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CNN's Dobbs falsely claimed Pelosi could use Hastert's jet to fly nonstop to California
Summary: In a report on the use of a military plane to fly the House speaker, CNN's Lou Dobbs falsely claimed that Nancy Pelosi can travel nonstop from Washington to California, where her home district is located, "in the plane that [Dennis] Hastert was using." In fact, according to reports, the jet Hastert used did not have the fuel capacity to make nonstop, cross-country trips.
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Posted by therick
Dobbs is so near sighted, while he thinks he's stating something intelligent. If he were really upset with the use of our tax dollars, why not complain about Hasterts plane in the first place.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 4:45:25 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by draftedin68
As even a casual viewer can attest, Lou is enamoured with all forms of the word fact.
Now that we know the facts, I wonder when he'll alter his tirade?
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 4:52:08 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by Dem02020
I see in the screenshot that accompanies the item a capture that has Mr. Murtha behind Ms. Pelosi...
If a snapshot can show such things, then I think that capture shows Mr. Murtha protective and supportive of Ms. Pelosi... (I know it is so, but only imaginatively... and only in that pic... but pictures work that way sometimes, and Mr. Murtha seems that type, always)...
I don't concern myself much about the attacks on Ms. Pelosi... she has a faithful guard.
This whole thing about Iraq (the main thing of the American People's business), it now moves to the House...
I had been not happy that the most Faithful was not made Majority Leader...
So what.
We walk always the hazard and danger position... we walk always point (let the others cower... they'll find their nerve, later, and in safety).
We're going Home, to the House... the Speaker has a U.S. Marine on point, and in command, of the Committee...
She has a good guard... we have a good guard.
I like the picture of Mr. Murtha behind Ms. Pelosi.
Semper Fidelis makes me feel good.
Think you'll draw funds from the U.S. Treasury, in the name of sacrificed Marines?
Think again.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 5:02:03 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog
And another lie is born. This reminds me of the $200 hair cut story about Clinton, which had him holding up airport traffic while he got his hair cut. While it's true he got a haircut, the only plane he held up was the White House press corps plane.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 5:12:29 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by lemoc in reply to nerzog
Willie got a trim every chance he had, and a lot of them were sub-par.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 8:14:55 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg
I used to think Dobbs was a smart finantial guy. then he started drink White House juice and lost his credibility ( with me, anyways ). His constant hammering of the immigration problems is very tiring, specially when he himself offers no solutions.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 5:25:18 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by col.roycampbell
*WHO CARES! LET HER USE THE JET*
She is going to be the best speaker yet.
Plus there is no such thing as man-made global warming.
We had global cooling from 1940-1970 and everyone was going crazy, now we are on a warming cycle. See:
[link to www.canadafreepress.com] for reference
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 5:25:56 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by Easy to refute wingnuts in reply to col.roycampbell
Do you ever tire of displaying nothing but abject ignorance?
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 5:49:46 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by col.roycampbell in reply to Easy to refute wingnuts
did you even read the article?
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 6:09:48 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by valentinian in reply to col.roycampbell
So hundreds of scientists and academics publish the results of decades of research and it rolls right off your back, but one Canadian with questionable credentials is enough to convince you there is no man-made global warming?
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 6:38:41 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by scooter in reply to col.roycampbell
I read it, and I also read about Ball. He is paid by the gas & oil industry, and is considered an embarrassment by the professional community as mentioned by my cousin (double-doctorate, tropical rain forest research, full professor, yadda.) He and his colleagues are not paid by any environmental groups. His grants do not come from enviro groups with an agenda.
Dr. Ball's work is a direct result of his earnings from big oil. Maybe you would want to look that up. Maybe he was one of the many scientists offered $10,000 by big oil to refute the consensus findings on global warming (how cheap.) Maybe he truly believes what he writes, but you have to understand that he is not well respected by his peers.
I recently had a discussion with a wealthy man who argued that man-made global warming was a myth. He said "look at all of the so-called scientists who were wrong throughout history." I said "look at all of the scientists who were correct, and were persecuted by the religious governments. -- BTW, this guy used to work for ExxonMobil. Go figure... try arguing with a neocon indoctrinated into the largest profit business in the world.
This guy also claimed that if he sold his SUV for a smaller car it wouldn't help anyway. I told him not to vote since it would not matter anyway. My point was lost on this idiot.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 8:04:14 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by col.roycampbell in reply to scooter
you make good points except for the last one. his point about one person not making a difference by not owning an suv is a good one. we learned about this in basic econ, you need government intervention in order to force EVERYONE to drive enviro-friendly vehicles. even if all of san fran stopped polluting it won't make a difference in the big picture unless everyone is forced to stop. but that wont happen as long as you have big oil keeping the electric car down and the govt in their pockets.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 8:34:38 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by valentinian in reply to col.roycampbell
You are a really odd egg...
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 8:43:10 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by col.roycampbell in reply to valentinian
whys that
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 9:23:06 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by HuntingtonBeachLefty in reply to col.roycampbell
But Col Roy- if one person can't make a difference, but everybody can..
Then if everybody except one person id doing something, then that person does it, resulting in everybody doing it, hasn't one person made a difference?
Reading suggestion: Horton Hears a Who
Posted Wednesday February 7, 2007 1:13:44 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by wesley
If security is a real concern...then I don't have a problem with our top leaders flying in military aircraft.
I do have a problem if Hastert was flying home "nearly every weekend" while congress was in session...his job is in DC...and there is no excuse for excessive trips home on the weekends at our expense.
On Pelosi...if she needs a plane for security reasons...give her one. However, I don't know what type of military aircraft are available...but there are many mid-sized jets...capable of hauling 8-12 passengers...with the fuel capacity and range to fly coast to coast.
Posted Tuesday February 6, 2007 9:59:01 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by monkeyboyiv in reply to wesley
Considering that Congress only met for about what? 80 to 90 days all of last year, at least he wasn't going home all the time. What I find interesting about all this is that no one brings up that it was the Sergeant at Arms who made the initial inquiry when he learned that Pelosi's jet was having to refuel multiple times while leap-frogging across the country. When it was then decided that Hasert's jet (it had to have be a C-130 to accomodate him, haha) wasn't up to par for a cross-country trip, a larger jet was considered. Then... Pelosi's staff got involved and made inquiries to see if other people can use the jet. Pelosi and her staff thought it would be a waste of tax-payers money to have a large jet ferry only her and a couple of staffers to and from the west coast.It's making a mountain out of a pit.
Posted Wednesday February 7, 2007 8:39:07 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by joseph_chapman
Dulles [IAD] to SFO is about 2400 miles.
Most commercial regional jets -- and I've flown on my share, and they are 'toy planes' and pretty much suck for anything over an hour -- only have a range of about 1800 miles.
Lease a Cessna Citation X (or buy one for $15-20 million) instead. They are fast, economical and have low maintainence costs. It can easily get about 10 people, coast to coast, at Mach 0.82 -- which is fast.
Posted Wednesday February 7, 2007 1:28:52 AM EST / Flag this comment