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Gender stereotypes and discussions of Armani suits dominate media's coverage of Speaker-elect Pelosi
Summary: Since the Democratic Party won control of both the House and the Senate, the media have focused on such issues as Pelosi's choice of attire and whether being female will affect her ability to lead. MSNBC anchor Contessa Brewer wondered if Pelosi's "personal feelings [were] getting in the way of effective leadership" -- a problem she suggested would not surface in "men-run leadership posts" -- and whether men were "more capable of taking personality clashes."
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Posted by greekfurnace
Typical deflection...
I agree with MMFA here. I'm having a very tough time finding any good information, not just of Pelosi, but of the other soon-to-be coronated Majority congressional leaders. Instead, we have a lot of babbling about all this petty nonsense that has NOTHING to do with politics or you or me.
Perhaps these so-called 'pundits' have way too much time on their shows to fill? Maybe they just think you and I are so painfully stupid, we just couldn't possibly understand all the subtle intricacy of modern gov't?
Either way, it's insulting to say the least...
Posted Monday November 20, 2006 8:23:37 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by redking75687 in reply to greekfurnace
Here's all you need to know
Pelosi refuses to allow Bush to be taken to trial and Hoyher, the new majority leader, supports keeping US troops in Iraq.
That pretty much tells us what side of the fence they are on. One refuses to put war criminals on trial, the other wants to help them commit those war crimes.
Posted Monday November 20, 2006 10:02:07 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by nerzog
This is the new Republican paradigm...
Pelosi is going to get the Hillary treatment. She'll be painted as a dragon lady...a limousine liberal with no morals. Never mind what the truth is, this propaganda is what will serve Karl Rove and his flying monkeys best for the 2008 election. Never mind that their president has FUBARed the Middle East...Nancy Pelosi is the Secular Progressive Pro Choice Gay Rights Tax Increasing Anti Christ...and she must be destroyed!
Posted Monday November 20, 2006 9:10:22 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by tommy in reply to nerzog
Nerzog
I think Karl Rove's influence and stature within the bowels of running a successful campaign with his tactics are finished. He totally screwed up this election, his party lost both Houses and his effectiveness and wisdom have fallen out of favor, I would suspect.
In 2008, there will be a new "Rove" perhaps, but the current one is toast, in my opinion.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 1:47:45 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg
Nancy Pelosi will be a fine leader.............
Nov 7, 2006 was a very loud and decisive. The majority has spoken and the minority has complained.
Posted Monday November 20, 2006 10:30:33 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by carlileb5935
Men hate Women
And so, obviously, do the women that men hire, like the giggly, flirtatious Maureen Dowd.
On TV, she always reminds me of the kind of "gal" that the guys can fall all over in front of and not feel any threat of possible ridicule.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 12:42:52 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to carlileb5935
Yeah, she really turns on the flirtations.......
Mr Mathews has no idea what to do with her. She kills him with body language.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 2:46:20 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by MickD in reply to wolf kotenberg
Dowd Surprises Me
She's sort of a post modern humanist who has spoken out several times about the good ol' boys in BushieCo. All women who jump on the "bash Pelosi" bandwagon should be ashamed of themselves. They are offering to Americans that women should remain on the second tier of political power. In essence, again, they are doing a disservice to themselves.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 9:12:30 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by evillib1727 in reply to MickD
All women who jump on the "bash Pelosi"
Sorry you feel this way.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 1:59:29 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by Jericho
Not even in office but she's made her first mistake?
How can you err if you're not doing anything? I'll tell you how, you just invite a republican to talk about a democrat. How can you do the right thing even though you erred while on the job? I'll tell you how, you just invite a republican to talk about a republican.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 5:40:45 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by tex
At least in SPORTS ...
You have the play-by-play guy, the stats guy, and then the "color" guy.
One tells you the FACTS about what is going on, no nonsense and to the POINT. The next tells you the historic context, again with FACTS and pertinent comparisons; he keeps the RECORD flowing. Then you have the "color" guy, who gets into the personal anecdotes, the personalities, what somebody is wearing, how they LOOK.
In today's political MEDIA, there are NOTHING but "color" guys. The FACTS and the RECORD have been dispensed with, and all the public hears are the emotional and superficial "opinions" about the stuff that makes no difference to anybody.
It's backwards. In the gist of things, SPORTS doesn't matter, and POLITICS matters greatly (to our real lives). Yet, SPORTS takes a balanced approach to its reporting, while POLITICS has become tabloid-only.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 7:37:32 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by MickD in reply to tex
Facts...
...are useless and boring to Chris M. It counters his cutesy poo admirations of "real men" like GWB and Sellout McCain.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 9:13:57 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by batbird
crushing defeat?
Reading this is reassuring in a sarcastic kind of way. I’m tickled that the dim-witted talking heads are keeping up with Pelosi’s clothes and calling it news. It’s pointless and it tells me they’ve run dry.
It’s almost as funny as listening to Bush talk about what the terrorists think, when he has such a hard time with that. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! It makes you want to do a double-take.
Joseph Watkins said Nancy Pelosi suffered a “crushing defeat” by publicly backing Murtha for majority leader, but he’s just repeating what he’s heard others say. The truth is what happened between Murtha and Hoyer was the Democratic process in action – something we haven’t seen in six years of power crazed Republican rule. The Republicans scoff because the Democrats didn’t carry the water for a candidate they didn’t believe or trust just to get a landslide victory as they would have done. That’s the difference between us and them, closed versus open debate.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 10:33:38 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by wolf kotenberg in reply to batbird
I tell you suffered " crushing defeat " and that is............
Denny Hastert and his cohorts.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 11:16:12 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by Sagra
Well, Republican men seem perfectly capable of saying
"In order for me to get ... from point A to point $$$$$$$, I've got to set aside my personal feelings towards this guy who forces women to have abortions."
So I guess Brewer has a point.
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 11:35:29 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by conleytgwinn
Rejoice, Nancy, Rejoice!
For thou art truly the object of Repugnant fear and hatred! Couldst thou aspire to greater glory before even holding the jawbone - er, gavel - with which thou shalt smite them?
Posted Tuesday November 21, 2006 11:38:24 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by barattabooklady7417
Nancy gets the Hillary treatment
Back in 1993-94, when Hillary led Bill's health care reform task force, all of the media coverage centered on the fact that she was a woman and the First Lady. They reported what she wore and whether her presentation was shrill. Nowhere in the coverage was any of the substance of her proposal. Nancy Pelosi hasn't been installed as Speaker yet but the same cattiness has begun. Female commentators are harder on her than men. When was the last time anyone commented on Dennis Hastert's Armani suit?
Posted Wednesday November 22, 2006 3:45:13 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by ufleirx
Where are the complaints
about Rice's shoe shopping while the Gulf Coast was crushed by Katrina everytime I hear her mentioned as an "interesting Presidential candidate". I would find her the most uninteresting candidate ever with her record starting with 9-11.
Posted Wednesday November 22, 2006 9:20:03 AM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by billyjr19847917
Fact is, we have an irresponsible media in this country
The comments about Mrs. Pelosi reflect how lazy the media are. Many of them don't want to probe the issues (i.e., what is on the Democratic agenda now that they've been elected.) They want to focus on the superficial.
I do have two points of contention with Media Matters, though:
-I think Contessa Brewer's question " do you see that there is a difference between the men-run leadership posts?" is legitimate. Sadly, many men are too pig headed to take orders from a woman. Brewer's question wasn't an indictment on Pelosi, it was a question of whether we've come far enough as a society that men can now follow a female leader.
-If Maureen Dowd is a sexist, she's an equal opportunity sexist. In her Nov. 11 column, Dowd wrote "A recent study found that the testosterone of American men has been dropping for 20 years, but in Republican Washington, it was running amok, and not in a good way."
She also wrote that Barack Obama has risen to prominence in part because "he languidly poses in fashion magazines, shares feelings with Oprah and dishes with the ladies on 'The View,'" a stark contrast to the "macho men" who lead the Republican Congress and White House.
Gender critiques (often stereotypical in nature) have always been part of the Dowd play book.
Posted Wednesday November 22, 2006 12:15:29 PM EST / Flag this comment
Posted by zappatero
Always liked Giorgio Armani
after DeLay and Hastert's mail order suits from Sears, Armani is great to see.
Posted Wednesday November 22, 2006 3:09:58 PM EST / Flag this comment