Boortz, what a racist.

He needs to go now.

Idiot.. here we go with rap music AGAIN. The girls that rap artist refer too are not specific by name or individual, but they are specific in group... YES. Hos, b*tches - and lets not forget gold diggers - DO EXIST!!(thats the same as "groupies" for you white death metal, satanic devil-worshiping, red-state racists country lovin ,rock music artist that think I'm gonna let you slide. Thats right, I'm lumpin you all together, I don't care since everyone wants to lump all rap/hip-hop and say they demean women)

Now women DO throw themselves at rap artists and rock artist all the time. They try to get them for money, jewelery and gifts in exchange for sex. Some do it for the thrill or the chase. Some of them act like straight up b*tches or are admitted sl*ts or both. So what do you think artists are gonna call them? Nuns? 

Secondly, the only way a woman of any race will actually hear offensive lyrics from any genre is if she buys the music herself or somebody else is playing it on a CD/other-medium they bought. They won't hear it on public airwaves. I know your not advocating not being able to purchase offensive material, now I know you don't wanna go there. Thats what you white/racist/racists apologists/rap-bashing hypocrites thrive on. Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter.. need I say more?

DTRAIN-DTRAI-DTRAIN  Respond to My Last Post @ 8:14 

Media Matters keeps these files on people so that when they say these lies Media Mattewrs can just call up their file and refute what they claim.  So when Boortz says that "my show doesn't engage in that kind of name-calling" we all know who read this site that he is lying.

MMFA also would know, since they have these archives that they refer to often, that Boortz apologized for those remarks as documented by Media Matters here: http://mediamatters.org/items/200604030010

Unfortunately, they did not mention that in the body of this article, which I think is a shame since it would provide additional context and is relevent.  I remembered that apology, I wonder how MMFA missed it?

We agree that the apology should have been noted, and have made the change. Thanks for pointing that out.

Apology or not he is still a hypocrite for saying it, given his documented history. Thats my view.

So you agree Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden are all hypocrits when they talk about racism because they all had to apologize for racist remarks?

Both yes and no, YES they made racist remarks which is debatable I say, BUT no though the public, corporate sponsored forum that IMUS used to target a specific group of individuals which is the subject at hand. He served at the pleasure of the sponsors, and they cut him off, thats the end of that.

However, on the March 31, 2006, broadcast of his radio show, Boortz said that former Rep. Cynthia McKinney (D-GA) "looks like a ghetto sl*t," for which he later apologized.

Maybe this was added later? 

(Kinda funny that I had to edit a direct quote from the article to be able to post it.  =) 

Hey Righties, Boortz Is A Jerk. Don't Defend Him.  What About All The Denegration Of Women In Advertising? From Soda To Fast Food I See Scantily Clad Women Shakin' Their Goods In My Face.  That's Right You Guys Don't Go After Big Corporations.  Yeah Rap Music Sucks And It's A Joke. But As Usual You Guys Are Ridiculously Nitpicky in Who You Criticize. 

Hey Pigskin!

What do you know about rap?  Do you listen to it?  Do you know more then three rap artists that FoxNews spills out?  You are just another regurgitator for FoxNews.  Do you have anything insightful to add?  You are like one of those dolls, when you pull their string they blather the same thing over and over again.

As the #1 genre amongst teenagers and young adults of all races, I would revisit that "rap is a joke" line. Don't be mad at RAP because your 17 year old blonde blue-eyed daughter can't get enough of three six mafia (especially now that there on MTV) and would rip their clothes off at even the site of them. YOU PEOPLE KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

Uhhh...I'm 27 and don't have  a daughter DTRAIN. And Just So You Know A Lot Of Young People Don't Listen To Rap Music. They Think It's A Joke Aswell. P.S  There Is Nothing More Funny Than Seeing A Homeboy Kid Trying To Get A Job With His Pants Around His Ankles."Yo  Can I Get An Application."LOL. My Biggest Problem Are The Rap Kids Attitudes. All the Posing And Posturing In The World Isn't Gonna Help These Kids Make More Than Minimum Wage For The Rest Of Their Lives.

That part wan't directed at you per say, I don't know you or your situation. The first sentence was directed at you. Your entitled to your opinion. I should have stated that though.

The second part was a not meant to be taken literally as in ONLY white parent with blue-eyed daughters that are 17 and like 36 mafia. That was only one of a plethora of combinations when it comes to white or NON-black parents male or female who come on mediamatters to rap music and SPECIFICALLY lump ALL black rap artist into one caregory and say "bad" because their KIDS like it. Don't hate the game, so to speak. The WAY it was written was to convey emotion and hopefully OUTRAGE, like the outrage I feel when someone demeans and misconstrues the music that was built on positive foundations and has declined into insanity but that I still love for its diversity. Your subsequent generalizations speak volumes as to how much you really know about rap music and black culture. Thats nothing by the way.

and not just mediamatters, its even more prevelant on the mainstream media and conservative blogger sites as well.

D-TRAIN. First Of All When I Talk About "Homeboys" I'm Refering To A Way Of Speech, Dress And Attitude. Tons Of Whites, Hispanics, Asians etc. Mimic This. If You Take That To Mean Black Culture So Be It. When You Refer To My Generalizations Know I Am Speaking Of Specific Things That I Have Actually Seen. If You Have A Problem With Something I Said Please Be More Specific. I Never Claimed To Know "Anything"(as if there was much to know) About Rap Music. As Far As Not Knowing Anything About Black Culture I Never Claimed Knowledge Of That Either. It Is Funny However That Me Commenting That Rap Music Sucks Means I Know Nothing About Black Culture. But I Do Own A Few Cornell West Books. And What The Hell Is Don't Hate The Player Supposed To Mean? Please Respond DTRAIN Though It May Take Me A Few Minutes To Reply

I said, don't hate the game, not player. Its a figure of speech. Figure it out for yourself.  Look, I'm in agreement that some of your so called "homeboys" that wear pants down to their ankles and can't find a real job. Blame there up-bringing and parents I say. Don't blame rap. I did that stuff when I was in middle and high school, but as soon as went to college, I dropped all that stuff. I was working part time in the math department to support myself. Couldn't do it anymore as much as I wanted too.

But you just admitted that its not just black kids that are dressing like that, kids of ALL races are embracing rap/hip-hop/R&B culture in droves and it has moved to the number one spot. This is true, you can say it sucks all you want to and you are entitled to your opinion but its a fact. However, what my ultimate point is that this effort to bash rap as an excuse for white racist/race baiting/conservative hypocritical commentators is wrong and I have strong feelings about it. I have seen your posts I don't think you would disagree with that part of it least.

"as if there was much to know"

again you prove my point with this ignorant statement. You KNOW NOTHING.

"You Know Nothing".....Okay Eminem I'm Ignorant & Know Nothing Because I Don't Like Rap Music. "You Proved My Point".......You Have No Point... P.S Wyclef Has A Couple Good Songs

Actually the relationship is not cause and effect as you frame it. You don't rap AND your ignorant too.

"Wyclef Has A Couple Good Songs"

You figure that out all by yourself? 

.......Yeah I Did......

rhetorical question Brainiac...

It Was A Smart Ass Remark Not A Rhetorical Question.

More like, it was a sarcastic question that was not meant to be answered.

I meant to write "don't LIKE rap AND your ignorant too" 

Ignorant Of What?....No Details As Usual

"as if there's much to know anyways"

if you don't see the ignorance in that, then I can't help you understand.

You've Been Acting Like I Committed Heresy Because I Don't Know "The History Of Rap" As You Call It. Well Excuse Me. You've Still Avoided Almost All Of The Content Of My Posts. And It Looks Like You'll Continue To Do So.

"You've Been Acting Like I Committed Heresy Because I Don't Know "The History Of Rap" As You Call It. Well Excuse Me. You've Still Avoided Almost All Of The Content Of My Posts. And It Looks Like You'll Continue To Do So."

I don't care that you don't know the history of rap. The point is, YOU DON'T KNOW THE HISTORY, so when you say "as if there was much to know anyways" then your assuming that there is "not much to know" without actually knowing anything at all.

"..I Don't Care That You Don't Know The History Of Rap. My Point Is You Don't Know The History" LOL. WTF??

Yeah, did I stutter? You don't know! You don't know whether there's a little history or A LOT of history, or somewhere in the middle. which make the statement I documented: "as if there was much anyways" ignorant. Don't try to dodge your ignorance, just embrace it.

Rap Has Moved To The #1 Spot? On What The Official DTRAIN Power Rankings? Actually Rap Sales Are Way Down...But Honestly I Don't Care. It's Pathetic When IMUS Blames Rap Music For His Comments. Advertising Is As Much To Blame As Rap, But As I Said Before Right Wingers Don't Go After Powerful Corporate Advertisers. But Your Position Like So Many In The Rap Community Have A Lot In Common With The GOP. Neither One Takes Any Responsibility For Anything.  "It's A Reflection Of My Environment." Really? Most Rap Song Are About Being Rich And Hanging Out By Swimming Pool F*uckin' B*tches....Where Is This Environment Beverly Hills? The Funniest Part About Rap Is How The Whole Album With Be" I'll Kill You, I'll Kick Your Ass, I'm F'in Bitches, You Better Respect Me" And Then They'll Have One Song Saying "Can't We All Just Get Along".

"Rap sales are down",

UMM... DUHHH.. ALL music sales are down, Its called mp3s, kazaa, limewire, bearshare, morphius and IPODS dufus. Where have you been the last 2 to 3 years? Its all relative though, when compared to other genres, who are experiencing the same thing, rap/hip-hop and r&b are still number one. Embracement of rap/hip-hop culture is so high and of so many different races that even Karl Rove tried to do some rap skit, calling himself "MC Rove". Where the hell have you been? That was sickening just to watch that. When millions of black kids dress in cowboy boots and yell howdy yall banging toby keith from the 10 speakers in the trunk let me know. Or maybe Tim Mcgraw cause he did that one song with Knelly!?

This wouldn't have been an issue with me until admittedly you said rap was a joke, but insist on talkin out of both sides of your ignorant mouth. If you don't like the lyrics, don't buy them. You can bad mouth rap all you want, but equating going after racists commentators on public airwaves to going after rap music as a genre is wrong. But your free to try.

Rap Sales Are Down More Than Other Genres. This Is A Fact. Look At The Top 10 Album Sales Over The Last Few Months......Here's An Idea. Try Responding To My Posts Instead Of Just Arguing With The Voices In Your Head...What Does Carl Rove Doing A Skit Have To With Anything? What Is Your Point? I Never Said Nobody Listens To Rap? You Haven't Articulately Criticized Anything I've Said. When Did I Talk Out Of Both Sides Of My Mouth? Any Details? Of Course Not....You'll Love This One .......A Black Kid Acting Like A Rapper Is Like An Asian Kid Mimicking Jerry Lewis As The Chinese Chef.

Jerry Lewis? Jerry Lewis?  Asian Kid? you expect me to take you seriously? 

It's Okay If You Don't Get The Reference...I Won't Call You Ignorant Though.

Your trying to equate imitation of rap artist by black youth to Jerry Lewis and some  Asian kid reference in which neither have anything to do with the topic at hand. That doesn't make ME ignorant, It makes YOU and your argument irrelevant. Read above as to my "explanation" or better yet documentation of your ignorance.

actually now it looks like previous page, not up.

Evidence Of What? You Don't Think Rap Music Has Any Cultural Responsibilty You've Made That Clear.  You Don't Think It's Demeaning To Women. You Have No Problem With The Violence And Over The Top Vanity It Promotes.......Once Again I Have No Problem With Your Stance. I Don't Believe In Censorship. But The People I Encounter In The Real World Who Listen To Rap Music Have Bad Attitudes And Are The First Ones To Be Disrespectful And Start Trouble.......This Doesn't Mean Everyone That Listens To Rap Music Is A Jerk....But Your Lack Of Comprehension As To What I'm Addressing Is Mind Boggling

"You Don't Think Rap Music Has Any Cultural Responsibilty You've Made That Clear.  You Don't Think It's Demeaning To Women. You Have No Problem With The Violence And Over The Top Vanity It Promotes"

Now where the hell did I say that? or make it clear? Look, you did it again with this whole, "I met these 'people' who listen to rap music and they like, you know had bad attitudes and sh*t..." 

So you say you met them, what did they say to you?, what did you say to them?, did you actually meet them or just see them drive by? What the hell does this have to do with Boortz and his hypocrisy on calling minorities women names on his show and then "blasting denigration of black women by rap artists"?

I liked your original argument about ignoring corporate enablers and advertisers. BUT we can't solve all of Americas problems all at once. These companies and ad agencies have the gold so they make the rules.  Please stick to that as its your strongest point. Rap sucks and is a joke to you? FINE. I can't convince you otherwise.

"Where In The Hell Did I Say That?".....You Haven't Said Anything. I Gathered That From You Dodging Every Question I've Asked. I've Tried To Have A Discussion With You And You Repeat "You're Ignorant" Ad Nauseam. Also, If You Don't Know That Wanna Be Homeboy Kids Of All Races Have Terrible Attitudes Than I Don't Know What To Say...But I Can Assure You A lot Of People Know Exactly What I'm Talking About.  People Like You Are Why Dems Lose Elections. You Wallow In Your Lesser Of Two Evils Role. Just Because Right Wingers Are Wrong Doesn't Mean Rappers Are Right.

Whats With The Whole Capitalizing All Of Your Words Deal? Is That Supposed To Make You Some Kind Of Authority (Authoritarian) On This Debate? I Assume You Do That With Every Debate? I Feel Sorry For You. 

So now I haven't said anything at all. Can you make up your mind please? All this talk about people of other races you met who listened to rap having bad attitudes it totally off topic. Whats the signficance of you meeting people that listened to rap and had a bad attitude? Again, who the hell cares? Your not really debating me on the issue at hand. Boortz, Hyprocisy. Denigration of black women on PUBLIC airwaves. You know that stuff.  Name me one rap artist who specifically targeted an ACTUAL group of young black females (not ficticious ones they refer too in thier songs) ON A RADIO STATION. You and I know both know you can't cause it never happened.

You just wanna take all the opporunities you can get to spout off all the generalities you can think of decribing people who generally embrace rap/hip-hop culture. If that was your experience then so be it, but don't make that representative of everyone who listens to rap/hip-hop. 

Ohh and lets not forget about this gem "democrats always lose elections". Well, we just had them in November, umm do you remember who won? Don't bother wasting another brain cell in your head - if theres any left.

Read How This Debate Started. I Said Sure Rap Is A Joke, But Boortz Is Out Of Line. You Then Said I Was Ignorant Because I Don't Know The History Of Rap......Go Back And Read It. You Went Off Topic And I Foolishly Followed You......You Have Never Addressed What If Any Responsibility Rap Has To Society Or It's  Promotion Of Violence And Women As Object. You Refuse Share Your Thoughts on These Topics.....But You've Broken Me Down. You Won't Tell Me And I Don't Care Anymore. 

Rap is a mode of music, idiot, that rhymes over beats. There is nothing inherently wrong with the mode. You might be able to indict the content used by individual artists but not the mode itself.

To blame rap in general is like calling for an end to poetry because you find poems by certain poets offensive.

Oh No Not Another One....Let Me Tell You The Same Thing I Told The Other Guy.Rappers Should Be Able To Say Anything They Want. These Republicans Are Trying To Blame Rap For Their Racism. But, All Of The Rap I See On T.V Promotes A Prison Thug Attitude. When Kids Of All Races Dress Like Criminals And Then Complain About Being Hassled By The Man They're Getting What They Deserve(in my mind at least). I Think Liberals Need To Acknowledge This To Further The Debate. The Republicans Are Wrong Of Course. But, I Also Believe A Prison Thug Mentality Is Something That We Should Try Avoid Promoting In Society ........GET IT?

Boortz claims to have volumes of evidence to support his racist views but does not recite the research to support his position. Why I am not surprised.

Mr. Boortz need only have a cursory view of the depiction of black women in American history to know what he says is untrue. They have depicted negatively. Remember the refusal to allow Marian Anderson to sing at the Constitution Hall simply because she was black. 

When you say Georgie Soros is a progressive philanthropist does progressive mean communist?

When you repeat conservative talking points does conservative mean MORON?

Progressive means one who makes forward thinking decisions informed by the accumulated wisdom of our forefathers.

Progressives are liberty loving liberals like the ones who founded our country and enshrined our freedoms in the Constitution. Progressives are the patriotic principled dissenters who work to form a more perfect union. Progressives believe in the rule of law and that nobody is above the law. Progressives realize our long-term security is threatened by climate destabilization and pollution, by our dependence on foreign energy, by the growing gap between rich and poor, by our faltering public education system and by the deterioration of our international reputation.

That about sums it up.

Roundhouse,

That was nice. I only fell asleep twice while reading it.

JUST KIDDING! ;-)

Anyway I'm not ready to convert as I, and many Conservatives I know are just as upstanding as you define Progressives to be.

Oh, I know of a few fine conservatives too.

I just get tired of the insults, they become as boring as agreement on every issue. We can respond forcefully to provocation without resorting to personal attacks. I understand the impetus to engage in the flamethrowing; some folks simply won't hear a reasoned response and merit very little effort. But I'm not a lefty because we have better insults.

So, as often as I can manage on this site I work to avoid personal attacks and offer something born of positive thought. More than I care to admit I post out of anger or pettiness to trolls, such is human frailty.

And you do a very good job. Personally I am a liberal because we have better insults

I think Soros donated to Media Matters in rubles, that way it doesn't really count as directly receiving a donation.  I think you are on to something.

Boortz's show doesn't engage in name calling?  Funny, seems like I've been hearing from his show for a while.

I have to admit, O'Reilly uses the same line but he name calls also. So does Media Matters (calls every conservative a racist) so it just must go with the territory.

Nah, just the ones who make racist and highly bigotted statements on their TV shows, radio shows, and internet columns. You do remember the whole mission statement of this site right? Oh, never mind. Pointing out facts to some folks who blatantly avoid to engage in them never really helps anyway, because the sky it their world is nicely rose colored.

I thought the mission was to point out conservative information our alleged controversial remarks of conservatives, but then they targeted Don Imus. So I assume the site has changed to Smear the Racist of the Day.org.

So you think that calling a bunch of basketball players NHHs was an accurate statement and not misinformative?

...NO ANSWER. There was a recent poster, one of the newbies trying to defend Imus' statement by saying well the girls did wear jackets at their press conference and it was probably to cover up their tatoos and he had heard that one of the girls had been in a gang fight. Lord knows what inuendo and lies that are being spread in the wing nut world.

I remember listening to Boortz' show a couple of years ago (I listened every lunch at my last job), and hearing him criticize Nancy Pelosi.  For five minutes, he ranted about Pelosi, and the only criticisms of her that he could come up with were (1) she's a Liberal, and (2) she's not attractive enough for him to sleep with.

I often wonder how Royal and Brenda (or is it Debra?  I can't remember her name) can sit through some of his stuff.  It's obvious that Royal often disagrees with Boortz, and Boortz takes every available opportunity to point out how stupid Brenda is.  Ick.

Oops.  That would be "Belinda."

 Actually, NOT EVERY Conservative. ONLY the documented ones. Which are the most nationally known. Get your facts straight.

WHAT? And ruin his perfect record?

Exactly Solon :)

Cynthia McKinney IS ghetto.  She was the most racist and uncivilized member of the U.S. House that Congress has ever seen.  I remember after Hurricane Katrina, McKinney expressed concern for "her people" - i.e. black people.

Maybe had she not changed her hair style the day of her confrontation with the security guard, the confrontation would not have occurred.

The day McKinney was defeated in the Democratic primary was one of the happiest days of my life.  Hope she didn't let the door hit her on the way out. I say good riddance, she's not missed.

Phoenix

What is with you guys and Black women's hair? And calling people Ghetto is a ignorant and childish thing to do, and especially so if one wants to be taken seriously as a political commentator. Cynthia McKinney wore her hair in a natural do and that was her choice to do so and I thought it was very becoming. I thought Ms. Mckinnely over reacted as well but enough with the damn hair already.

Cynthia McKinney IS ghetto.  She was the most racist and uncivilized member of the U.S. House that Congress has ever seen. 

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Cynthia Mc Kinney isn't ghetto jerk. The most racist and uncivilizaed member of Congress? That would be the white racist pig Strom Thurmond.

Let's not forget that Boortz is a Confirmed,and Certified liar! And a Card Carrying Chickenhawk to boot! He talks a bad game, but when push comes to shove ,he crawls up in the fetus position,whimpering and whining like a snot-nosed two year old! Take his mike away,and he'd be left selling fake watches and body oils at Five Points before a Braves Game! 

At one time he was a Real Estate Attorney in Atlanta.While hustling shoe shines at the Trailways Bus Depot, he found on the backcover of a Matchbook a Night Law School and for four years he went to night school. Got a Law License,(that was only good in Georgia) and became a closing attorney for real estate deals. Anyone with a Jr. High Degree can be a Closing Attorney. It takes no real intelligence to look over a few papers and affix your John Henry to it. Rumour has it, the Title Companies spent a lot of  time correcting his errors,and were glad to see Boortz give up Real Estate Law.

From the late 60's till Sept '05 he claimed he had graduated from Texas A&M,but a phone call to the Univ. found out he flunked,quit or just walked away ,never graduating. That never stopped him from claiming on various Radio,TV Web Sites that he had in fact graduated,but now it's "I finished up at Texas A&M in '67", or he doesn't even mention it,period

His biggest lie to the public was that he was 4-F during the Viet-Nam War,had bad eyes/and Asthma,couldn't serve,but really wanted too.  A FOIA to Selective Service destroyed that BS story in Sept '05. For four and half years he used his deferment from the draft to stay out of the service.But after his third semester, he dropped out of the Corps of Cadets and never notifying the Draft Board and used it till Feb'68 when all of a sudden he remembered his civic duty and notified the Board he had a child,which permanently saved him from Nam. He had dropped completely out of school in June of "67,but used his deferment anyway. Kinda like Cheney,Boortz pulled a Cheney!

That's the type of person Boortz is, all Red,White and Blue while the music is playing,but nowhere to be found when the music stops!

Boortz reminds me of a weatherbeaten old albino sea turtle.

Media Matters CEO and President David Brock said African-American attorney Anita Hill was "a little bit nutty, a little bit sl*tty." MMFA should fire him immediately.

And when did MMFA take Rosie O'Donnell to take for her imitation of Chinese on "The View"?

Neal Boortz could care less about Black women, and Black women could care less about Neal Boortz. We also could care less about Boortz's low-rated radio talk show.

Ask people in the streets about Neal Boortz and they will say, "Neil who?"