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:12:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by bingvangorden in reply to peghen1428
Boortz, sadly, appears on cable news shows. I've never heard his radio show but the guy does get the TV gigs. I can't say the same for Opus and Andy, or who ever. You think it's a double standard? Fine. I don't, also fine. Instead of clinging to this double standard standard why not discuss the issue at hand? Why change the subject to try and prove that liberals are hypocritical? Have these two guys called a Congress woman a ghetto sl*t recently and then get asked to be on Larry King Live? When they do, it might be a bigger issue.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:14:48 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by roundhouse in reply to peghen1428
This is who Boortz is: [link to mediamatters.org]
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:35:47 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by roundhouse in reply to roundhouse
Guess he rates a little attention from MMFA.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:37:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to peghen1428
Check the conservative media, blogs, weekely and of course CHECK SEAN, RUSH, BILL.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 10:20:43 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN in reply to peghen1428
Since when did MMFA have to become the be all end all when it comes to Shock Jockery? Thats not what their purpose is. You cons need to quit whining and LOOK IN THE MIRROR:
www.newsbusters.org
www.mrc.org
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:11:11 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by bingvangorden in reply to peghen1428
Why do you think those comments are ok to MMFA readers? Why assume you know what other people feel? So you can judge others. Remember grasshopper, resentment is like eating poison and hoping the person you despise dies.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:17:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN in reply to bingvangorden
IF you were talkin to me, I don't follow. Please clarify.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:57:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by open_mind in reply to peghen1428
"There will not be a story on Condi Rice being targeted for rape . That is ok for most of the MMFA readers, participants and liberal media." --pighen
Prove it! Show me where "MMFA readers, participants and liberal media" ever said "That is ok"!
I haven't even heard of those pissants before now and yet you claim I think it is okay? Although you deserve it more than anyone has in a long time, I am restraining myself from name-calling here.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 9:45:44 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by roundhouse in reply to jeter2
"How soon we forget...Go back through the archives.
MMFA did at least a week & a half on the Imus's "nappy-ho's" remarks." J2
I don't listen to them and I haven't heard what they said. Sounds like these O&A guys made some stupid joke, a really nasty insult. They should be ashamed.
There's not much to compare here. Nobody has condoned O&A. That's why the attempt to deflect attention from Boortz and redirect it at some liberal hypocricy strawman is so ineffective and laughable.
Imus singled out and insulted PRIVATE citizens, he abused the power afforded him by his celebrity status. He violated a public trust by using the piublic airwaves to slander private citizens.
O&A went after PUBLIC citizens who have equal or greater power footing and access to media outlets for rebuttal if they should choose.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 8:17:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by kaver in reply to jeter2
I listen to O & A a lot. My favorite radio show. O & A didn't make the joke, their guest did. They were just laughing along like me. I have always liked offensive comedy though.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:50:27 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by RealTruthseeker in reply to jeter2
Opie & Anthony have already been fired once...
for things they've said. Imus and Howard Stern have lost their gigs on MSNBC and CBS Radio, as well as E! respectively, for things they've said and done.
Wouldn't be surprised to see Imus on one of those at some time. Who knows?
But their not doing what they do over the airwaves like they were doing.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:16:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by flimflam421
You want "out of context," Mr. Boortz? Here you go:
BOORTZ: "Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity...Oh! Oh, my God!...I am so...waiting...to...give...them...a little...rampage..I think I'm getting close to the edge."
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:01:46 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog
Watch for it...the "Why is this Here" peanut gallery is going to demand that MMFA attack Jon Stewart...any minute now...
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:19:52 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by monknj80 in reply to nerzog
John Stewart is the Real "Beacon of Truth ina Troubled world", to steal a phrase form Shammity. He's my hero.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:38:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN
There's a difference between blatant racism from a Radio Show host and a radio show homeless "guest" inciting rape. Condi Rice was NOT the only target either, there were white women included as well. There is no hyprocrisy or double standard here. Apples and Oranges Jeter2.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:22:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to DTRAIN
So this disgusting sexist demeaning display against WOMEN isn't worthy of our time unless race is involved?
Geez.
Yup rape sure is funny. Har Har.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:39:38 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN in reply to jeter2
So what happened to free speech on regulated (REGULATED no less!) radio that you were so clamoring about before Jeter? Talk about a flip-flop. Its ironic that cons were actively scanning UNREGULATED airwaves on a phishing expidition for "liberals are hypocrites" fodder.
And, lets just get this straight, since I'm calling you out on YOUR inconsistency doesn't mean I support what they said about women.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:57:00 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to DTRAIN
When did I ever advocate racist remarks or demeaning comments or "jokes" about woman as "Free Speech"
My free speech argument dealt with opposing viewpoints [aka anything not consistant with Liberal thought]
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:24:06 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by bingvangorden in reply to jeter2
c'mon Jeter, you're better than that "aka" comment. Blame Al Sharpton for Imus' state. It isn't liberals fault he was fired.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:05:59 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN
And here is the key:
Because the show airs on satellite radio, there are no federal restrictions on its content. That doesn't mean it can't be held up to scrutiny by the paid listeners because it should. And I find it ironic that CONSERVATIVES were the ones who "broke" this story as to try call the "liberals" on their supposed "hypocrisy". What happened to free speech? is that all out the door now?
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:42:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Kevin88101 in reply to DTRAIN
And let's keep in mind that Imus would have survived the NHH comment had he not lost seven major sponsors.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:39:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN in reply to Kevin88101
Shoulda, woulda, coulda
find it who the sponsors are and call them up with your concerns.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 7:01:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by DTRAIN
"Please tell me how that Opie and Anthony joke, as crude and defenseless as it was, fits the above definition."
IT DOESN'T, this article is about BOORTZ's attacking MMFA (Did ya even read it!?).... Jeter is the one that brought up Opie and Anthony.
"That was easy" - Staples Button
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:45:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by HuntingtonBeachLefty in reply to DTRAIN
Jeter also said rape is funny, although he'll probably go running to the "out of context" defense. ;0)
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 3:50:28 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by jeter2 in reply to HuntingtonBeachLefty
Geez Beach, you've gotten me in so much trouble taking my remarks out of context :-O
Tomorrow I'm appearing on The View to try and explain what I meant....
I hear Rosie is on my side. I'm not sure if that's good or bad ;-)
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:26:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by HuntingtonBeachLefty in reply to jeter2
Take Giambi with you for backup.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:36:39 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to HuntingtonBeachLefty
Ex-Lax helps with backup, too...
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 9:51:01 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fantagor
Boortz forgot the chief entity watching and weighing the bile in his words:
GOD
Or does GOD only oversee human events on certain Election Days? I won't count 2000, 2002, or 2004 since GOD was obviously off on a toot for 6 years.
Randy
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:19:21 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by fatty
Don't push me...cuz i'm close to the edge...I'm tryin...not to lose my head...
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:41:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by deeznuts in reply to fatty
Uh-hu-huh huh-huh
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:53:22 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Limit Corp. Ownership
Listen, you moron,
Media Matters just posts what you say. Don't people have a right to know what you say? What are you afraid of?
Why are you such a coward?
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 4:51:01 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mercado
You want to shut Boortz up real quick,call him up,and just ask him what year he graduated from Texas A&M,or ask him how many "Medals for Valor" he won in Vietnam? Or ask him why he bought a "Texas A&M, Class of '67" ring 11 day's before he flunked out of the Univ. for good!
Ask Belinda, his gatekeeper,start calling tomorrow, on his show from 9-12!
If you want the real story about Texas A&M and Boortz valorus conduct in Vietnam, go to; johnsugg.com click on archieves for the months of Sept-Oct '05,andMarch-May '06
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:28:53 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to mercado
Here's another link about Bedwetter Boortz's Selective Service Adventure.
[link to atlanta.creativeloafing.com]
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:06:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by holly in reply to worrierking
Thanks for the links. Since he's a liar and a coward, it makes me wonder about those who listen to him. They can't all be liars and cowards, can they?
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:20:36 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to holly
Maybe they're not cowards and liars. Maybe they're just fools.
Or they could be cowardly, lying fools.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:37:18 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by monknj80 in reply to worrierking
Wow thanks for the link. Instant conversation killer for Boortz. THis should getposted on any Boortz related Article.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:22:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by worrierking in reply to monknj80
Glad to help another New Jersey poster.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 6:42:50 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by holly
He's a Scarlett O'Hara-sized drama queen. It's ironic that he mocks women while being so...unmanly.
He's a pearl clutchin', swooning, takin'-the-vapors drama queen.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 5:59:37 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by princeofwheels
Mr. Boor TZ,
I am that "whimpering old woman executive somewhere that'll just, "Oh!Oh, my God! We've got to do something now." But in the real world, we are waiting for your head to explode, not from asthma but from your fear of the known. Yes, you now you are a liar and the rest of the world is after you. You statements are childlike and we do have our recorders running. And when you are quoted, verbatim, I expect you to deny deny deny.
Dr. Phil-omina
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 7:19:35 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by minnesotablue
typical whining by the ultra left! They can sure dish out the hate but any critism of them drives them nuts!Lets keep the critism going, maybe eventually they will go back into their caves!
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 7:44:32 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Dr Rick in reply to minnesotablue
Typical nonsense from the right; all insubstantial name-calling and derogation, but no factual or objective argument.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 7:59:33 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pearlene_scott1602 in reply to minnesotablue
According to the evangelicals, YOUR world is coming to and end. Don't worry about the caves, we can use the extra dirt you'll provide.
Posted Monday May 14, 2007 10:27:03 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by mercado
Go read this article called "Spotting Disinformation" at:
portland.indymedia.org/2002/12/38175.shtml
This is their Bible! Everything they say or do is built around these 20 or so Commandments. After reading it you'll see right thru any of these blowhards nattering, inane, nonsensical drivel!
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 9:12:42 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by emerald
Reading Boortz' words (don't and wouldn't listen to his show) he certainly seems worried. If the entire Imus debacle did anything, it put these hate radio mediots on notice that their words will be glued to them. Their opinions and views should be stated in more civil terms. Who stands to be hurt by that? Only those who have used the vitriol to further their careers, I guess.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 10:32:18 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by pjcarter
He's afraid of the truth. Thee truth being that Media Matters does not edit their context. It takes their context VERBATIM. It includes the audio and the video 100% without any sort of electronic editing.
If anything, Media Matters is providing a service. Let these idiots cut their own throats with their own words and actions.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 10:53:53 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by joellynm
He doesn't have to worry about me--you couldn't pay me to listen to anything he has to say. Thank goodness Media Matters does it for me. They must be saints over there.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 11:06:25 AM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Sagra
With Boortz's moral compass, he wouldn't know it if he fell off the "edge" and rolled into the sewer.
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 1:17:25 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to Sagra
Yes he would. The smell would be an improvement from where he usually hangs out..
Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 2:57:29 PM EDT / Flag this comment
Posted by lifelibertyproperty
Well, I have sat around long enough and read MM's whining twaddle about how the big mean conservatives/libertarians pick on the libs/socialists/democrats.
You'd think that MM would get a clue as to why most if not all lib radio talk shows are relegated to the wee hours of the night: it's because they garner the same audience as infomericals. No one wants to hear the constant kvetching because you can't dominate electronic media they way you dominate(d) print. You have no worthy product to offer the radio consumer and readership to the "mainstream" newspapers is dwindling since most people can get their news products from the Internet which is more real time that print will ever be.
Get over yourselves. There is no conservative/libertarian equivalent to MM (as far as I am aware) since we can take what we dish out. Time for you to grown up and MoveOn.
http://joehaynes.blogspot.com/Posted Tuesday May 15, 2007 10:00:41 PM EDT / Flag this comment